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Cartz's 2013-14 Glog - Video update - Waaay overdue

Hey all, I find myself with a couple of free hours and thought I would finally contribute something to the forums that I've been lurking around for the last 12 months.
 
My motivation for posting a grow log this season is simple - I need to restore some pride. To be blunt, last summer was my first time growing and I sucked pretty hard. I did somehow manage to pull a few pods amidst the carnage of being double teamed by my own stupidity and mother nature, but I'm determined to be more successful this season.
 
Given that I am still very much a rookie, please don't hesitate to offer any advice or criticism you have if you see me doing anything dumb on here.   
 
Living in Brisbane (AUS), I wanted to get things off to an early start this season. I purchased my seed stock from a couple of local vendors (JungleRain and the delightfully half-mad folk at The Hippy Seed Company) in early June, together with a couple of small heated propagators. I decided on a 100% jiffy pellet based propagation this year, simply because sitting on my couch with a steaming kettle and a bowl seemed like a cosier option than sitting on the floor up to my wrists in dirt filling up seed cells. 
 
On 28 June 2013 I planted the following seeds (4 per jiffy):
 
Biker Billy Jalapeno
Mucho Nacho Jalapeno
Bulgarian Carrot
Aji Lemon
Tabasco
Hot Fish
Super Chilli
Kanthari
Goatsweed
Orange Manzano
Scarlet Lantern
Choc Habanero
White Devils Tongue
Fatalii
Bahamian Goat Pepper
Bih Jolokia
Bhut Jolokia x Mayan Red
THSC Naga 7
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
THSC Trinidad Scorpion Chocolate 
7-Pod Primo x Choc Habanero f3
7-Pod Jonah
7-Pod Brainstrain
 
The jiffys were kept in a heated propagator with all the air vents closed in the dank spare bedroom. I resisted my usual OCD urge to look at them every 5 minutes and only checked on them twice a day to try and keep the temp constant. The $2 thermometer told me it stayed between 28-30 degrees in there. 
 
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Turns out the heated propagator was a good investment as I didn't have to wait nearly as long for some hooks as I did last season (when they just lived in a container under the sink). The next shot was taken 7 days after planting:
 
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It was 10 days after planting, and 4 days after the first hooks came through that I learnt my next lesson - I probably should have taken those jiffys that had sprouted straight out into some light. But I didn't, and they got reeeeaaaally leggy, real fast haha:
 
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10 days after sowing the seeds, and 4 days after the first hooks popped through, I decided to sow some more. There were a few different species I still hadn't planted, plus I was worried about the longevity of a few of the really leggy, pale seedlings. So on 8 July 2013 I planted the following (again 4 seeds per jiffy):
 
Biker Billy Jalapeno
Mucho Nacho Jalapeno
Aji Lemon
Orange Cobra
De arbol Blood
Blondie
Naga Morich x Tabasco
Bhut Jolokia
Pimenta de Neyde
7-Pod Jonah x Trinidad Yellow Scotch Bonnet (called a 'Nebru' by THSC)
 
I had pretty good germination rates for most of this second batch, with most species popping up between 7 and 10 days. However, by 23 July 2013 I decided what the heck and gave a few more of the slower varieties seeds a 24 hour chamomile tea soak before burying them. Interestingly, the only varieties that the soak reduced the germination time of by more then a day were the Moruga (from 9 to 6 days) and the Jonah (from 13 to 7 days). Don't know how typical this is?
 
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Here's a shot of the seedlings warming up in a sunny window taken about 30 July 2013. They are mostly looking pretty good and their will to live seems to have overcome my early negligence in letting them get so leggy. There's already some nice variegation in the first true leaves on the Hot Fish, although I'm sure that's more to do with the quality of JungleRain's seed stock than anything I've done:
 
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It was about the time of this pic that I had to start thinking about giving them some more room to grow. It's still mid-winter so there's no way they were going outside and I didn't have anywhere I could keep their feet warm yet. I started researching grow lights on the forums and was just totally overwhelmed by the amount of tech-jargon and seemingly contradictory information on there. I kinda gave up and just decided that any light would be better then none so I went to the local electrical wholesaler and picked up a couple of 38w fluoro's for only $20 a pop. I thought they were a steal compared to some of the prices I had seen. 1 trip to Bunnings and 2 hours of internet electrical wiring research later I had a very simple, rustic, but (hopefully) workable solution. They sit in the window of my north facing balcony so they get plenty of natural light already, and will hopefully appreciate just a little heat boost from the fluoro's until September when I'll move them outside.
 
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All things considered, my seedlings all seem fairly happy and I THINK I'm off to an ok start for my second season. I should note that I still have 0% germination on the following varieties, which is bit of a downer:
 
Bhut Jolokia x Mayan Red
Brainstrain
Bih Jolokia
Bulgarian Carrot
 
Any recommendations on how long I should keep them in the propagator until I give up on them?
 
Well that's about it, apologies for this first Glog entry being retrospective, but I'll be keeping it current now that I've got it up and running.
 
