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Recognizing The Right Of Plants To Evolve

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I found this weird story on G+ this morning. Discuss or mock at your discretion.



Recognizing The Right Of Plants To Evolve



by LINTON WEEKS

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According to recent reports from a research team led by Australian biologist Monica Gagliano, some plants such as chili peppers may be able to "hear" other plants.
October 26, 2012

If proposals calling for rights for animals are on the table, why not rights for other living things? Plants, for instance. After all, plants can sometimes exhibit humanlike behavior. And we're not just talking about the butterwort-flytrap hybrid in The Little Shop of Horrors. Some plants respond well to music. Some "smell" other plants. Still others seem to shrink away when touched.


"And, according to recent reports from a research team led by Australian biologist Monica Gagliano, some plants (such as chili peppers) may be able to "hear" other plants (such as sweet fennel). "We know that plants recognize what is growing next to them," Gagliano says in the University of Western Australia's University News. "There is chemical communication between them. Plants can warn other plants of a predator by releasing a chemical, and the warned plants can release chemicals to make themselves unpalatable to the predator."





The Future Of Nonhuman Rights, Part 2



In 2013, the Pennsylvania-based Nonhuman Rights Project, led by attorney Steven Wise, plans to file a series of lawsuits in hopes that one high court in one American state will finally recognize that a nonhuman plaintiff can be a legal "person" in the eyes of the law.
If Wise and his group are successful, they will break new ground by securing humanlike rights for nonhumans. The result could open all kinds of possibilities for the rights of other nonhuman entities.
Advocates for plant rights and robot rights are already planning for the future. If they eventually succeed, it could bring sweeping changes to the way we live. This three-part series on the Future of Nonhuman Rights explores the people and ideas that may bring radical change to legal systems — and societies — around the world.
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Interesting but I'm not understanding how the title fits the story. Exactly how are we infringing on a plants right to evolve?
 
it's discussed later on in the piece:

The Right To Evolve
The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund argues that greenery does have interests — and rights. The Pennsylvania-based nonprofit works with communities around the world to "craft and adopt new laws that change the status of natural communities and ecosystems from being regarded as property under the law to being recognized as rights-bearing entities."
Establishing a legal system in which natural communities and ecosystems have an inalienable right to exist and flourish, says Mari Margil of CELDF, "places the highest societal value on those natural systems and communities."
Under such a rights-based system of law, Margil says, "a river may be recognized as having the right to flow, fish and other species in a river may be recognized as having the right to exist and evolve, and the flora and fauna that depend on a river may be recognized as having the right to thrive. This legal framework seeks to protect the natural ecological balance of that habitat."
In the past few years there has been a flurry of international interest in a plant rights movement.The New York Times reported in 2008 that Ecuador became the first country to provide constitutional rights to plants, granting nature "the right to the maintenance and regeneration of its vital cycles, structure, functions and evolutionary processes." That same year, a Swiss ethics panel advocated protecting plants' "reproductive ability."
Speaking recently in Hawaii, the Dalai Lama said that every living thing, including a tree or a plant, has the right to survive.
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Interesting post. This is one hell of a good discussion for a philosophy class in college :)
 
Meh, I like doing to my plants what I want, (cue evil genius laughter).

On a lighter note, some of the coolest crosses are accidents that no one knows the lineage to, I guess that is evolution.
 
yeah, I'm not down with this. I'm all for the opression of plants. Personally I deny mine food and water and mock them as they wither and die.

somehow I never get good yield, but that's gotta be coincedence, right? :rofl:
 
Stefan_W said:
I always allow my peppers to evolve. Just this past season they evolved from my house, to my garden, to my blender, and then to my nachoes.
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Agreed, Soon I will be accused of plant abuse for doing my job.
Lucky Dog Hot Sauce said:
yeah, I'm not down with this. I'm all for the opression of plants. Personally I deny mine food and water and mock them as they wither and die.

somehow I never get good yield, but that's gotta be coincedence, right? :rofl:
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I'll defer to Mother Nature on this question. She's the boss after all.

millworkman said:
Meh, I like doing to my plants what I want, (cue evil genius laughter).

