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HAJ's hajj to chili

Guess it is about time I make a GLOG...
I'm living in cold Denmark, which means that everything is indoors, either in the greenhouse (spring and summer only) or in the south facing windows in the house. This again means that everything is in pots, and most in too small pots (that is also a consequence of growing more plants than I have room for).

This is the list of plants that I currently have:
Updates 2013-08-13 in red

Annum:
- Filius Blue
- Peruvian Purple
- Hungarian Hot Wax * 2
- Some Cayenne type of uncertain origin * 2

Bacatum:
- Aji Lemon Drop (4th season)
- Aji Benito
- Blondie * 2
- Criolla Sella

Chinense:
- Chocolate Habanero (2nd season)
- GRIF 9293 (2nd season)
- Some Bhut Jolokia like chili of uncertain origin (2nd season)
- Some big orange chinense of uncertain origin * 2
- Fatali White (almost as yellow as the Lemon Drop)
- Pimenta da Neyde
- Cheiro do Norte * 2
- Not CGN 21500
- Trinidad Perfume
- Bonda ma Jaques

Frutescens:
- Kaantari Mulaku (a tiny landrace from Kerala, India). This one doesn't like Danish climate. But it's mrs. HAJ's favourite...
- Some landrace from Changanacheri, Kerala, India. Turns white then red like Tabasco, but is more round. Locals just call it "chili" !

Homemade crosses:
- HAJ12D F1 and F2, Chocolate Habanero X GRIF 9293 (Chinense). Hoping to get a chili with some of the taste of the Chocolate Habanero, but with less heat.
- HAJ13A F1, Aji Lemon Drop(Baccatum) X Chocolate Habanero(Chinense). Mostly for the fun of it. But if I can get a chili that is cold tolerant like Baccatum and has brown chilies, then I'll be happy.
- HAJ13B F1, Aji Benito X Blondie (Baccatum). Hope to get a big rounded pod in cream white color.
- HAJ13C F1, <some orange chinense> X Trinidad Perfume
 
Pests:
- White Fly
- Aphids
- Spider mites
- you name it, I got it ...
Some pictures
 
Some ripe pods, from left to right: Blondie, Fatali White, Aji Lemon Drop, <some orange chinense>, CGN 21500, Aji Benito, Hot Hungarian Wax (double), HAJ12D F1, GRIF 9293, Chocolate Habanero (old and wrinkled), Pimenta da Neyde
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Hot Hangarian Wax trying to take the term "pod porn" to a new level
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Filius Blue flower
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Ready to make some yellow powder
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End of Bhut season 2012 (plant was filled with aphids and had to be stripped and cleaned)
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A handfull of HAJ12D F1. Has the glossiness of the father, GRIF 9293
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HAJ12D upskirts
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Inside of HAJ12D F1. Oil drops visible on placenta (though I am aiming at something medium hot)
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HAJ12D family. From left to right: HAJ12D F1, GRIF 9293 (father), Chocolate Habanero (mother)
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Bonus picture. My son with a bottle gourd (some Indian cucumber-like vegtable)
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A big thank you for all the fantastic info. and GLOG's on this site, and special thanx to POTAWIE, Spicegeist and gasificada for inspiration on making crosses.
 
That's all for now. Thanx for looking  :dance:
 
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Great pictures HAJ! You have a real nice selection of peppers there! Good to see real pepperheads in Europe.:-) Keep posting pics and updates, and good luck with your season!
 
Nice that you started your glog :) That's a very glossy pod the HAJ12D F1, what about the taste so far? Does it taste like the Choc Hab?
 
meatfreak said:
Nice that you started your glog :) That's a very glossy pod the HAJ12D F1, what about the taste so far? Does it taste like the Choc Hab?
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The pod itself (without placenta) is mild and not much taste, like the GRIF 9293. The placenta however is very hot, probably same level as the Chocolate Habanero, but the taste is more like other red chinense varieties. I'm speculating that maybe the color and taste is linked (same gene or something). Will have to wait and see with the F2s. Have 2 F2 hooks :)  
 
A small new update.
 
Second cross this year havested: Aji Benito X Blondie = code named HAJ13B until I get to something a bit stable. Sorry no pictures  :oops:
 
First 2 F2 plants of my first cross HAJ12D (see first post for details)
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My second cross Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero (HAJ13A) putting out some big leaves
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Peruvian Purple getting ready to flower
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Filius Blue podding up
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And todays bonus picture. My wife's eggplants. Supposed to be white and green ...
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That's all folks. Hope you liked it.
 
Ok, high time for an update  :party:
 
Have been visiting the in-laws in India. So this update is a bit about what you can find in Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala, India.
 
First pictures are of my wife's favourite chili, Kaantari Mulaku, more or less growing wild in the coconut grove
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A ripe pod
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A week later opened the pod from picture above for a seed count: 2 total. Sorry, phone camera not good with this size of pod  :rolleyes:
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Some supermarket chilis:
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All prices in Indian rupees. Yes, the last one is approximately the same as featured in the first 3 pictures
 
Only chinense seen on this trip, on the vegetable market
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A few green chilis ready almost ready for sale
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Bonus picture of the day: An Indian ladybug like insect taking a walk on my 8 year old son's finger during a drive. Estimatet 2-3 mm long. (excuses for poor image quality)
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Have a few more Indian bonus pictures (not chili) if I get a bump ...
 
Thanx compmodder26 and HabaneroHead
 
Most of the stalls at the market have a big selection of Indian vegtables, and then suddenly a big stall with just onions and potatoes
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Jackfruit tree. 
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The experts preparing a jackfruit. Complicated fruit. The sap of the peel is extremely sticky
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Shopping in the local government cashew nut depo
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And when visiting in monsoon time I may be lucky and get the pool all to myself...
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That's all for now folks. Next update will be from surprisingly hot DK.
 