Thanks for checking out my Glog and please feel free to comment/criticise/enquire... :dance:
 
Things are looking awesome mate! Plants are all very healthy and will be loving the extra room to spread their roots. That pimenta de neyde could do with some thickness on its stem haha. It will get thicker gradually thanks to the wind.

Potting mix and additives can add up $'s wise. I get the perlite and vermiculite from bunnings, look like same bags, and they are pretty expensive. The mix looks and sounds good so I have no doubt it will be worth it. :D

How's the weather up there? Crap down here :(
 
Seacowboy said:
Their all looking great and your off to a running start. Keep up the good work.
 
Thanks Seacowboy!
 
Mitch_from_OZ said:
Things are looking awesome mate! Plants are all very healthy and will be loving the extra room to spread their roots. That pimenta de neyde could do with some thickness on its stem haha. It will get thicker gradually thanks to the wind.

Potting mix and additives can add up $'s wise. I get the perlite and vermiculite from bunnings, look like same bags, and they are pretty expensive. The mix looks and sounds good so I have no doubt it will be worth it. :D

How's the weather up there? Crap down here :(
 
Hey mate, yeah the cost does add up initially, but of course it's worth it haha. I've probably spent close to $500, but that includes 2 new seed propagators, a dozen more new pots, seeds, potting mix, soil improvers and pest control. And I won't need to spend more than another $100 for the rest of the season. All up it's not much for a 9 month long hobby. I easily blow more on fishing and golf...and often for LESS enjoyment :P
 
The weather has been alright lately. Plenty warm now, the days are getting over 30 degrees now, with the minimums in the high teens. There's been some crazy wind about but not enough to worry the plants, not even the pimento de neyde with chicken legs haha. Really hope things start warming up for you down there...you're overdue!
 
Good and bad news this week.
 
The good news is that all of my plants were successfully hardened off and planted out. They are all looking lush and putting on new growth less than a week after the transplant...even after sweltering through a big jump in daytime temperatures. This is a real improvement over my first season, when I probably did everything wrong and put most of them into shock for a few weeks.  
 
The other good news is that my first pods have set. I'm stoked given it is only the 2nd week of spring, and don't even care that it is only a jalapeno:
 
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The bad news is that it also took less than a week for the broad mites to find my new plants. There are a few really large, bushy, flowering trees within 1-3 metres of my balcony, and they are all teeming with birds and insects. I'd wager they are the source of the evil, but unfortunately they are on the common property so I can't touch them.  
 
I came home yesterday from a weekend away to find a fair few of my annuums just starting to show the tell-tale signs. I immediately pinched off all of the affected new growth and gave all the plants their first dose of some chem-free mite killer. I'm sure I got to them soon enough so I'm not stressing yet. The mites annihilated me last year, but that's because I had no idea what they were. It was only with the help of Gassy that I finally ID'd them after they'd been suffering for months...and by then it was far too late. I'm just going to keep up regular 2 or 3 weekly sprays and not wait to see symptoms. Still feeling optimistic for this season.   
 
Broadmites mites love annums and smash them much harder then many other types ... Jalapeños are often first to show signs
 
definitely worth the money mate! Couldn't agree more! It will pay off no doubt :) Everything is looking awesome and your weather will make sure it continues to explode. Just keep them pests at bay, I am sure you have them sorted out :)
 
Weather down here is still miserable. Raining for a few days. Next week looks a little better. My plants wont be going outside till mid October I think.
 
Well Spring has well and truly sprung in Brisbane with minimum temps now starting to nudge 20o and maximums getting up to 35o.
 
I absolutely love this time of year, and so do my plants, who are happily putting out the new growth (plus some early sets of flower buds and pods). 
 
Thought I'd upload a few pics to whet the appetite of my brethren down south who are still waiting on things to warm up...and also for any of you north of that invisible line in the sky who are tired of looking at all your pods :P
 
Balcony group shot:
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Bahamian Goat Pepper:
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White Devils Tongue starting to put out some flower buds:
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The Goatsweed's express elevator has finally decided to pause at about 2" to put on some flower buds:
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The Fatalii's haven't really taken a break since I potted them up in their first 120mm pot:
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The Hot Fish are starting to think about putting out some flowers as well:
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This Trinidad Scorpion Moruga was probably the slowest out of the blocks (tied with the Jonah's) but it's finally starting to put on some size (and the Jonah's aren't far behind it):
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After reading MGOLD's thoughts on the taste of the Naga x Tabasco I'm really keen to get some pods off of this one. It's ticking along nicely:
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The THSC Choc Scorpion has really started moving in the last week or so:
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The THSC Naga 7 is looking really healthy now too:
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Thanks for checking it out everyone. I've got a couple more pics that I'll put up a little later :)
 
things are looking great mate! They will go ballistic in that whether! Bahamian Goat looks perfect. Whats the OW in the first pic on the left? Cheers.
 
Cheers Mitch! Yep I certainly can't blame the weather for any problems...has been perfect lately.  
 
That overwinter is my Thai birdseye. It was about 6" tall and super-productive until the aphids hit it about 4 months ago. I cut it right back and it has just started springing back to life lately:
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A couple more pics taken today while I'm at it.
 