On a lighter note, some of the coolest crosses are accidents that no one knows the lineage to, I guess that is evolution.
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Please elucidate on exactly what you are doing to your plants, sir. The Plant Police[background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]™ [/background]want to know.
 
thegreenman said:
Please elucidate on exactly what you are doing to your plants, sir. The Plant Police[background=rgb(249, 249, 249)]™ [/background]want to know.
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Things only fit to show in two three places... Cinemax after 2 AM, the Discovery Channel, and most every anthropolgy paper dealing with sexuality... :dance: :party: :shh:
 
no no---it is an accident; not a event or a orchestrated showing----It Is An Accident.

Like stepping on a ant while walking to classes or driving over a bicker while your texting on the cell phone----Accident.....The Buddhists see no difference in either of them; they just call in Karma; for both.
Otherwise called accident.

I love accidents and I love OP seeds cause you never know what you will get---it is my Karma class in pepper raising----no antho class here nor biology; only education in karma.

Peace and peppers evolve.

Back to the point of this thread before I get slapped up about hijacking the focus of this;

The Rights of Plants---(and animals and fish and water and organisms) are just another left wing attempt to dictate right and wrong as the green tree huggers see it. (Excluding You Of course)

First they want to protect the poor kids that work in sweat shops and then they want to save the whales and want everyone to get paid more then they are worth and then they want to give everybody food and now they want have the US to be self sufficient in oil so we can cook ourselves and everything else in a CO2 soup of evolutionary man made world wide destruction. Not that I mind but you know? That is also evolution. The plants will be here long after we are gone.

So they don't need any help.

I think.
 
ajijoe said:
if the dali lama wants to revere all life he can stop eating and see where that gets him, but as for me no way brother give me my steak and potatoes!! :rolleyes:
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Point of order... if the Dalai Lama doesn't eat steak, doesn't that mean proportionally (albeit however miniscule), that there will be more steak for you? :)
 
I think this comes down to humanity and morels. We don't need human laws governing ever aspect of this planet. It's not ours. (Yes, I understand we are the dominant species of this planet) As a society we should respect all living things. The only thing a plant cares about is reproduction and survival...it is the basis of all living things. They are not trying to have fun in the sun or figure out a way to make themselves pretty. So like is said in the article "humans don't have the right to destroy an ecosystem" I will agree but this should be common sense. Some people don't see the big picture, others don't care and everyone in their own way makes an impact on this planet, whether it be good or bad. We need more common sense, more desire to protect the planet for future generations and an overall respect for all life...human or sentient beings. One thing I can say is that when I was younger, I would rip branches off of trees for no reason, just to break them. I'd pull their leaves off for god knows why...Maybe just because I could lol but after growing my own flowers, vegetables, peppers, etc. I've gained a lot of respect for plants and their well being. I don't just destroy them for no reason anymore. I think if anything people would have a lot more respect for plants and care for them better, if we didn't live in a society were couldn't just go to the store and buy as much as we want and if it goes bad, megh, who cares? I'll just go to the store and get some more tomorrow, having no concern of which the manner they were grown or got there...one day it won't be that easy and we will have to fight to keep our agricultural way of life alive. Ok enough ranting. So my official stance is....people, take care of the planet and everything in it and it will take care of you.
 
Balac said:
The Rights of Plants---(and animals and fish and water and organisms) are just another left wing attempt to dictate right and wrong as the green tree huggers see it. (Excluding You Of course)
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Thanks! For the record, I agree with you. There are a lot of misguided folks in the enviro-eco movement, (just like on the other end of the spectrum). Intelligent use and management of natural resources should be common sense for everyone and not a political issue wrapped up in wacky ideas like plant rights.

The New York Times reported in 2008 that Ecuador became the first country to provide constitutional rights to plants, granting nature "the right to the maintenance and regeneration of its vital cycles, structure, functions and evolutionary processes." That same year, a Swiss ethics panel advocated protecting plants' "reproductive ability."
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I figure that these little bits of legal chicanery are ways to do an end-run around Monsanto's Terminator gene and other "patented, propagation prohibited plants."

If plants have a the "right to procreate" than Monsanto can't sue farmers for collecting and growing seeds on their gm crops.
 
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