video Superhots Grafted Together! Success ** VIDEO ADDED IN UPDATED POST!**

[Doomsdaykillz]

cool.. All in one shot sounds a bit rough on the plant unless you are just grafting bracnehs onto a well established stock trunk. It wouldnt work for the method im using to get the trunk in layers because there would need to be a nutrient and water flow through ALL of the grafts to work on the higher up ones. But individual branches should..


why did you do the grafts? Any reason?

Also, did you do anything to ensure that it would be a mentor graft with the genetics passing through rather than just growing both varieites? You did it when they were very young?

 

[jsschrstrcks]

The host has to be 1-3 months old, the scion has to be younger than a few weeks... I don't remember precisely.... I didn't infect them with a virus if thats what you mean (infected plants more freely allow genes to transfer).

I did the grafts to try to make a graft hybrid.

It will be VERY rough. The 8 seedlings will be grafted together. I will need to be VERY precise, and keep things VERY clean. Some of them will likely die. I will try to do the whole thing on video... But no promises... I'm hoping because of the age of the 8 seedlings, and their relative size, the genetic material will pass more freely, and that the wounds will heal faster...

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

 

[Wulf]

It will be VERY rough. The 8 seedlings will be grafted together.

If successfully, I believe you're legally required to have a tesla coil arcing in the background while you adjust your goggles and yell "IT'S ALIVE!"

Good luck with it. I doubt I'll be grafting any time soon, but the concept intrigues me.

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

OK so I let my curiosity and impatience get the better of me and unwrapped the more advanced of the two. It looks amazing!!! I took off the bag with holes in it and replaced it with a new un-modified bag for increased humidity along with a cup of room temp water to get the humidity up fast. I want the air to be very humid so the wound can finish its healing, but now that it is expoed, I can monior it daily with pics!! the plant looks great. For today, I am watching very carefully to see if there is any wilt in the upper leaves which could be a result of loss of moisture through any open wounded areas if there are any. If needed, I will re-wrap it again but I don't think ill have to. It looks great and both of the varieties are showing rapid growth.

 

[queequeg152]

looks good, the rootstock growth looks like it could use some sun tho... its so pail. are you planning on having the scion as the only growth ultimately?

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

looks good, the rootstock growth looks like it could use some sun tho... its so pail. are you planning on having the scion as the only growth ultimately?

Thanks. Ya the rootstock growth is a bit pale, but I cant give it anything more than indirect window light for a couple weeks till the graft is completely sealed or it might ruin it. in probably 1-2 weeks itll go in my basement on my light rack. Then it should color up nicely.

And no, the main goal is to have both varieties actually. I didnt do it to switch varieites for root change, I want both peppers on the plant. It is a yellow 7 on the bottom and douglah on top and the other one that is still wrapped is the opposite.

 

[queequeg152]

since the rootstock is basically still growing, id bet that makes it much easier to get a successful graft.

the question is tho, does having vigorous growth from the rootstock help heal the union faster? if so, id invest some time in getting healthier growth from the rootstock. im thinking... a 32w cfl and one of those small reptile reflectors for a few hours a day at some point.

in my grafting trials i followed some guidelines from greenhouse people and had them in dark for 48 hours, then i had them exposed to windowsill light for progressively longer amounts of time and progressively opened the vents on the humidity dome for longer periods of time as the days ticked by.

im guessing yours is atlease ready for some intermitent more intense light? like 4 or 5 hours of cfl? idk, tho. can you see any callus forming at all yet?

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

MIne should get some light soon I think Im gonna give it a couple days like this to let the raft get used to the air now that it's unwrapped, and then Ill see how it does on my plant shelf with lights. And i would think that the growing rootstock would make the union seal faster but I know that when you cut plants up for tisue culture, the light can cause them to release chemicals called phenols which can end up leading to the death of the tissue so open wounds arent supposed to get much light. This one should be completely sealed this weke though and then jsut continue to thicken the callous I'm guessing at this point. And yes, there is callous. You see the stuff that looks liek glue holding the graft together? That's the callous growth. I didn't put anthing there.

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

That is very very cool. I will be the 1st to admit that I was wrong - a while back someone asked about this and I posted that I wasn't sure if soft tissue plants could be grafted. I'd never heard of it working before.

In school we grafted fruit trees in a similar manner, but there's cambium and protective bark and other factors going that made it seem more plausible.

so here it is - I'm 100% completely wrong about this. Amazing and very very cool!

I wonder if, like roses or fruit trees, that the plants inherit any benefits from the root stock? e.g. you graft varietal roses onto a wild rose stem to get the disease, pest and temperature resistance that some of the varietals lack.

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

haha you live and learn huh? I just gave it a shot. Im gonna be working on a few grafting chimera projects all fall and winter. Might make some to sell if they get a good price since they are a lot of work and risk in losing the plants. But it's fun for me. I like having this one unwrapped now so i can see the changes everyday.

 

[queequeg152]

I wonder if, like roses or fruit trees, that the plants inherit any benefits from the root stock? e.g. you graft varietal roses onto a wild rose stem to get the disease, pest and temperature resistance that some of the varietals lack.

they 100% do, in fact thats why they graft toms and peppers in the first place. some areas have big problems with nematodes and bacterial diseases, rootstocks that are resistant to this are grafted to a tom that has desirable marketable characteristics but poor resistance to those diseases.

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

Looks good still today. No wilt.

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

So the plant I unwrapped yesterday looks great and in my opinion, is definately a success. The second one I just unwrapped and it looks a little bit behind, and had a tiny bit more wilt, but i think it should be ok since its been over a week and it still have leaves and some slow growth on the scion (added portion) so it should be connected.

I didn't shift thegraft at all in the unwrapping so there is no damage done to it. I just looks a bit less calloused and a little bit drier so I am going to replace the bag with a fresh one with no holes poked in it for today. I put the bag with holes on the other one today and it still looks awesome so it is on its way to being acclimated!

This is the one i just unwrapped front and back:

How does it look?
This was it the last time I unwrapped it for comparison. Looks a bit more hydrated, but I believe there has been some callous growth since then.

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

 

[geeme]

VERY very nice DK!

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

Ok so I unbagged the one that was more advanced (douglah scion yellow 7 rootstock) and the scion leaves wilted, so I put that one under my lights and rebagged with holes, and today I made a tear in the bag. It should be unbagged within a wek and a half.

This one picked up very quickly and is now unbagged as of a few hourts ago. It had no top on the bag yesterday and didn't wilt at all, so it should be just fine. It will go under lights tomorrow if it doesn't wilt at all.

BTW. The plant with the yellow 7 as the stock and the oduglah as the scion will be from now on known as Plant A and the other with the Douglah stock and yellow 7 scion will be Plant B.

This is plant B:

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6L6FAiOU20

 

[Doomsdaykillz]

OK so plant A lost its smaller leaves o the douglah scion but it has one decent sized leaf on each of the two branches an dit isnt wilted anymore so it should grow new leaves very soon. Plant B seems to be fully acclimated under thelights with no humidity bag, but I am going to keep it moist at all times and not let it dry for a long time so it doesnt ruin the graft union in case its not 100% healed yet..

 

[Ob1ofwis]

This is very cool.
Just to make sure I am getting this right, you are hoping/expecting to actually have 2 different peppers growing on a single plant.
This could be really cool at Christmas time to have red and green peppers...