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hot-sauce Is this possible/accurate to extract Capsaicin?

not only the dangers of the cap IF you could extract it the procedure that is described is insane. for one you probably couldn't get PURE ethanol. Secondly pure ethanol has a flash point somewhere around 55F - meaning it would take a little spark to set it on fire, let alone mixing this crap in your blender. Then it describes heating this mixture?? Seriously?? You'll probably end up burning your house down before you could even get the pure cap. Easier to just buy "The Source" or other extract. Might cost you some, but cheaper than hurting yourself or burning down the house.
 
And even if you were successfull doing extraction with alcohol, I'm sure you'd be left with more than just Cap and would have to do further processing
 
That's the easy part. many filters are built especially for only letting Ethanol through (you should thank the gas industry for that). so what's left is CAP!
 
Omri said:
That's the easy part. many filters are built especially for only letting Ethanol through (you should thank the gas industry for that). so what's left is CAP!

I was thinking about sugars and other capsainoids etc. that would still likely be present
 
POTAWIE said:
I was thinking about sugars and other capsainoids that would still likely be present
Well that's inevitable... you need some kind of chemical response to filter those out.
 
POTAWIE said:
I was thinking about sugars and other capsainoids etc. that would still likely be present

Well, the instructions says "The red oil is fairly pure Capsaicin, probably 40% Capsaicin / 60% Capsaicinoids."
 
I don't know why you would need a blender with ethanol in it anyway. I think it warrants some precautions but not too much fear. "Grain" alcohol (available here in Connecticut) is almost entirely pure ethanol. 190 proof. I have stories about that for another time...

I figure you could use your blender to chop up some peppers pretty finely, then toss them in a jar of Grain for a day or so, then pour the contents through a coffee filter, then evaporate the liquid however you wanted.

One other thought- I drop a pepper into small jars of vodka or tequilla so that I can use it for drinks. It usually takes more than just one day to get the full heat, more like a week I think. Maybe it's just me.

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Omri said:
You don't get it, do you? cap is poison. it won't kill ya (not in the doses we speak of anyway), but it's poison. only birds are immune to that evil cap poison! lucky for us... cause the burn is what we like!

Nearly every substance known to man is poisonous. At my parents home we had this booklet "Handbook of poisoning" (Don't ask. My parents are both doctors... As a kid I loved to read this and take it to school to freak teachers out :) ). It thought me that nearly every substance is poisonous e.g. water is, if consumed in large amounts (I think it was something like the LD50 being 2O liters, but don't quote me on that, because I don't remember accurately).


Is it true that birds are immune to capsicum poisoning? I know that they aren't put off by the heat in those bird pepper pods, but that's not to say you cannot poison them with enough pure capsicum extract.
 
my_key said:
that's not to say you cannot poison them with enough pure capsicum extract.

Are you suggesting drowning birds in pepper extract? :shocked:

Birds don't suffer the adverse effects of cap due to their complete lack of vanilloid receptors, which trigger the effects in humans. That's why birds don't eat chili, they find it bland.
 
Not really, but if that tickles your fancy, why not?

@OP: Here's some safety data for that recipe:
Capsaicin: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CA/capsaicin.html and general info (including some supplieers of the extract): http://www.chemspider.com/1265957
Ethanol: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/ET/ethyl_alcohol.html (take a look at the flash point!!!) and general info http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.682.html

Safe handling

Wear safety glasses. Ensure that no sources of ignition, such as a gas flame, hot plate or hot air gun, are present in the working area. Check that ventilation is good; use a fume cupboard if possible.
Source: http://cartwright.chem.ox.ac.uk/hsci/chemicals/ethyl_alcohol.html
 
When we tried it, we did it in a chemistry lab, and we crushed haps that were frozen with liquid nitrogen. All we got was a small amount of a very hot, very flavorful oil.
 
As for poisoning someone with cap, the test for it would be quite easy, taste a drop of the victums blood. 17 grams of cap ingested would probably make his/her blood hotter than the hottest hot sauce out there.
 
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