Man I'm over this, Habanero500 your full of wind, this is a disscusion board for like mined people, the only thing you have posted is your complaining and whinning, get over it and get on with it or just go away
Yellow Bhut Jolokia - ChileSeeds
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Yellow Bhut Jolokia
To Jungle Rain:
I am over it and done with it. If I post on this forum anymore it will only be about peppers and not any particular person. I will keep all disagreements private from now on.
Jim
To Jungle Rain:
I am over it and done with it. If I post on this forum anymore it will only be about peppers and not any particular person. I will keep all disagreements private from now on.
Jim
No peppers yet, but Dave's seeds were very healthy. I had 100% germination and they were very fast to sprout even w/o a heat mat.
Dave said:Go Colts!
jjs7741 said:
Thought people may like to see Daves Lemon Bhut Jolokia's
Bit Bigger
Another
Wait theres more
and Daves tri colour (color) pack just starting off
Alright good job mate.
Go Colts! Beat Saints!
Go Colts! Beat Saints!
chilli? chli? chile?
Hi, just to clarify the name of the business. In 1998 I set up The Chile Seed Company, using the spelling CHILE since at that time most of the information and seed companys were based in the states where they used the spelling CHILE. I bought the domain www.chileseeds.co.uk.
Since chillies have become so popular the spelling has moved more to the spelling CHILLI plus I started making sauces and chutneys and selling powders and pods we decided to change the name to The Chilli Pepper Company.
It was not done to confuse people.
Now the Trinidad Viper, the story there is that, I planted Trinidad Viper for the 2009 season and lost the SMALL crop that I was going to use for seed and to have re tested. I still have seed and have just started to germinate some for testing and seed harvesting.
I still need to see if the seed will come true to type but with the heat levels as they have been recorded even if every other seed produces a hot plant I will be happy.
If you PM I will send you the test results from Warwick HRI Lab showing the results.
So at the moment I am waiting for the seeds to germinated, harvest the seeds and send some of the pods away for testing.
Thanks
Gerald
POTAWIE said:I wonder what happened to last year's new pepper from chileseeds, the Trinidad viper.
What a load of B.S.
Strange too that chileseeds is also the chilli pepper company. Either chile or chilli, you can't use both
Hi, just to clarify the name of the business. In 1998 I set up The Chile Seed Company, using the spelling CHILE since at that time most of the information and seed companys were based in the states where they used the spelling CHILE. I bought the domain www.chileseeds.co.uk.
Since chillies have become so popular the spelling has moved more to the spelling CHILLI plus I started making sauces and chutneys and selling powders and pods we decided to change the name to The Chilli Pepper Company.
It was not done to confuse people.
Now the Trinidad Viper, the story there is that, I planted Trinidad Viper for the 2009 season and lost the SMALL crop that I was going to use for seed and to have re tested. I still have seed and have just started to germinate some for testing and seed harvesting.
I still need to see if the seed will come true to type but with the heat levels as they have been recorded even if every other seed produces a hot plant I will be happy.
If you PM I will send you the test results from Warwick HRI Lab showing the results.
So at the moment I am waiting for the seeds to germinated, harvest the seeds and send some of the pods away for testing.
Thanks
Gerald
i WANT TO TRY THIS TRINIDAd viper
PM SENT
OH YEAH MY LEMON BHUT IS DOING GOOD SOO FAR AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE OUTSIDE IN A FEW DAYS OR SOO!! I WILL REPORT ALL ON IF IT IS A BHUT OR NOT OR EVEN YELLOW. SORRY caps
PM SENT
OH YEAH MY LEMON BHUT IS DOING GOOD SOO FAR AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE OUTSIDE IN A FEW DAYS OR SOO!! I WILL REPORT ALL ON IF IT IS A BHUT OR NOT OR EVEN YELLOW. SORRY caps
Good luck Gerald
Even if the Viper(or yellow bhut "mutant") is real, in my opinion nobody should be marketing and/or hyping or reselling seeds that are unproven, unstable and/or unreliable. You don't even know if they breed true and your were hyping/marketing them? Is it even a Trinidad variety, or just more marketing hype? HPLC testing is often flawed or samples are not properly submitted for true accuracy. Also some testers use 15 million SHU as a conversion for pure cap, some use 16 million SHU. I wish I could find the article from Dr. Bosland that explains how easy it is to have flawed or tainted HLPC results. Maybe it is the real deal but even so, it seems everybody these days has the new hottest pepper and around here we don't overcharge, we usually trade or give away seeds.
