I saved seeds from a Chocolate Hab grown next to some fatalis by a friend last year, and it turns out all the pods coming onto the plants I'd thought would be chocolate hab are growing wrinkly, pointy, and elongated! So obviously they got in bed with each other!
Here's a pic of a developing fruit. The ones that have become nearly full size now look like slightly flattened versions of my fatali pods... I'll try to get a pic of these same pods full size now....
Then I stumble upon this bit of info on crosses this morning at work....The below was quoted from another forum on shamanic botanicals. Gotta love google.
"And heres just a few notes on the genetics:
Pepper orientation: Pendant- Dominant Upright- Recessive .. Mendelian
Fruit:
Yellow is fully recessive to red
Gold color is recessive to red
orange is recessive to orange-yellow
two independent, fully-recessive genes are necessary to achieve a green when ripe coloration in peppers. One is the cl gene, which retains chlorophyll ("prevents the complete degradation of chlorophyll") and the other is the y gene (y+="red pigment lycopene", y=yellow or orange).
Here's the down and dirty of the 4 combinations of these genes and their phenotypes (what you see):
Red mature fruit: y+/y+, cl+/cl+
Yellow mature fruit: y/y, cl+/cl+
Brown mature fruit: y+/y+, cl/cl
Green mature fruit: y/y, cl/cl
I understand Mendelian genetics well as I was a Bio. major in college, so I understand that this could be simplified and that more than two alleles might code for mature fruit color. However, if the alleles listed above are correct, than my cross should end up being a red pod?!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. Red is dominant over yellow, so y+ will come from the chocolate parent, y from the fatali expressing red color. The cl+ allele would come from the fatali, and cl allele from chocolate hab should combine to mean the chlorophyll degrades, leaving me with red pods!
Anyone know whether the above info on dominance is correct or not? If it is, This could make for an interesting red fatali-ish pod. The pods coming on to the pod look really cool, and are bumpy like a Fatalii, but seem even larger than the ones on my fatalii plants.
Here's a pic of a developing fruit. The ones that have become nearly full size now look like slightly flattened versions of my fatali pods... I'll try to get a pic of these same pods full size now....
Then I stumble upon this bit of info on crosses this morning at work....The below was quoted from another forum on shamanic botanicals. Gotta love google.
"And heres just a few notes on the genetics:
Pepper orientation: Pendant- Dominant Upright- Recessive .. Mendelian
Fruit:
Yellow is fully recessive to red
Gold color is recessive to red
orange is recessive to orange-yellow
two independent, fully-recessive genes are necessary to achieve a green when ripe coloration in peppers. One is the cl gene, which retains chlorophyll ("prevents the complete degradation of chlorophyll") and the other is the y gene (y+="red pigment lycopene", y=yellow or orange).
Here's the down and dirty of the 4 combinations of these genes and their phenotypes (what you see):
Red mature fruit: y+/y+, cl+/cl+
Yellow mature fruit: y/y, cl+/cl+
Brown mature fruit: y+/y+, cl/cl
Green mature fruit: y/y, cl/cl
I understand Mendelian genetics well as I was a Bio. major in college, so I understand that this could be simplified and that more than two alleles might code for mature fruit color. However, if the alleles listed above are correct, than my cross should end up being a red pod?!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. Red is dominant over yellow, so y+ will come from the chocolate parent, y from the fatali expressing red color. The cl+ allele would come from the fatali, and cl allele from chocolate hab should combine to mean the chlorophyll degrades, leaving me with red pods!
Anyone know whether the above info on dominance is correct or not? If it is, This could make for an interesting red fatali-ish pod. The pods coming on to the pod look really cool, and are bumpy like a Fatalii, but seem even larger than the ones on my fatalii plants.
Because red is dominant a plant with red pods can also carry the genes for yellow and/or for retaining chlorophyll so it would be possible to get plants with brown or green mature fruit even if both parents are red if they both carry the recessive trait(s).