The Nebru:
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The Choc Hab was getting very bushy but has just started putting on some height (probably a bad angle to show it though):
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The Primo x Choc Habs are doing their thing too:
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That'll do for the pictures for this update. I want to keep it positive and won't mention the Jalapenos, Kantharis and Tabascos that have put the breaks on after last weeks mite incursion haha. But hey, at least they left all the chinense's alone!!  :cheers:  
 
It has definitely sprung back well. My 3rd year yellow 7 in same bucket and soil is showing new growth :) that Thai birdseye will be producing before you know it!

Can't wait to see how the choc had x primo turns out. I am still yet to try a choc hab by itself. I have heard good things.

Seems the mites want the milder plants. Interesting. Maybe just their location. Who knows. Keep up the spraying for the mites.
 
Holy smokes man! Your plants look awesome. Super healthy. I can't wait to start some more plants! You asked earlier which strain of Bonnet is my fav, well I have two that are really close to each other that I can't decide which I like better, MoA Bonnets and some other Bonnets that were labeled Montego Scotch Bonnet probably from Pic1. Keep up the amazing job man!
 
Great job!
 
Those babies look really saweet!
 
So what do you treat the mites with?
 
Mine were hit this spring, but it wasn't the Annuums, it was the Chinense they hammered. I used wettable sulfur and had good luck with that.
 
Good luck this season!
 
Mitch_from_OZ said:
It has definitely sprung back well. My 3rd year yellow 7 in same bucket and soil is showing new growth :) that Thai birdseye will be producing before you know it!

Can't wait to see how the choc had x primo turns out. I am still yet to try a choc hab by itself. I have heard good things.

Seems the mites want the milder plants. Interesting. Maybe just their location. Who knows. Keep up the spraying for the mites.
 
Good job on the Yellow 7. It'll be interesting to see how it goes for another season in the same soil! Mate I haven't tasted the primo x choc hab OR a plain choc hab yet myself. Have also heard good things about the choc hab...and I know which one I'm more apprehensive about eating (and it aint the choc hab lol). Yeah I got the hot tip from Trippa that mites seem to go for the annuums first. That's actually fine by me as I've got more of those to mess with.
 
 
Jamison said:
Holy smokes man! Your plants look awesome. Super healthy. I can't wait to start some more plants! You asked earlier which strain of Bonnet is my fav, well I have two that are really close to each other that I can't decide which I like better, MoA Bonnets and some other Bonnets that were labeled Montego Scotch Bonnet probably from Pic1. Keep up the amazing job man!
 
Thanks for checking in Jamison! It's always nice to receive positive feedback from the more experienced guys out there. I'm crediting my good start on starting the new season nice and early this winter...not too much longer for you to wait before you're at it all over again. Thanks for your opinion on the bonnets...I'm hearing lots of good things about the MoA Bonnets so I think I'll definitely be sourcing some seed for next season.
 
Sarge said:
Awesome stuff dude can't wait to finish work and have a proper look on my pc. this phone does no justice
 
Cheers Sarge. I'm happy to say I'm pleased with the photos coming off of my camera phone. No editing or tweaking, they really are that vibrant at the moment :)
Devv said:
Great job!
 
Those babies look really saweet!
 
So what do you treat the mites with?
 
Mine were hit this spring, but it wasn't the Annuums, it was the Chinense they hammered. I used wettable sulfur and had good luck with that.
 
Good luck this season!
 
Thanks for stopping by Devv...I've really enjoyed checking in on your glog this season! All I've used on the mites so far is a product from Yates called Naturesway Insect and Mite Killer. It's basically a soap gun that kills on contact. Works ok, but as with all of those types of product you've got to score a direct hit or strikeout. What's the story with wettable sulphur? I've seen it bandied about on here from time to time, but never really looked into it. Definitely will though if it's readily available and not too harmful to the plants?
 
 
Thanks for stopping by Devv...I've really enjoyed checking in on your glog this season! All I've used on the mites so far is a product from Yates called Naturesway Insect and Mite Killer. It's basically a soap gun that kills on contact. Works ok, but as with all of those types of product you've got to score a direct hit or strikeout. What's the story with wettable sulphur? I've seen it bandied about on here from time to time, but never really looked into it. Definitely will though if it's readily available and not too harmful to the plants?
I'll have to look that up...as for sulfur, It's considered organic. I use Bonides wettable sulfur, 2 tbl per gallon and spray real early in the day. I haven't seen any damage to the plants and use it for Aphids. NEVER saw an Aphid here until late August. Oils are good if you can get the plant out of direct sun. I made a Rosemary oil mix that worked really well too. But used it on a container plant that I was able to move into semi shade.
 
Thanks for the kudo's:)
 
Just a quickie to show off my first ripe pod of Spring.
 
I can't even call this Mucho Nacho an overwinter, as I pretty much just ignored it over the few coldest months, but it's rewarded my neglect with a set of decent sized pods that are now ripening up. Nothing like some poppers to keep me going while the new season plants are just kicking off.    
 
This one is bang on for my tastes, nicely corked, and just starting to turn. Get in mah bellah! :dance:
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