=[ Another GM Experimental Thread ]=

looking forward to some quickie batches to utilize some stuff that's getting really old and/or taking up space around here ...
 
i'll get to scratch a whole bunch of itches this week ...
 
malt extract
CO2 hop extract
tetra
using the little big mouth bubblers
no boil, sous vide beer
 
all kinds of randomness that i never got around to, really ...
 
'raw ale' experiment coming up ...

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prototype ...

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can do better ...

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can do better ...

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can do better ...

test batch pale ale coming this evening ...

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still, can do better ...

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I want to cover A LOT more ground, faster ...
 
I want to test hops/yeast/recipes/styles etc without burning whole brew days to do so. Brew days for 3+ gallon batches are fine and dandy, but I'm completely over full brew days for exploratory batches ...
 
tctenten said:
You are losing me. I will google it...but what are you doing?
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Going to run a test batch later today of a no-boil pale ale in a LBMB inside my brew kettle sous vide style ...
 
Going to steep a little dextrin, crystal, and a minuscule amount of dark grains (a la Red Eye) in the LBMB with 165F water circulating around the LBMB with the (wort) extract and 1/2ml or so of hop extract for bittering ...
 
After 45 minutes, I'm going to run a hop series for the last 15 minutes ... for aroma and flavoring ...
 
Then I'm going to lower the recirc water temp using the plate chiller to cool the LBMB (and contents) ...
 
When it's cool enough, I'll pitch a half a packet of US-05 and let her rip ...
 
By staying under 180F, I shouldn't create much DMS, if any, and modern extract is pre-boiled anyways ...
 
Should make a gallon of hoppy pale ale, with all of the mess inside the LBMB and none of it in my rig ...
 
The biggest downsides are 1) without using hopshot, you'll waste a bunch of hops, and 2) potential need to use sucrose or rice sugars etc to manage dryness/body for having or not having much in the way of hot and cold break etc ...
 
When it works, I'll do it with 4x at once in the cooler ...
 
I'll put 4x LBMB in the 100 qt mash tun cooler ...
 
I'll run the sous vide in there with 165F water, and then pull the plug into the sink, and throw a couple of bags of ice in there with some cold water, to make 4 gallons (of same, or different) at once ...
 
This should work for some styles, better than others, for sure ...
 
Not going to be a winning technique for pilsners, for sure ...
 
Will be wasteful in terms of hops if you don't either 1) leverage hopshots/hopjizz, or 2) do a sidecar hop tea etc ...
 
It's not going to make the best beer on earth, but if I can make 4x beers hands off in an hour or two, I'll get to test and explore and make better decisions about what recipes are worth dedicating a brew day to ...
 
:CHEERS:
 
A lot of the world makes their ordinary daily-drinker beer this way, in all honesty ...
 
It's limiting compared to the full palette of things which are possible doing it full-on, all grain, and with using the full cadre of things available to us here in the States - but it'll make beer from what I gather ...
 
And right now, I just want to cover a lot more ground much, much faster than I have been, without having to dedicate whole days to any individual trial batch ...
 
It's all just going too slowly for me ... in part because of my process, but also because it's onerous to try to consume beer that I'm just not passionate about ...
 
Ozzy2001 said:
Curious how big of a shit Wheebz is gonna take on this. Good idea, for what you're trying to get from it.
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He knows - he's rather in favor of making hop tea's to test the hops, but like I told him, I also have a bunch of old yeasties to use up, too, and I'd like to gleam some wisdom from them ...
 
If it works out better than perhaps imagined, I can envision supplying myself some light-colored, quick-turnover beers this way - and putting most all of my time (and passion) into the dark one's that I care much more about, in earnest ...
 
We'll see ... I'm wrapping up work in the next hour ... and then I'm going to do a single gal test run to see how long it takes for the contents of the LBMB to hit temp in the recirc water etc etc ...
 
This out of normal bounds in purpose, in light of people's commentary on batches they've brewed ...
 
I'm not using hop extract in it (initially) as a baseline, and just burning an oz of Galaxy into a gallon, but I plan to do that in the future as an improvement of sorts ...
 
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an ounce of galaxy hops and just under 5 oz of character grains in there in the dry-hopper, with a pound of light extract, all in a gallon of filtered water ...

recirc temp set to 165F, time set to sound the alarm after 60 mins have passed, beginning once the temp has reached 165F ...

then i'll yank the dry-hopper and run the plate chiller to cool everything down ...

i'm just going to ferm it at room temp this time, in the dark ...

should be interesting!
 
Fifteen mins into counter, stirred wort temp is 145F, so I upped the recirc temp to 175F for the remainder of the hour ...

Kill length with a wort temp of 160F is like three seconds, so it'll be fine no matter what truthfully ...

I also found a perfect yeast candidate for this batch, which has a higher upper end ferm temp, and is aggressive re: attenuation ...

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