Even if the Viper(or yellow bhut "mutant") is real, in my opinion nobody should be marketing and/or hyping or reselling seeds that are unproven, unstable and/or unreliable. You don't even know if they breed true and your were hyping/marketing them? Is it even a Trinidad variety, or just more marketing hype? HPLC testing is often flawed or samples are not properly submitted for true accuracy. Also some testers use 15 million SHU as a conversion for pure cap, some use 16 million SHU. I wish I could find the article from Dr. Bosland that explains how easy it is to have flawed or tainted HLPC results. Maybe it is the real deal but even so, it seems everybody these days has the new hottest pepper and around here we don't overcharge, we usually trade or give away seeds.
Just a bit of constructive criticism (which I know will be taken wrong, but bear with me):
From the Chileseeds page regarding this 'Elvis riding the loch ness monster while battling UFO's', the Yellow Bhut:
http://www.chileseeds.co.uk/hot_chili_pepper_seed.htm
'We hope this yellow bhut jolokia is a mutation and not a cross pollinated variety. The Chile Pepper Institute explained to us that a mutation is actually better than a cross as it allows the original chilli to remain potent and unchanged in flavour and shape. The chilli will have a pungency level similar to the red Bhut Jolokia. We will not know untill this lot of seeds is harvested and grown. Thanks for becoming part of this exciting experiment, don't forget to send us your yellow Bhut pictures and your names.'
Now, I've been a participant in many, many experiments in my life, and requested participants for quite a few as well, and I was always under the impression that 'participants' participated freely or were 'paid' to participate, rather than part with what could amount to some as a considerable amount of money for what could end up being a 'what if'.
If you are willing to wait until this other Viper chilli which is so full of capsaicin that a single pod can strip the paint of orbiting satellites from ground level and single handedly defeat both COBRA and the DALEKS, while at the same time supplying the heat for every curry house in Europe is ready and stable for viable seed to be sold,...
...then why rush to sell the yellow bhut 'maybe it is, maybe it isn't' if it can be subject to criticism (at least in this forum) of a level the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit would actually welcome?
Again, just an observation.
From the Chileseeds page regarding this 'Elvis riding the loch ness monster while battling UFO's', the Yellow Bhut:
http://www.chileseeds.co.uk/hot_chili_pepper_seed.htm
'We hope this yellow bhut jolokia is a mutation and not a cross pollinated variety. The Chile Pepper Institute explained to us that a mutation is actually better than a cross as it allows the original chilli to remain potent and unchanged in flavour and shape. The chilli will have a pungency level similar to the red Bhut Jolokia. We will not know untill this lot of seeds is harvested and grown. Thanks for becoming part of this exciting experiment, don't forget to send us your yellow Bhut pictures and your names.'
Now, I've been a participant in many, many experiments in my life, and requested participants for quite a few as well, and I was always under the impression that 'participants' participated freely or were 'paid' to participate, rather than part with what could amount to some as a considerable amount of money for what could end up being a 'what if'.
If you are willing to wait until this other Viper chilli which is so full of capsaicin that a single pod can strip the paint of orbiting satellites from ground level and single handedly defeat both COBRA and the DALEKS, while at the same time supplying the heat for every curry house in Europe is ready and stable for viable seed to be sold,...
...then why rush to sell the yellow bhut 'maybe it is, maybe it isn't' if it can be subject to criticism (at least in this forum) of a level the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit would actually welcome?
Again, just an observation.
