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Windchicken Grow 2012

Looks like I'm getting a late start again this year...Should be setting seeds to sprout in the next few days....Anyway, here's the order I made from Beth this morning. It's not really my complete grow list, because I'm planting lots of saved seeds (from my 2011 Grow and from trades with my THP friends) for the first time this year. Also, I don't know that I will plant everything from this order, but I am excited about some of the new varieties:

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Absent from the above list but going in the ground this year:
Trinidad Scorpion
Congo Trinidad
True Jamaican Scotch Bonnet
Thai Chile (Garden Bird Seed variety)
Nambe Pueblo
Birgit's Locoto

Several bird types from THP friends, including, but not limited to (because I can't remember them all right now):
Texas Chiltepin
Prik Ki Nue
Siling Labuyo
Cumari do Para

Edited 1/9/2012 to add the following:

Last minute order from Hippy, plus some other trades I had forgotten about:
Yellow 7 Pot
Douglah
Malagueta
Pusa Jwala
 
I used a electric coffee grinder, they are like leather yes but the grinder still cuts it due to the high speed. Only needed to press the button like milliseconds :) First ones came out like a sticky powder :lol:

Cool, thanks. I'll try that.

Dem tepins I just eat and spit . All da flavor ( which is the best) without the seeds sticking in your throat. Also great in mixed drinks:) Okay not really :rofl:

You could smash some up for a Bloody Mary...Oh hell yeah! I did some salsa like that and it was killah. I love dem Tepins!
 
I cut up a NagaBrain on some quesadillas last night and all I can say is HOLY MONKEYSH*T are they good!!! In my humble opinion, they got the flavor and aroma from the Brain Strain but the hard sting from the Naga. Very nice variety. Thank you for sharing big guy!!!
 
Cool video Gary! I just went through a half a can of Blue Diamond Jalapeno Almonds watching it. Man, I can't wait to start up the garden again.........video's are very inspiring, not the pepper eating ones............ha............the garden panorama's. Nice work
 
Gary, I hope to keep it simple next year as well. So far I am only planning on over wintering 5 - 10 plants and I'm not sure if I will germinate any new varieties. Love your video!

Good luck next season
Mike
 
Next year is going to be way simpler. The 2012 garden was too much...all-consuming OCD bondage. Way too stressful. Gardening is supposed to be fun!
Gary, I hope to keep it simple next year as well. So far I am only planning on over wintering 5 - 10 plants and I'm not sure if I will germinate any new varieties. Love your video!

I actually have about 5-10 varieties (minus my crosses) that I would like to [just] grow. Problem is variability (take Yellow Bhuts for example). I am hoping 2013 will be the year I can narrow it down, but I definitely need to grow out a few to select first.
 
Gary, I hope to keep it simple next year as well. So far I am only planning on over wintering 5 - 10 plants and I'm not sure if I will germinate any new varieties. Love your video!

Good luck next season
Mike

Thanks! Sounds real good Mike...The free time I would have on the weekends with only 5-10 plants seems like an impossibly happy dream! As they say in the 12 Steps, I am powerless over my chile growing addiction!

Besides the reduced number of varieties and plants, I want to cut way back on the real hot chiles, like anything above 100K Scovilles or so. I find myself more and more wanting to grow mild and medium heat Mexican style chiles...Flaked Chilhuacle Rojo is one of the most complex and interesting spices I've had, and I'm keen to explore in depth those types of flavors. Also, I just can't get enough of green chile from my roasted Poblanos. I know it may be blasphemous to say it here on the THP, but I think it would be really fun to grow a big garden of only Mexican and Asian annuums.

Of course I will plant my "grower's private patch" of NagaBrain and those wonderful Caribbean yellow chinenses. And I think I will alway have one or two "pet" baccatums in containers. They are just too cool not to grow...

I actually have about 5-10 varieties (minus my crosses) that I would like to [just] grow. Problem is variability (take Yellow Bhuts for example). I am hoping 2013 will be the year I can narrow it down, but I definitely need to grow out a few to select first.

I'm right there with you, Charles. I'm looking forward to next season growing out your special Bonda and, of course, Jamie's NagaBrain, plus one or two other real interesting crosses that came up this year. Except next year I will only start 3-4 individual plants in my test grows, instead of 12-24...
 
