hobbies GUNS!!!!

[Trippa]

Trippa-
Again- start another thread then...this thread is for people who enjoy them.Name calling etc isn't going to go over well either.You think there is no bravado on a pepper website?...REALLY??? That post wasn't pointed at you -it came after a little browsing some past posts.I don't understand people jumping into a thread, and starting the stir up the sh*t process. I don't think any of the enthusiasic posters are even from your country or even on your side of the planet.If you don't like it ...why bother?

Have a good one-
Dave

Fair enough but like I have stated before I am not anti guns or ownership or trying to stir but interested what drives people to arm themselves and for what purpose ?? What better place to ask that then a gun thread ??

I also wasn't name calling simply stating that I thought that was a simplistic view point not that you were ultimately simplistic or narrow minded and I apologise if that is how it came across.

Bravado about peppers/chillies on a website for that purpose to me is a completely different kettle of fish to other forms of bravado based on ownership of a weapon.

I will also refrain from posting anything here in the future.
It seems that any challenges or questions of a persons motives for gun ownership are obviously something a good deal of people don't enjoy or can't/won't understand.

As for being on the other side of the planet I don't see how that effects anything in terms of the issue??

Anyway sorry for stirring and I will step away from the post to allow people to post about there toys unchallenged.

Enjoy.

 

[gnslngr]

Trippa-
I guess that was a bit pointed when it shouldn't have been, I'm sorry for that, but not for the intention.The thread was started just in the sense of fun, and thats what we do ,have fun with it. My post was meant just to deter a bunch of political stuff from starting here-which WILL get a pissing festival going big time-and just take the fun out of it.
Peace-
Dave

 

[Trippa]

Trippa-
I guess that was a bit pointed when it shouldn't have been, I'm sorry for that, but not for the intention.The thread was started just in the sense of fun, and thats what we do ,have fun with it. My post was meant just to deter a bunch of political stuff from starting here-which WILL get a pissing festival going big time-and just take the fun out of it.
Peace-
Dave

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All good bro

Peace
Trippa

 

[Hylomar]

Fair enough but like I have stated before I am not anti guns or ownership or trying to stir but interested what drives people to arm themselves and for what purpose ?? What better place to ask that then a gun thread ??

I also wasn't name calling simply stating that I thought that was a simplistic view point not that you were ultimately simplistic or narrow minded and I apologise if that is how it came across.

Bravado about peppers/chillies on a website for that purpose to me is a completely different kettle of fish to other forms of bravado based on ownership of a weapon.

I will also refrain from posting anything here in the future.
It seems that any challenges or questions of a persons motives for gun ownership are obviously something a good deal of people don't enjoy or can't/won't understand.

As for being on the other side of the planet I don't see how that effects anything in terms of the issue??

Anyway sorry for stirring and I will step away from the post to allow people to post about there toys unchallenged.

Enjoy.

The motivating factor for weapon ownership is not necessarily quantitative. What drives an individual to drive a Chevy or Ford? Why drive at all? Millions of Americans own no vehicle and do not drive. Many more have grown up driving a Chevy or Ford and have had their personal preference for product skewed. Most of the time people are a product of their environment. I personally have grown up around weapons. I now shoot competitively, though I admit I am not a good as I might like. Some people collect stamps, others gun and yet others collect Star Wars memorabilia. Remember that despite what the media might portray, there are requirements established for firearm ownership. Sixty five million responsible firearms owners killed no one today.

That being said…I humbly submit my rifles.

From front to rear...

.223 wylde AR15 Frankengun
9mm Rock River Arms AR15
12 gauge Remington 870
6mmBR with a Krieger Barrel on a Savage Precision Action. Stock is from McRee Precision.

 

[gnslngr]

Nice ! I have a Rock River/Oly arms carbine AR in .45 acp/Express- having a tough time with getting enough brass for the Express though. Seems I always end up checkin when "out of stock" is the result. If you go through photo bucket(pain in the ass)...the image might get a little bigger...and thats always better for the porn shots!

