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Best vocalist ever? Are they high?

First of all, anytime I hear "best ever" or "absolute favorite", I cringe. There is no such thing as one singular "best" just like nothing is ever 100%. I mean, how can you compare John Lee Hooker, David Lee Roth, Bobby Darin and Mariah Carrey or Whitney Houston?
All very talented in their genres but if you're in the mood for one, the other won't do, which all boils down to an individual's OPINION. Who is to say who the absolute "best" is? I am. For me. If I am going to work, I LOVE my F-150 pickup. If I am cruising on a Saturday afternoon, it's my Caddy and only my Caddy. Which one is "best"? Hmmmm... Neither?... Both?

Opinions are like assholes, we all have one and they all stink. :rofl:
 
Jeff H said:
That doesn't make much sense SL. By that logic, you would have to argue that Angus Young is one of the best guitarists of all time and Gene Simmons was right at the top with John Paul Jones. After all, AC/DC and Kiss had just as big of an influence as Led Zep.
 
NOT!
 
 
Rob Halford was another that came to mind with a broader vocal range then Axl.
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I was thinking the same thing.
Scoville DeVille said:
First of all, anytime I hear "best ever" or "absolute favorite", I cringe. There is no such thing as one singular "best" just like nothing is ever 100%. I mean, how can you compare John Lee Hooker, David Lee Roth, Bobby Darin and Mariah Carrey or Whitney Houston?
All very talented in their genres but if you're in the mood for one, the other won't do, which all boils down to an individual's OPINION. Who is to say who the absolute "best" is? I am. For me. If I am going to work, I LOVE my F-150 pickup. If I am cruising on a Saturday afternoon, it's my Caddy and only my Caddy. Which one is "best"? Hmmmm... Neither?... Both?

Opinions are like assholes, we all have one and they all stink. :rofl:
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I try and press that point as well Scovie but ignorance is bliss in musical tastes. I compare musicians to painters often. Is Van Gogh better than Monet? It's all a matter of taste when you compare apples to apples. ;)
 
TrueNorthReptiles said:
 
Eh, child's play for a competent metal drummer.
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Yes with their double bass pedals.  Try it with a single - even his son had to use double bass pedals when they performed at the reunion.
 
RobStar said:
 
Yes with their double bass pedals.  Try it with a single - even his son had to use double bass pedals when they performed at the reunion.
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No, with a single bass pedal. I know several drummers personally who can play "double bass" on a single bass pedal. It is a rocking heel/toe motion. I am not a drummer so I am not sure of the technical name for it, but it is a common drumming technique, just as hammer-ons and pull-offs are common guitar techniques. So again, I stand by my comment. He did nothing extraordinary.
 
Proud Marine Dad said:
I was thinking the same thing.

I try and press that point as well Scovie but ignorance is bliss in musical tastes. I compare musicians to painters often. Is Van Gogh better than Monet? It's all a matter of taste when you compare apples to apples. ;)
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???
 
quotes from you:
Yeah sicman likes some pretty talentless bands. Haha 
 
He will mature and appreciate the real artists one day. Mark my words.  ;)
 
sicman said:
???
 
quotes from you:
Yeah sicman likes some pretty talentless bands. Haha 
 
He will mature and appreciate the real artists one day. Mark my words.  ;)
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Here's a quote for you... What the fuck are you talking about? :rofl:
 
Scoville DeVille said:
Here's a quote for you... What the f**k are you talking about? :rofl:
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those are quotes from proud marine dad.  from a while back.
 
 
they are very diffrent from the 
 
Proud Marine Dad said:
I was thinking the same thing.

I try and press that point as well Scovie but ignorance is bliss in musical tastes. I compare musicians to painters often. Is Van Gogh better than Monet? It's all a matter of taste when you compare apples to apples. ;)
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Male vocalist my vote would go to manard james or Plant. Such beautiful voices.
Though my favorite artist has and always will be Manson. Even if I did name my first born son after the band Atreyu
 
I am not surprised. Look at all the lists that rank Jimi Hendrix as the greatest guitarist of all time. Not even close to an accomplished musician. Or John Bonham as the greatest drummer. Not even in his day! People who vote on these stupid polls generally biased and do not know jack about music and the skill required.