I'd still pay to buy both the yellow bhut and trinidad viper. As long as companies make some effort to explain the possibilities of it being a new and unstable cross, then I'm cool with that. I just think it would be interesting to try...add a little excitement to the garden.
Haven't heard of the Viper chile, who's got seeds?
Personally, I wouldn't pay a cent for a seed/plant that a vendor says might be an unstable cross. If what the seed/plant produces may be unpredictable then it shouldn't be on the market. There's no excitement for me if I plant what I believe is a Naga and it turns out to be a Habanero. But, if the company tells you before hand that what you're buying may be something other than what they think it is, and you buy it anyway and it turns out to be something else, then you can't really complain.
The buyers should be holding the seed vendors to a certain level of integrity in their business practices instead of giving them a free pass to sell seeds/plants that may not be what they're advertising.
2 cents.
Alan
The buyers should be holding the seed vendors to a certain level of integrity in their business practices instead of giving them a free pass to sell seeds/plants that may not be what they're advertising.
2 cents.
Alan
I totally agree Al. I've got enough different hottie seeds to last me a lifetime without having to buy overpriced, unproven, unstable and/or unreliable seeds. I can totally see how vendors make a killing off gullible chileheads, especially the E-bay scammers, maybe I should get into the seed scamming business. Anybody want to buy the world's hottest chiles: the Siling labuyo, diablo negro, red savina, or the chiletepin?
I personally don't even like giving seeds away or trading unless I've grown them myself for a few years and tested them. I just can't see selling a product that you're not fully familiar with, its just bad business in my opinion
I personally don't even like giving seeds away or trading unless I've grown them myself for a few years and tested them. I just can't see selling a product that you're not fully familiar with, its just bad business in my opinion
Yellow Bhut Jolokia "Boy do I feel stupid"
People when I am wrong I will admit I am wrong. David does indeed have a Yellow Bhut Jolokia. At least 4 people I know of including Janie at Chile Plants got Yellow Bhuts from the same seed stock David used. It is indeed a Bhut. It is not from David getting cross-pollination. I agree it should be grown out for a season to see if it is stable because that is what Janie and others I know suggest. Or at least make a big bold disclaimer when you sell something like this and sell it lower price. But I owe apologies to David for making accusations of cross-pollination. I myself got some Bhuts coming out Yellow past season and dismissed them as Devil's Tongue. So I will grow out David's seeds and my seeds and isolate the plants to see if 3rd generation stabliizes. 3rd generation should be good enough to verify it. I dont expect Dave to accept this public apology. And I still don't agree about selling seeds first year if something comes out different than what you planted. Especially if its something not seen before or rare. But David and UK seeds do have the right to do what they wish with their business and I will do what I think is right with mine.http://www.thehotpepper.com/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Jim
People when I am wrong I will admit I am wrong. David does indeed have a Yellow Bhut Jolokia. At least 4 people I know of including Janie at Chile Plants got Yellow Bhuts from the same seed stock David used. It is indeed a Bhut. It is not from David getting cross-pollination. I agree it should be grown out for a season to see if it is stable because that is what Janie and others I know suggest. Or at least make a big bold disclaimer when you sell something like this and sell it lower price. But I owe apologies to David for making accusations of cross-pollination. I myself got some Bhuts coming out Yellow past season and dismissed them as Devil's Tongue. So I will grow out David's seeds and my seeds and isolate the plants to see if 3rd generation stabliizes. 3rd generation should be good enough to verify it. I dont expect Dave to accept this public apology. And I still don't agree about selling seeds first year if something comes out different than what you planted. Especially if its something not seen before or rare. But David and UK seeds do have the right to do what they wish with their business and I will do what I think is right with mine.http://www.thehotpepper.com/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Jim
Yellow Bhut
No pics Al. As I said in last post I thought I just had Devils Tongue so I just picked them and saved a few seeds. Will see what they turn into this year along with Daves.
No pics Al. As I said in last post I thought I just had Devils Tongue so I just picked them and saved a few seeds. Will see what they turn into this year along with Daves.