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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
I'm loving the weather :)

I posted in a different thread that now, and the corresponding time in the fall, are the best weather we get all year...

I painted (most of) my windmill, and have it (mostly) bent back into shape... its not making any funny noises... So I'm taking that to be a win, even if I can't encourage one of the blades to be perfectly straight...
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off to check the plants... be back later.

Ken
 
I'm loving the weather :)

I posted in a different thread that now, and the corresponding time in the fall, are the best weather we get all year...

I painted (most of) my windmill, and have it (mostly) bent back into shape... its not making any funny noises... So I'm taking that to be a win, even if I can't encourage one of the blades to be perfectly straight...
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off to check the plants... be back later.

Ken
Ken,
I burried mine a few inches to keep it from falling over, and I'm going to use it as a tomato cage this season. Should look kinda cool with a big cherry tomato bush in it. Too bad you live cross country, We have a powder coat booth and oven at my shop. We use it to paint bombs, but hey it would work wonders on a windmill too!

Here's the oven in action...its about 7 ft tall, 20 ft long and cooks at a balmy 1800 degrees...ish.
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haha thats pretty sweet :).

hows it do for car parts? The florida sun has started destroying my paint. Not that it would be cost effective to ship the sheet metal off my car across country haha! But still it has me wondering if I would be better off having it powder coated...

Probably cost prohibitive for a 1999.

The windmill received a coat of the very finest 30 year old vintage rustoleum (or however old... its been in the garage at least 8 years). It covered the rust fairly well, but I ran out... Will need to go pick up another couple of cans - another brown, and then whatever color I decide to put over the brown - likely navy blue... Or a dark green... Or a burgundy... decisions decisions...

I should paint it garnet and gold (FSU) to tease my neighbor who is a diehard UF fan...

Whatever color I paint it, will be whatever color I end up painting the trim on the exterior of my house this winter.

Too bad there is no such thing as photovoltaic paint...

The windmill started out anchored to a concrete pad... But the first tropical storm we had nearly ruined it, and tore it loose from the concrete damaging the legs, and frame badly... It took me a week to get it back into shape. You can't see it from the picture but the two inches of leg, plus the bottom support rail are all buried, well whats left of the lowest support rail any way, it has rusted pretty badly underground. 44mph winds are brutal on most anything... Next time I hear of a windstorm, I'll just lay it over in advance. Oz of prevention right?

Well I got everything fertilized this morning - peppers, trees, grass... everything.

In the process of I found two batches of hatching eastern luber grasshoppers...
This is a picture I grabbed off flickr, but its a good representation of what I saw, except having freshly hatched all 50 were still there in a circle... I stomped and stomped and stomped until they all quit moving... Best way to prevent a problem in the future, is catching them now... I digress... here is the picture:
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credit to Richard Crook aka Crookrw for the picture.

IN somewhat happier news, I found I have about a dozen jalapenos, and half a dozen more cayenne coming up than I thought... I knew they all have flowers, but I didn't know that some had progressed well beyond just having flowers :). looking forward to firing up the old smoker, and pureeing some more :D.

Oh two more things, I went to home depot and tried to find two things - both mycorhizzae and mosquito dunks... They knew of neither. So I decided to sevin dust the plant being grafted... was quite liberal with its application especially on the soil... Looks like its sitting in snow...

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Finally, while fertilizing I noticed the sun shower the other day caused my leaves to have little burns in them... At least thats what I'm thinking... its supposed to rain again tonight. So despite them being ready, I'll leave them go till morning.
Oh look more pods :D
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Oh two more things, I went to home depot and tried to find two things - both mycorhizzae and mosquito dunks... They knew of neither. So I decided to sevin dust the plant being grafted... was quite liberal with its application especially on the soil... Looks like its sitting in snow...

I found the Mosquito Dunks at WalMart in the insecticide section. Sevin is good stuff, I use it on my tomatoes, I am using Bug b Gone on my peppers...

I have been through several tropical storms, and a few hurricanes. I know what they are capable of. Hoping for a quiet year along the East/Gulf Coasts for you folks.

Looking forward to the photos.
Shane
 
I'll have to check at walmart! I think we have 4 or 5 of them within 15 miles or so, they keep popping up reminding me of eastern lubber grasshoppers... haha...