Whoa dude, i gotta disagree with you on both points. Not saying either is the best of all time, but both were damn good.....and pioneers.
 
BurninBob said:
Whoa dude, i gotta disagree with you on both points. Not saying either is the best of all time, but both were damn good.....and pioneers.
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Eh, influential and pioneers for sure, but they don't have anything on Steve Vai, Jeff Loomis, Joe Satriani or John Petrucci (guitar) or Danny Carey, Blake Richardson, Bran Dailor or Mike Portnoy (drums).
 
Anyone else irritated by Axl Rose's whiny, nasal-y, smoked too many cigarettes vocals?
 
I sure am the negative nancy in this thread...  :mope:
 
Scoville DeVille said:
First of all, anytime I hear "best ever" or "absolute favorite", I cringe. There is no such thing as one singular "best" just like nothing is ever 100%.
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Huge difference though in saying someone is the "best ever" and someone is their "absolute favorite."
SRV is my absolute favorite guitarist but he was not technically even close to Joe Satriani or Eric Johnson, etc.
 
and this discussion is continuing tonight in the Salsa-household as the vinyl is spinning..... (ZZ Top vinyl record playing TUSH atm~ ) 
 
+++ to Marine Dad's last comment.  There is a huge difference of someone's  personal favorite and how talented that person/band actually was.
 
 
 
I understand everyone's attachment to the classic rock bands like LedZ, the Who etc. They were the first, they did what they did the best in that time and with what they had to work with...and also, WHO they had to work with for promoters/managers/etc when a lot of musicians were being ripped off.  Whitney Houston set the stage for Mariah Carey, Celine Dione, and every AmericonIdol female vocalist.  And Whitney stood on the shoulders of the likes of Etta James and Billy Holiday.
 
 I have my own attachment to Journey (much to the distress of the rest of my family every time  a Journey song comes on :lol: ).  Doesn't make them the BestBandEver...but they're my favorite... 
 
The emotions and rage-against-the-machine feelings that went along with a lot of these songs doesn't necessarily correlate to the talent of the musicians.  Just like the talent of modern musicians like Justin Bieber are often  directly related to the quality of their producer and manager....not the talent of the performer.
 
I still think that modern musicians are a lot more talented than musicians of yesteryear.  Yes, the OldSchool musicians set the stage, but as it is with everything in life, someone sets the platform and the next generation takes it up and beyond.  Back to the ModelT-vs-Mustang comparison.  The Mustang would never exist without the ModelT...but which one is better?  I think it takes more skills and talent to make a Mustang than a ModelT.  A Mustang engineer could make a ModelT with no problems, but there's no way a ModelT engineer could ever make a Mustang.  It's evolution.   
 
(new album on now- U2- Sunday, Bloody Sunday and on to New Years Day)
 
If a musician is to be called out and lauded, saying they were the best musician of their era or of that genre might be a better comparison.  All musicians playing today have the benefit of all the recordings of every genre and every generation that has come before to study /learn/and expand on.
 
 
Next album....on right now....Los Lobos..  sheesh, I'm a slow type and slower self-editor...
 
3 albums in one post!
 
 
Time to re-wine and enjoy the freakin' awesome vinyl music! 
 
Proud Marine Dad said:
Do you have a point or are you just stirring the pot? :P
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yes i have a point.  i thought i made it clear.   its in my last post.no more no less just what i said.
 
Proud Marine Dad said:
Huge difference though in saying someone is the "best ever" and someone is their "absolute favorite."
SRV is my absolute favorite guitarist but he was not technically even close to Joe Satriani or Eric Johnson, etc.
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This thread is about a catagoricly sifted "best ever" list. The people that made this list are on crack, and it's just THEIR OPINION.
They left out a whole bunch of artists that should have at least been on their list. As for me, I don't have a favorite anything. I like alot of different things, depending on my mood. Food, music, cars, even weather. When it rains in the Fall, that is THE BEST. Snow falling on Christmas Eve... also THE BEST. 100° summer day at the river... You get my point.

Now for some SAlsaLady narcotics...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InyWhQLfO7A&sns=em
 
XOXOXO Scovie!
 
edit- sheesh, Scovie, how many times did you Like/Unlike that post?  :lol:
 
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