HAJ said:
That's all for now folks. Next update will be from surprisingly hot DK.
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Well, surprise weather is over. We have temperature of around 15c, lots of wind and overcast, i.e. typical Danish summer weather ...
 
On to something hotter:
 
My 4th cross, <some yellow/orange chinenese> X Trinidad Perfume, almost ready for harvest.
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3rd cross, HAJ13B F1, Aji Benito X Blondie, putting out their first real leaves
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2nd cross, HAJ13A F1, Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero, first flower, followed by flower of mother and father plants
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and do we have thr first pod ?!?
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My first cross is also doing fine. Now have 12 F2 plants growing. Hoping to get a good candidate for F3. Will document results here.
 
Have also been trying to make a cross with my Pimenta de Neyde, but no luck this far ... any tricks with this one that I'm missing ???
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And then for an unexpected cross. My CGN21500 turned red with no shadows. Plant size and pod shape seems correct. Maybe I should try growing a few F2s of this one ?!!
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A finally the bonus picture of this update. I took seeds from one of my dahlias, Park Princess, to see if I could get lucky. This is the best flower from the bunch
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That's all folks. Hope you enjoyed the show.
 
As time pass by. Almost a month that is. An incredible amount of whiteflies are taking the energy from my plants and some of the fun out of chili growing ...
 
Anyway, show must go on. Still havesting, and crosses are coming along. 
 
HAJ12D: 12 F2 plants growing and first flower opened up today. Plenty of pollen. Should be able to taste this one this year !
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HAJ13A F1: Pods are now full size. Patience is a virtue  :(
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HAJ13B F1: Growing nicely. Still no forking in sight. Hope I'll get a ripe pod this year.
 
HAJ13C F1: Not that big yet...
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HAJ13D: After 30+ attempts, finally got a pollination with Pimenta de Neyde to take  :dance: (keeping the name of mama to myself for now)
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or was there some stray pollen ... pls. let it work :pray:  
 
Time to do some powder again. Chocolate Hab., some yellow/orange chinense and Pimenta de Neyde
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That's all for now. Thanx for looking
 
Composing and making crosses is very interesting. I am looking forward to seeing the pods on the "Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero" cross and the "Aji Benito X Blondie" cross.
 
Ferby said:
Composing and making crosses is very interesting. I am looking forward to seeing the pods on the "Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero" cross and the "Aji Benito X Blondie" cross.
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Fully agree. Only just started here with my very first F2s.
 
The pod shape of Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero should be final now. More pictures when they are ripe. I expect the colour of the F1 to be red, as not-brown is dominant over brown, and red (from Choc. Hab.) is dominant over yellow. The fun should begin with the F2's. If the seeds are viable ...  :pray:
 
HAJ13A F1 = Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero. First ripe pod  :dance: 
 
Approx. 1 day between each picture
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And that was the end of my patience  :oops:
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No visible oil inside. Heat fairly average between the parents. Lets say a 100,000+
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6 seeds total of which 5 look viable
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And almost forgot the family picture (which is taken after cutting the pod open)
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Do not plan to sow the seeds until Dec/Jan, as we have passed equinox, and it will soon be cold, dark and gloomy. But I will have to keep the F1 plant going for some time to get a decent supply of F2 seeds.
 
Todays bonus picture is not my own, so I will not post it here. However, I have a deep link to it on FB. It should work if you are logged in ... 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201381852142376&set=a.1093605234456.14585.1656308120&type=1&theater
It is the new "toy" of my employer (hint: it is hidding behind the little mermaid)
 
Thanx for looking. Goodnight.
 
Very nice!
Red, Shorter than lemon drop and more folded as a habanero is. Looks like you are doing it right!
Are there more pods on the way? 5 seeds aren't much to work with :/
F2 is in sight :)
 
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HAJ said:
HAJ13A F1 = Aji Lemon Drop X Chocolate Habanero. First ripe pod  :dance: 
 
Approx. 1 day between each picture
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And that was the end of my patience  :oops:
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No visible oil inside. Heat fairly average between the parents. Lets say a 100,000+
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6 seeds total of which 5 look viable
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And almost forgot the family picture (which is taken after cutting the pod open)
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Do not plan to sow the seeds until Dec/Jan, as we have passed equinox, and it will soon be cold, dark and gloomy. But I will have to keep the F1 plant going for some time to get a decent supply of F2 seeds.
 
Todays bonus picture is not my own, so I will not post it here. However, I have a deep link to it on FB. It should work if you are logged in ... 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201381852142376&set=a.1093605234456.14585.1656308120&type=1&theater
It is the new "toy" of my employer (hint: it is hidding behind the little mermaid)
 
Thanx for looking. Goodnight.
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Great idea for a cross, especially since there are no brown ripening baccatums. I have made a similar cross this year, Criolla Sella x Georgia Black. Really looking forward to seeing your growout of the F2's...
 
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Donnie said:
Great idea for a cross, especially since there are no brown ripening baccatums. I have made a similar cross this year, Criolla Sella x Georgia Black. Really looking forward to seeing your growout of the F2's...
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Sounds like a great cross too.

I thought about the no brown bacatums too, but never thought about trying to make one ;)

I think the Georgia Black, Aji Panca, Brown Egg are all quite different from a lot of the "normal" chinenses as say a habanero. They are much more hairy. At least the ones i have grown and seen are.

If you have a picture of your F1 i'd like to see it.
 
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