Thanks! Sounds real good Mike...The free time I would have on the weekends with only 5-10 plants seems like an impossibly happy dream! As they say in the 12 Steps, I am powerless over my chile growing addiction!

Besides the reduced number of varieties and plants, I want to cut way back on the real hot chiles, like anything above 100K Scovilles or so. I find myself more and more wanting to grow mild and medium heat Mexican style chiles...Flaked Chilhuacle Rojo is one of the most complex and interesting spices I've had, and I'm keen to explore in depth those types of flavors. Also, I just can't get enough of green chile from my roasted Poblanos. I know it may be blasphemous to say it here on the THP, but I think it would be really fun to grow a big garden of only Mexican and Asian annuums.

Of course I will plant my "grower's private patch" of NagaBrain and those wonderful Caribbean yellow chinenses. And I think I will alway have one or two "pet" baccatums in containers. They are just too cool not to grow...

I still can't believe how similar your thoughts are to mine, in regards to chiles! I have become more obsessed with discovering new flavors and versatility than heat in chiles nowadays as well. I am really struggling on narrowing down my number of varieties, I feel like a hoarder that just can't get rid of this or that because of some kind of persistent sentimentality(sp?) attached to them. I mean in reality the chiles I use on a practical regular basis I could count on one hand, but I end up growing 2-3 dozen varieties? I do have it narrowed down to about a dozen varieties for next season so far, but I can't seem to knock down the number (~17) in pots on the patio (I need space for flowers, herbs, and other veggies too!) They are like pets!

You do have me interested in the Chilhuacle rojo now too. Did they perform well in the heat of the summer? I love Poblanos(ancho and mulato) but they don't seem to perform well here. I highly recommend you try Aji Pinguita de Mono, I can send you some isolated seeds if you want to try them out (isolated pods are just starting to turn red in the greenhouse now).
 
My problem is that the type of chiles I prefer changes like the wind. I love making powders with the superhots. And I use an occasional superhot on a pizza, too. But for everyday cooking, I like mainstays like good, hot jals and serranos. Such a nice green crunch to them.

Then I find myself eating a lot of the baccatums like candy (I don't eat much candy in volume :)) and realize they're hard to beat for sugar content and still having some pop.

And then I can't lose my cayenne/Thai types because they dry do well, and I like tossing them in and toasting/roasting them dry for East Asian dishes and to mildly spice other foods.

I think we all have problems...
 
The allure of 50 superhot plants has left me. I prefer the types of peppers I can, and will consume on a daily basis. I will still grow 5 or 6 superhots, but just to make some powder. But my main focus has changed for the new year.
 
I picked these nice garden annuums for my Dad last week: California Wonder and Zapotec Jalapeño:

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Almost forgot...My Mexicana sister-law-law made this lovely dish with my chiles: Poblano, California Wonder, Chilehuacle Rojo, and Zapotec Jalapeño. The Poblanos are stuffed with goat cheese.


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I just messed myself a little...
 
Wow, thanks everybody! Luz is an amazing cook. She went to culinary school in Mexico. Definitely an inspiration to grow more of those type chiles!

I still can't believe how similar your thoughts are to mine, in regards to chiles! I have become more obsessed with discovering new flavors and versatility than heat in chiles nowadays as well. I am really struggling on narrowing down my number of varieties, I feel like a hoarder that just can't get rid of this or that because of some kind of persistent sentimentality(sp?) attached to them. I mean in reality the chiles I use on a practical regular basis I could count on one hand, but I end up growing 2-3 dozen varieties? I do have it narrowed down to about a dozen varieties for next season so far, but I can't seem to knock down the number (~17) in pots on the patio (I need space for flowers, herbs, and other veggies too!) They are like pets!

You do have me interested in the Chilhuacle rojo now too. Did they perform well in the heat of the summer? I love Poblanos(ancho and mulato) but they don't seem to perform well here. I highly recommend you try Aji Pinguita de Mono, I can send you some isolated seeds if you want to try them out (isolated pods are just starting to turn red in the greenhouse now).

Jesse, what you said is exactly my experience. I think it was really fun to grow all those different varieties, just for the experience of it, but I'm over it now...Kind of like being a "free agent" in your teens and twenties, just checking out all the different girls that are out there, but later on there's something real gratifying about settling down and getting down to serious business with just one lady. Only then do you really get to fully know and appreciate a person, and all her flavors and complexities. Maybe I shouldn't take that analogy too far, but you get the idea...

