The data was released two years ago at Winthrope Unv. As far as vender. I got seeds from the one that is on thp and was 0 for 10 and the seeds I got from Ed were at a 90% germ rate. I think Ed has cut ties with that vender. Well going to stick to talking about data and new info on the variety. I understand and see your point Smokemaster just don't want this thread to turn out like the others. I think most of us agree about the one vender on here, I do.