Freekie said:
Smokemaster your posts are nigh-unreadable.
Also lumens isn't accurate, as lumens is only about how humans perceive the intensity of the light and not how plants, a 30000 lumen lightbulb is useless if it emits for example only green light.
And you can easily build your own great panel with Vero Bridgelux or Cree LED cobs.
I guessed right-you started spreading crap.From your 6th post or probably earlier.
You didn't read my post at all in the context I posted it in.
Amp. X voltage = Watts - as the vendors don't advertised it as.
THE WAY THE VENDORS SELL/AND missrepresent THEIR CRAP.
NM and WATTS used Means everything,if it is in the spectrum plants use.
Same NM as the human eye sees,by the way for the most part.
I don't understand the B.S. about Lux with LEDS.
They LEDS,CAN"T produce NM in more than a specific range per LED.
YES they are graded by NM and Lm-AT whatever they are SAID to be tested at.
As with everything for sale,if you can't dazzle them with brilliance,baffle them with B.S.
JUST a few LEDS out of a gazillion,as with almost ANY other product on the market are used as a data sheet.
VERY few Vendors say what percentage THEIR Leds put out of whatever NM they sell their LED as.
Vendors use the VOLTS X AMPS thing out of context to get Trolls like you Ammo for giving people crap about nothing.
See your PAR post.
Your post actually agrees with mine,pretty much,just different words posted to miss represent my wording.
Hope your ego got stroked.
Since LEDS are more accurate,depending on quality control/the maker,nm etc. varries.
Their LEDS are assembled at and what was actually tested.
SEE 1 Watt LEDS run at higher Watts to sell as 3 watt LEDS.
It's all over the net for years.
Backs up my like for ! watters.
Don't forget I can get more LM and NM from 1 watters cheaper.
Or could 5 years ago.
BUT Lumens is usually accurate as far as running them-the panels output in BOTH LM. and NM,IF they are actually run at the right voltage and amps.
Volts controls nm and watts controls lm for LEDS.
As others already posted,a lot of panels are under driven,don't put out the LM they advertise.Probably not the NM either.
Probably due to how long they want their product to last past warranty.Run them low for longer life,advertise max. Watts and voltage to say what their panel actually does.
If my post sucks as far as you are concerned,why didn't you give the posts about people finding out the 300 watt panels were USING less watts?
Ya couldn't be a Troll could you?One with no actual experience using or building an LED light source?
I'd never buy a commercial pannel.
I see people paying big bucks (though the price is dropping these days) rather than building my own-FOR PEPPERS.
But I assume you are an expert and my panels are just LUCKILY working for my grow for the last 5+ years.
My plants must be mutants and out of the ordinary I guess.
Until I was doing Chemo I accidently had 400 plants 2X a year growing for a few pods indoors for pure seeds then put out outside for harvest.
Of coarse you know better.
I only am able to grow about 100 plants 2X a season now.
Must be because my 1/2 to 1 watt 10mm and 1 watt stars don't work. LEDS don't work,Especially since I use ALL chinese LEDS.