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

Meh Guns are boring shooting a pig at 200yards with a rifle vs 20yards with a compound bow now thats some fun and as for security my dog takes care of my property

My dog has 1 real job: announce the presence of an intruder. He does it well, and takes it seriously - he gives a distinct and authoritative bark and lets me know that someone is here that I do not know (he has a totally different bark to announce friends - no, really) - and when he does make that noise, I get up and check it out.

Because while my dog is 60 lbs and might be able to take a good bite out of an intruder or unwelcome arrival, he is also just a 60 lb dog and no match for a boot to the head or a kick to the ribs.

So basically, the dog lets me know if it might be time to shoot someone. It's just not worth risking my dog's well being letting him go after a person. Plus I'm in CA and despite "beware of dog" signs, an intruder who survives the dog could potentially sue me. So better that I handle them with a well aimed shot, thus denying them that future opportunity.

Once again, I pray that day never comes, but as they say, luck favors the prepared.

 

[GreenTea]

I went through a gun nut phase in my early 20's. Then I actually got my first hand gun after waiting ages to get my license (yes, I'm Canadian). After shooting a few times, I realized it is actually pretty boring. One box of ammo and I was always ready to go home. Plus there are way too many political extremist overweight middle aged weirdos at gun ranges. That's a big part of what turned me off from "gun culture". Too many wannabees who want some sort of power and authority. Bossy range warriors.

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

Plus there are way too many political extremist overweight middle aged weirdos at gun ranges.

Too many wannabees who want some sort of power and authority. Bossy range warriors.

A judgement you made about all gun owners based on your limited experience at a single local range? Hmm....seems more than a little unfair to me.

 

[paulky_2000]

I went through a gun nut phase in my early 20's. Then I actually got my first hand gun after waiting ages to get my license (yes, I'm Canadian). After shooting a few times, I realized it is actually pretty boring. One box of ammo and I was always ready to go home. Plus there are way too many political extremist overweight middle aged weirdos at gun ranges. That's a big part of what turned me off from "gun culture". Too many wannabees who want some sort of power and authority. Bossy range warriors.

A judgement you made about all gun owners based on your limited experience at a single local range? Hmm....seems more than a little unfair to me.

Good point.

Some people that make their way into this thread only want to stir up crap......like a vegetarian in a beef forum.

It's all BLAH BLAH BLAH.........


I own expert medals in the Navy for pistol AND rifle......and yeah....I like to shoot stuff.

 

[GreenTea]

Be fair though, gun enthusiasts tend to suffer from group think. Make any comments against the safety of guns and you're not part of the cool kids group anymore. It does good to challenge the mob rule mentality.

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

Be fair though, gun enthusiasts tend to suffer from group think. Make any comments against the safety of guns and you're not part of the cool kids group anymore. It does good to challenge the mob rule mentality.

You're "being fair" how exactly? You said "to be fair" then cast a broad judgement on all gun owners based on a half assed assumption that you just made up. Fair? Come on.


You have no way of knowing this. "gun owners" are all lumped together for you when nothing could be further from reality. I've taught at least 3 attractive women to shoot, I shoot at a range where families and police frequently shoot, and I've shot in competitions with successful career minded independent thinkers who shoot apolitically.

You cannot lump us all into that bucket, so no - I will not agree that gun enthusiast suffer from "group think" any more than fishing enthusiasts, skateboarding enthusiasts or any other hobbyist suffers from group think.

I own expert medals in the Navy for pistol AND rifle......and yeah....I like to shoot stuff.

As such I'm sure you bristle if engaged about the topic of gun safety.

 

[Nova]

Yup, love me some guns. Don't mind makin' 'em either..

 

[GreenTea]

Gun crimes kill an estimated 4-5000 people a year

The actual numbers are:

12-15,000 gun related murders in the US every year.

30-35,000 deaths all together (murders, suicides, accidents, police shootings, etc.)

