pod Supposed to be a Bhut Jolokia, but...

Helldozer · Jul 29, 2012

Hey all,

Note: Moved thread here from Growing Peppers section.

I was sold seed for this a while back as a Bhut Jolokia. However, after many months of growing and finally getting pods I think I have discovered that it is not a Bhut Jolokia. I don't know what it is though, any thoughts?

Thanks!

Bootsieb · Jul 29, 2012

Looks to have Nagabon traits!

Helldozer · Aug 5, 2012

Trade Winds Fruit, where I bought them came back and said these looked like Ghost Peppers to them. :/ I'm completely confused now. I have two other "Ghost Pepper" Plants and only one of them look like they are Ghosts. The other look like a Devil's Tongue...which I am growing also. However, I cannot tell the difference between a Ghost and Devil's Tongue. When you look at photos, they could go either way. The photos I posted above do look a lot like a habanero type, but I don't have a clue.

I planted three Ghost Pepper Plants this year, first time for me. The photos from above are supposed to be one and below are from two other "Ghost Pepper" plants.

The first one I believe might actually be a Ghost, although it ripened too soon. (Anyone know why your plant would ripen so quickly?)

The second one almost looks like one of my Yellow Devil's Tongue plants. I'm 99% sure I did not mix them up either. I've been pretty disciplined with my labels.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Plant #1

Plant #2

Helldozer · Aug 13, 2012

I do believe Plant #2 is a Devil's Tongue.

I was thinking the red one was a Red Habanero, but after looking at a lot of photos of habaneros I'm not sure. :/

Also, what I find weird and please correct me if it doesn't matter, the skin is flat not shiny like most habaneros.

krim · Aug 14, 2012

First post is a Naga Morich (or some open cross), mine have almost the same shape, smooth skin and pod size. The seeds were leftover from the ones my friend ordered from Trade Winds and the baggie said Naga Morich.

Dulac · Aug 15, 2012

krim said:
First post is a Naga Morich (or some open cross), mine have almost the same shape, smooth skin and pod size. The seeds were leftover from the ones my friend ordered from Trade Winds and the baggie said Naga Morich.

Hmm, they don't look like my naga moriches. Naga moriches should be much shorter. They also don't look like the red habaneros, ghost chiles, or bih jolokias I grow.

Here are some naga morich pods I picked last week:

Here are some on my plant I took today (they look a bit funny in this pic /shrug):

Edit: Here are the same pods that I picked off the plant in the above pic today:

Helldozer · Aug 15, 2012

Hmmm. Yours look a little different than mine. I'll have to cut one open and post the photo. They(mine) look like a red habanero almost.

Dulac · Aug 15, 2012

They have a naga look to them. Do you know what a red habanero and a bhut jolokia taste like?

spongey600 · Aug 15, 2012

Helldozer said:
I do believe Plant #2 is a Devil's Tongue.

I was thinking the red one was a Red Habanero, but after looking at a lot of photos of habaneros I'm not sure. :/

Also, what I find weird and please correct me if it doesn't matter, the skin is flat not shiny like most habaneros.

plant 2 is not a devils tongue. the devils tongue's do not get contorted like that.

OP, those are not Bhuts, possible a naga, or caribean red

Helldozer · Aug 15, 2012

Dulac said:
They have a naga look to them. Do you know what a red habanero and a bhut jolokia taste like?

I don't. I have eaten a pod from the first plant and it was pretty hot. Would you be able to tell by looking inside of each?

spongey600 said:
plant 2 is not a devils tongue. the devils tongue's do not get contorted like that.

OP, those are not Bhuts, possible a naga, or caribean red

Yeah, I thought it looked a little different from my Devil's Tongue plant. Although, it smelled like the Devil's Tongue. I'll have to do a side-by-side taste test. Because plant 2 was supposed to be a bhut jolokia. Does it matter if the out skin is flat or shiny? Because plant 1 is very flat, no shine or bumps.

Dulac · Aug 15, 2012

Helldozer said:
I don't. I have eaten a pod from the first plant and it was pretty hot. Would you be able to tell by looking inside of each?

Maybe. It's hard to tell because there are different types of red habs. They look way too skinny to be red habs though. If it's of the naga sort there shouldn't be many seeds and the placenta should go all the way to the bottom.

Helldozer · Aug 15, 2012

Dulac said:
Maybe. It's hard to tell because there are different types of red habs. They look way too skinny to be red habs though. If it's of the naga sort there shouldn't be many seeds and the placenta should go all the way to the bottom.

The thin one on the right is not what they are looking like. I'll post a photo shortly of the other pods coming in.

Here might be a better view.

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krim · Aug 15, 2012

I've already harvested from my tree, and the heat dropped most of the other ones. Here are some pods from the TWF "Naga morich" bush that I started drying. The more pointed ones are at the bottom of the oven, but you get the idea.

Dulac · Aug 16, 2012

TWF? What's that?

krim · Aug 16, 2012

trade winds fruit

Dulac · Aug 16, 2012

krim said:
trade winds fruit

Do they have a naga like flavor?

TheFanMan · Aug 16, 2012

Dulac said:
Do they have a naga like flavor?

im not sure, the guys at TWF probably wouldn't apreciate you licking them to find out.
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/

Helldozer · Aug 16, 2012

TheFanMan said:
im not sure, the guys at TWF probably wouldn't apreciate you licking them to find out.
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/

LOL!

krim said:
I've already harvested from my tree, and the heat dropped most of the other ones. Here are some pods from the TWF "Naga morich" bush that I started drying. The more pointed ones are at the bottom of the oven, but you get the idea.

Now those look almost exactly like my first plant. Although, I didn't think they were naga's. I've eaten one and it was darn hot, but I wouldn't have considered it deadly. Aren't naga's supposed to be deadly?

Helldozer · Aug 16, 2012

Man, this is crazy. Now I'm thinking plant #2 may be a yellow bhut, after I was viewing another thread where a grower posted a bunch of pics. I'll post photos of the entire plant and pods later this evening. To the untrained eye, it is very hard to tell the difference with these.

I want to be know what I'm growing, because I'm doing video reviews on them...so I figure it is probably best to be accurate with what I'm eating.

krim · Aug 16, 2012

Dulac said:
Do they have a naga like flavor?

Yeah, they do.

Helldozer said:
LOL!

Now those look almost exactly like my first plant. Although, I didn't think they were naga's. I've eaten one and it was darn hot, but I wouldn't have considered it deadly. Aren't naga's supposed to be deadly?

They're supposed to be very hot, but I've had hotter Nagas. I think you could get a hotter seed stock from another supplier.