Yeah - on the coast, we are in trouble if we get hit directly... last time that happened was 19 years ago this tuesday... we had 6' of water in the house... lost everything we owned... the northern folks called it the "blizzard of 93" others the perfect storm, other the "superstorm" but around here it was called the no-name storm... Hit at the equivalent of a catagory two hurricane...

If it goes east to west, no worries... We've had cat 3's and 4's with no problems (other than a few downed trees, and probably losing a pepper crop... but in the grand scheme of things... relatively minor damage). West to east, and if it hit (while rotating counter clockwise) north of us, we'll get flooded again, if the eye goes south, we get the worst of the wind, but the water is pushed away from land.... Its a rare event that we are hit by a hurricane, much less west to east, and then 50/50 whether it will hit us north or south (even direct eye wall contact is preferable to the immediate south side).

Looks like I got sidetracked when it came to the pictures... I'm editing the last post now.
 
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Just wanted to post a quick weather update for my area.

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You could have gone all night w/o saying that!

Hey your plants look great, Ken. It seems bizarre that you and
Shane are experiencing bug problems in sort of a parallel universe fashion!
Great fun checking on life in the sun belt!
 
Thanks Paul... Yeah He has the exact same windmill as I do too...

LOL at the weather comment.

I'm loving it, even if it is particularly windy again tonight.
 
I had planned to bring my graft outside... but we are having 12mph sustained winds with 22mph gusts...

So I'll post what I have planned... Then upload the pictures of what I have done when I can actually do this thing...

I plan to fill the milk just planter to the top with peat, water, tape it closed. Place it on its side with the scion facing up. Place a small brick under the tip of the host, and tie the tip in two places to the brick. Place a piece of wood, or some small thing (short stack of old junk mail perhaps) as a shim under the milk jug to elevate the scion ever so slightly. I want it to be the highest point.

Also today I'm going to plant:
PI 260595 (Chinense) x2
Maya Red x2
Habanero de Arbol x2
Cumari Pollux x2
Pi1441654 x2
C. Chacoense Unknown Cultivar x2

And others yet to be decided.
 
I hear thunder and lightning,evil laughter.......churning windmills, heck you guys could have a windmill off!Never been done before....THP is breaking awesome new ground this year... hmm, now I'll have get a windmill too..... :rofl: .
And yes , digress the hell out those giant black f*ckers!...oh, and the grow is coming along nicely also :cool:

Though I hope those specs under the leaves on that that tree monster, are just specs...???
 
I have been torting them as well haha... Hopefully I get them all... As they grow they turn yellow, and get to be huge... I'm told they aren't as bad as some pests... But the problem is 1 produces 50, so I miss 1 this year, I have 50 to deal with next year....

Obviously i missed a few last year because I had to squish more of those evil little critters today as well...

Three more hatchings of 50 I found and "digressed".

1 may not hurt a garden, but 50 will, and next year having 2500 would destroy a garden...

Thus far: Ken:250, Lubbers:0*

*that we know of.

Which picture?

Also most of you probably are not too familiar with eastern lubbers... They are quite pernicious... Immune to the worst of poisons, they have no natural predator (except me), and are poisonous to anything that tries to eat them. Birds die, pets can get sick and so forth... The cold doesn't harm their eggs, floods don't harm their eggs, tilling does sometimes (but considering two of the nests I've found in between patio stones, that is not always an option).

Here is a picture of an adult munching on a chili (found it online):
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They breed like rabbits, and are fertile by june.

Here is another picture of a week old group of nymphs:
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Again, not my picture, one I found online...

I hate the things. I feel like I'm being invaded by an army... Every few hours I go out and walk my property looking for these guys so that I can crush them. They don't like sevin, but I wouldn't want to use it on that broad of a scale, near the water... a few plants here or there, where I can keep the stuff from going into the canal is one thing... But coating the yard (which would likely kill the Lubbers, would also kill the fish, algae, and marine ecosystem... So all in all, not a good trade off... Which leaves me outside stomping on them praying I get them all, and hoping no adults think my yard would be a good place to leave their eggs...
 
