Comptine said:
Thanks for the tips! It's a learning curve for me right now. I guess I did not make separate balls and let them rise separately. I just took it all out and divided it into 4 parts. That explains some of the funky shapes they seem to get (not round).
Of course it's a learning curve.
Pizza is nearly all about execution and good quality ingredients (even if you are creative, those are mandatory on pizza). Just to say, i still think that standard margherita is the best (the best food on the planet maybe), but has to be made properly.
For standard oven i've had good results with that recipe:
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/49935-begin-salsaladys-stuffed-pepper-throwdown/#entry1050035
(lol, in retrospective, that dough piece doensn't look that good )
Here a very detailed method (like 1st, just much more fine tuned):
https://translate.google.it/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flaconfraternitadellapizza.forumfree.it%2F%3Ft%3D69617704&edit-text=&act=url
Here is another recipe (you should have a kneader but i've used above method with good results)
https://translate.google.it/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpizza-agora.forumfree.it%2F%3Ft%3D67207019&edit-text=&act=url
(sorry for google translate, hope it's understandable).
This isn't the easiest method to make pizza, kneading itself is easy but the difficult part is to transfer dough on tray... It has lots of water and is soft and you can't use rolling pin (also if dough is too soft it's hell, if it's too elastic pizza can shrink a bit). I'm just bad at that, many times and i never do it properly.
About flour... You could try a full manitoba and 48 hours, it's just suitable for high hydro and long rising.
Those are just ideas but i think that are good ones since in general people like really a lot that pizza and i think i don't even do it properly.
FreeportBum said:
my dough gets better with a cold ferment for 48-72 hours and good for up to a week. I make the dough, weigh my balls, rub em down gently with oil and put into the icebox for at least 24 hours. then take em out about 2 hours before rolling.
I must experiment myself that. Friends at la confraternita della pizza (think as italian pizza making forum) sometimes are not convinced to surpass 24h with some medium/strong flours.
I've tried up to 72 hours and my memories tell me that it wasn't worse than 48.