I can't really say how well Chilhuacle Rojo did in the worst part of the summer, because my plant-out was really, really late this year. They set a prodigious amount of pods in the fall, and they are definitely slated for a 12-plant row in my 2013 garden. You should certainly try them and see how they do in your garden. I can only say that however many plants of Chilhuacle you have, it's not enough!

On the topic of infernally hot gardens, like mine, where the large-podded, thick-meat types like Poblano and California Wonder, and even NuMex Jalmundo, are very difficult to grow, I've had some success just waiting out the hot weather. Here in NW Louisiana we have a "split" season: The first one is mid-March through mid-June, when most all the NW Louisiana growers get their good production, then the brutally hot months of July-September when there is no production from ANYTHING, then another temperate period of October and November. Most every year I plant out too late to take advantage of the early period—and just end up nurturing huge, leafy, barren bushes through the dog days, until the fruit begins to set in early October. That's when I get probably 90% of my production. So where a grower in a more temperate climate would get 300-500 pods from 5 or 6 plants over a 3-4 month period, I get the same amount from 20 or 30 plants over a one-month period. My numbers are probably off, but you get the idea...

I've got seeds from both Chilhuacle Rojo and Chilhuacle Amarillo if you need some. At least I'm pretty sure the yellow ones that sprouted from Beth's Chilhuacle Rojo seeds are Chilhuacle Amarillo...

Whenever they get ready I would love some seeds of Aji Pinguita de Mono.

The allure of 50 superhot plants has left me. I prefer the types of peppers I can, and will consume on a daily basis. I will still grow 5 or 6 superhots, but just to make some powder. But my main focus has changed for the new year.

I like it Rodney! It will be real interesting to watch our new thinking bear fruit that we can actually use!

My problem is that the type of chiles I prefer changes like the wind. I love making powders with the superhots. And I use an occasional superhot on a pizza, too. But for everyday cooking, I like mainstays like good, hot jals and serranos. Such a nice green crunch to them.

Then I find myself eating a lot of the baccatums like candy (I don't eat much candy in volume :)) and realize they're hard to beat for sugar content and still having some pop.

And then I can't lose my cayenne/Thai types because they dry do well, and I like tossing them in and toasting/roasting them dry for East Asian dishes and to mildly spice other foods.

I think we all have problems...

Baccatums are chile candy for sure, Eric, and orders of magnitude better than Skittles. That's my impression of Aji Amarillo especially. I can't seem to shake the dream of bringing a full crop of those horking massive pods to full orange-ness. A guy needs a challenge like that, and those crazy huge trees are so cool....
 
Very nice updates, Gary! Interesting the conversation about the
Yellow Ajis. Mine are just now starting to really ripen - I've had maybe
five or six pods so far, but the greenhouse aji has at least 20 good sized
pods on it and the two outside plants must have a hundred between them,
with many starting to ripen. I have been surprised by the heat in them,
and agree that the flavor is hard to beat. Looking forward to harvesting
a bunch real soon, barring freeze. We keep flirting with it, but have
avoided it so far!

Good luck with your revised plan for next year's grow, and here's wishing
a great holiday season for you and your family!
 
Very nice updates, Gary! Interesting the conversation about the
Yellow Ajis. Mine are just now starting to really ripen - I've had maybe
five or six pods so far, but the greenhouse aji has at least 20 good sized
pods on it and the two outside plants must have a hundred between them,
with many starting to ripen. I have been surprised by the heat in them,
and agree that the flavor is hard to beat. Looking forward to harvesting
a bunch real soon, barring freeze. We keep flirting with it, but have
avoided it so far!

Good luck with your revised plan for next year's grow, and here's wishing
a great holiday season for you and your family!

Thanks PG! As I type this it's 28°F outside, so sound Taps for my 2012 Grow... I am grateful that so many plants made it to mid-December, though!

Speaking of Aji Amarillo, have you seen the Facebook user Aji Amarillo en Holanda? He is apparently a Peruvian expat living in Holland, who posts in both Dutch and Spanish. In his photo gallery is an indoor grow of Aji Amarillo that is awe-inspiring.

Praying for an awesome season for you and your!

I'll PM you when they are ready.

Cool! Thanks!
 
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