Hundreds of thousands of gun shot wounds, ranging in severity from flesh wounds to near brain dead quadriplegics.

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

The actual numbers are:

12-15,000 gun related murders in the US every year.

30-35,000 deaths all together (murders, suicides, accidents, police shootings, etc.)

Hundreds of thousands of gun shot wounds, ranging in severity from flesh wounds to near brain dead quadriplegics.

Wow - it's gone up since I last checked. But thank you for making my point for me. 35,000 is .05% of alcohol & tobacco deaths. You know what else makes near brain-dead paraplegics? Diabetes - why not campaign against sugar and corn syrup peddlers - gun deaths are like .02% of those.

with so much violent crime, why wouldn't you want to have people own guns to defend themselves from those criminals.

I notice you didn't dispute my 99.7% figure or speak to whether those were legal guns committing all those crimes. All that stuff you said? Yeah - committed with illegal guns, not registered firearm owners. .

So let's cut to the chase - what does any of this have to do with the people posting in this topic, and those who enjoy shooting responsibly? Are you contending that of the millions of responsible gun owners, family people, working people - they're all eventually going to snap *pow!* and go from shooting pieces of paper to shooting people?

Or is it more likely that an illegal gun owner who was say, robbing a liquor store with a gun is going to shoot someone. Or a person at home, asleep with is wife & 3 kids in the house - when he hears a window break and an armed intruder comes into the house - I bet a lot of those murders you mentioned are like that too. And wouldn't it be great if they had a gun to protect themselves? And isn't it their right to do so?

Yet you'd see fit to cast judgement on them all and lump millions of responsible people together into the 5 rednecks you saw at a range once. Gotcha.

good luck with that.

 

[texas blues]

The actual numbers are:

12-15,000 gun related murders in the US every year.

30-35,000 deaths all together (murders, suicides, accidents, police shootings, etc.)

Hundreds of thousands of gun shot wounds, ranging in severity from flesh wounds to near brain dead quadriplegics.

Statistics are all well and good until somebody attacks you or your family.

Feel free to quote those stats then.

 

[gnslngr]

The same incorrect stats as last time, ...and....yawn.

...except last time he was registered, permit holding etc...now he "got bored" after a box....I think there is hope here, he sounds like a real quitter.
Not even worthy of a warning point or good Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Oscar double Foxtrot.

He/she/it has their own special thread now though.....

I

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

Here are the real numbers provided by your own gob'ment.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj...ontent/guns.cfm

Looks more like 11,500 people were murdered with a firearm, in 2007 - the most recent statistics on record at the USDOJ. That number has been stable since 1993. In fact it's been in decline, despite the sensationalism of every gun crime.

• According to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) in 2008, 303,880 victims of violent crimes stated that they faced an offender with a firearm.
• Incidents involving a firearm represented 7% of the 5.1 million violent crimes of rape and sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated and simple assault in 2008.
• The FBI's Crime in the United States estimated that 68% of the 16,929 murders in 2007 were committed with firearms.

​
Offenders

• 
  According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -
• 
  a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
• 
  a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
• 
  family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

 

[GreenTea]

99.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Usually by people with an agenda.

The same incorrect stats as last time, ...and....yawn.

...except last time he was registered, permit holding etc...now he "got bored" after a box....I think there is hope here, he sounds like quiter.
Not even worthy of a warning point or good Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Oscar double Foxtrot.

I

Unfortunately this isn't a gun forum. You can't just ban everyone for not towing the NRA line.

 

[Scovie]

Why the hell do people gotta STIR UP S**T?
I don't go over to your barbie thread talkin 'bout my GI Joe.

If guns don't interest you, why are you here (PLEASE don't answer that here)
You are not going to change anyone's mind, so don't go away mad, just go away.

BACK ON TOPIC.

I'm going to go shoot my dad's Colt Police .22L revolver with Elk Horn grips, to blow off some steam,
Sound good y'all?

 

[Lucky Dog Hot Sauce]

Right - the US Beureau of Justice Made that up on the spot.