Need some of these guys!
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My nursery sells them and ladybugs...might buy a couple boxes of each. The ones they sell are farmed not collected so they're eco friendly all around. I found this guy stumbling around the other day once I moved the plants out of the greenhouse...he looked confused, so I picked him up and put him back in his pepper tree forest. Them, chickens or guineas will take care of the hoppers, but the last two may take care of some of your young plants as well.
 
Predators won't eat them, and those that try die.

In florida bright colors mean posion... Predators see that, and won't attack... you can toss these guys in a chicken coop, and the birds won't touch them, any that try, will likely die.

Plus, they - even as baby nymphs, are too big already for Mantises.
 
I had planned to bring my graft outside... but we are having 12mph sustained winds with 22mph gusts...
Sounds like what we're having : )
So I'll post what I have planned... Then upload the pictures of what I have done when I can actually do this thing...

I plan to fill the milk just planter to the top with peat, water, tape it closed. Place it on its side with the scion facing up. Place a small brick under the tip of the host, and tie the tip in two places to the brick. Place a piece of wood, or some small thing (short stack of old junk mail perhaps) as a shim under the milk jug to elevate the scion ever so slightly. I want it to be the highest point.
Can't wait to see this! Hope you had fun planting today!
 
I did - I always enjoy that :)

I've seen people say its nerve racking to plant their seeds... But I don't understand their angst...

I LIKE planting things, I LIKE watching them grow, and I LIKE eating them...

I don't like the bugs warfare, and weeding :)

By this evening the wind had died down completely, but I had work to do tonight - someones computer needed fixed... The customer says I'm like batman for computers haha... He tips well too, so I tend to drop everything to help...
 
I hear thunder and lightning,evil laughter.......churning windmills, heck you guys could have a windmill off!Never been done before....THP is breaking awesome new ground this year... hmm, now I'll have get a windmill too..... :rofl: .
And yes , digress the hell out those giant black f*ckers!...oh, and the grow is coming along nicely also :cool:

Though I hope those specs under the leaves on that that tree monster, are just specs...???

+1 You guys crack me up! The G-men, for sure :D Gives the phrase 'tilting at windmills'
whole new meaning. But I have no idea what that might be.

+100 on those disgusting grasshoppers. There's so much to eat, why do they have to pick on our gardens?
You need a squirt gun filled with some kind of caustic solution, and you could play terminator, too!

Hope you have time to tend those gorgeous pepper plants!
 
My windmill would make it to the playoffs and choke...its painted in chargers colors. As opposed to my team the Cowboys in which case it would choke before it got there...Calling for gusts to 75 mph this weekend...I better tie that thing down or it will end up in the bedroom with me.
 
They are only susceptible to chemicals while young, and you have to score direct hits... Residue on plants isn't sufficient... Most of the chemicals that they are affected by can't be used en masse near bodies of water. Which is unfortunate (because I would like something effective, that won't kill off the manatee behind my house).

My grandfather used to use malathaion to control Lubbers, but in the end he said that the best way is to squish them. Unless you literally drown them (hold them beneath the surface until their lungs fill up) in poison, the poison isn't too effective on the adults. UF agricultural department backs that up saying that mechanical control is the only thing truely effective...

Genocide is the only answer.

Thanks for the high praise on my plants Paul! I need to weed the garden... But I've been busy hunting Lubbers. Maybe I'll get to it tomorrow morning. Peppers need just the right amount of neglect...

Shane haha! You had me rolling... My windmill (if were calling teams here) would have won.... in the 90s, but hasn't done too awful much ever since (FSU). My other team - the Bucs, would probably choke before the season even started due to issues with ownership... We can't even get coaches that have been fired for being terrible to come work with the Glaizers.... Had to hire a guy from college football (a move thats failed everytime its been tried)... Anyone remember Steve Spurrier former Gators (boo hiss) coach, turned NFL coach, turned coach at UNC for the Gamecocks? lol
 
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fresh plants :)

I noticed I have lady bugs on my roses!! I haven't seen any aphids, but I'm happy to have Lady Bugs any way.

Also the bees are out in full swing... I have a bottlebrush tree that literally buzzes there are so many bee's... A thousand bees buzzing at once is an impressive sound.

Galapaga's planted today (3 for starters)... Pretty excited about those :)
 
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