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ChilliCrosser Crosses

I've opted to keep details of my crossing projects in this dedicated thread rather than include it in my 2021 Glog

Edited this post to summarise what crosses I've got and where they are at, I will try and keep it current. Dates in status column reflect when I've updated the information not when the cross was actually made. I've not included every historic cross I've ever made and ignores anything where I haven't got at least F1 seeds unless I thought it was useful to record. Information might be useful to someone at some point.
ChilliCrosser CrossCurrent Status
X001 : Bolivian Rainbow x Cheiro Roxa (C.Annuum x C.Chinense)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X002 : Fijian Bongo x Cheiro Roxa (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)โŒ16/8/21: Only had a single F1 seed even though this was an intraspecific, strange result and the seed didn't germinate. End of cross project.
X003 : Brazilian Starfish Red x [CGN21500 x 7 Pot Barrackpore] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)๐Ÿคž ๐ŸŒฑ 16/8/21: Had plenty of F1 seeds from the original F0 pods. First attempt to grow an F1 was ended when weather finished off the plant before any fruiting. Currently growing four F1 plants outdoors in the 2021 season. All looking healthy but concerned I've not seen any fruit setting yet. Possibly sterile but reserving judgement until the end of the season.
X004 : Tasmanian Habanero x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X005 : Fidalgo Roxa x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)๐ŸŒฑ16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, no pods set yet.
X006 : Fidalgo Roxa x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X007 : Fijian Bongo x Aji Jobito (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X008 : Fijian Bongo x Brazilian Starfish Yellow (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds.
X009 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x C.Flexuosum (C.Baccatum x C.Flexuosum)โŒ16/8/21: Very small F0 pod set but zero F1 seeds. Inside of pod looked healthy. Lack of F1 seeds could have been due to pod size. One for me to try again at some point I think.
X010 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x [CGN21500 x Grao De Bode] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)โŒ16/8/21: Had 4 F1 seeds from a single F0 pod, only 1 germinated. F1 plant taken out by a storm. End of cross project.
X011 : Giant White Habanero x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense) ๐Ÿคฉ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ16/8/21: Summary of wide range of phenotypes from F2 here. Currently have F3 seeds for all phenotypes and have been growing a batch of F3 plants for the red phenotypes outdoors this season, waiting on F3 pods from these so hope to have F4 seeds this year. Most likely to also grow forward the Apricot Peach phenos to stabilise.
X012 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Tasmanian Habanero (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)โŒ16/8/21: Had an F0 pod but no F1 seeds. End of cross project.
X013 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Variegated Jalapeno (C.Chinense x C.Annuum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X014 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Sweet Apple Kambe (C.Chinense x C.Annuum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: Single F1 seed, not grown on yet.
X015 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Scotch Brains XCP Chocolate (C.Chinense x C.Chinense) ๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X016 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Brazilian Starfish Red (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)โŒ16/8/21: Had 2 F1 seeds from a small F0 pod, both failed to germinate. End of cross project.
X017 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Sugar Rush Stripey (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)โŒ16/8/21: Had 2 F1 seeds from a small F0 pod, both failed to germinate. End of cross project.
X018 : Brazilian Starfish Red x Peppacream (C.Baccatum x C.Baccatum)โญ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒถ๏ธ16/8/21: Started as an accidental cross. Starting to get ripe F1 pods with F2 seeds. Super tasty!
X019 : Clavo Peach x Sugar Rush Stripey (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)๐Ÿคž16/8/21: Had 3 F0 pods, each with healthy looking F1 seeds. Started germination for some F1 seeds from each of the F0 pods on 14/8/21, waiting to see if viable.
X020 : Scarlett's Chilli x Indian Chilli Bullet (C.Annuum x C.Annuum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X021 : Sugar Rush Stripey x White Bhut Jolokia JW (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)๐Ÿคž16/8/21: First F0 pod was unhealthy inside, only 1 F1 seed formed which still looked non-viable, tried to germinate it anyway but no surprises when it failed. Have another F0 pod ripening, waiting to see if that's any better.
X022 : Clavo Peach x Brazilian Starfish Yellow (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X023 : [BOC x Aji Pineapple] x Sugar Rush Stripey ([C.Chinense x C.Baccatum] x C.Baccatum)๐Ÿ…ฟ๏ธ16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.

FAQs
- Why so many crosses? Please check my username.

- Seriously, why so many crosses? I like to have plenty of F1 seeds available to pick from at the start of a growing cycle. For me personally it stops me wishing I'd made some more crosses 6 months ago and when a particular cross project hits a dead end or doesn't look interesting I have something else I can quickly switch to. You'll see quite a few interspecific crosses in my list, they are often doomed to failure so having a Plan B helps.

- Are you attempting to stabilise all of these? No, only ones which head in a direction I like.

- How many plants do you grow? 90% of my crosses are started on indoor plants grown in mini-hydro kratky jars, 240ml/8oz. Plants are kept really small and I typically only get one or two F0 pods to get F1 seeds from. So far I've normally grown two F1 plants if possible, plant numbers in subsequent generations depend on how much space I have available in each growing cycle.

- Isn't it better to just focus on a single cross? If you like all your eggs in one basket and you're not concerned with sequentially growing projects over a very long time period then yes. This is just a hobby for me so I like to keep it varied and fun whilst still attempting to stabilise my favourites.

- Why haven't you given your crosses silly names? That time will come as is traditional in the chilli pepper world. I likely won't bother until I have something vaguely stable and predictable, possibly F4 onwards.



A summary of my live projects where I'm growing plants as of June 2021 are:
  • X003 : Brazilian Starfish Red x [CGN21500 x 7 Pot Barrackpore] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)
  • X004 : Tasmanian Habanero x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X005 : Fidalgo Roxa x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X006 : Fidalgo Roxa x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X007 : Fijian Bongo x Aji Jobito (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X011 : Giant White Habanero x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)

More details of where I'm at with generations, phenotypes, plants and photos in subsequent posts on this thread. Everything is early on and ranges from F1 to F3. I've also attempted some new crosses already this season so will also mention those.
 
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Very nice, CC!
Thanks CD.

Iโ€™m only growing a small test batch of F2s for this right now, 6 iirc. Mostly space limitations and also I didnโ€™t see any indicators of hidden striping in the red F1 like Iโ€™ve spotted on other crosses.

Stuck a few in to see what they did. Of course, I wish Iโ€™d have grown dozens of them now ๐Ÿคฃ. Seeing a mix of pod shapes and flower corolla colours and patterns. The F1 I used as the father had all the carotenoid mutations in the mix, so plenty of colour options too.

Now hoping the other unripe pods on this particular F2 present striping as well. Speed not helped by me having them in a coco solo and mainly only using water to keep the growth levels down. Looking rough. Those rabenii genes like to grow!

Have another F2 showing very pale unripe pods, a cream & yellow mix like Iโ€™ve got on some of my StripeyStarfish plants would be a welcome discovery but I wonโ€™t get too greedy ๐Ÿ™‚
 
Next ripening pod does look promising though ๐Ÿ‘€
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Very cool hybrid, whats it taste like :) ?

- medium wall
- crunchy, which was weird with some of the rabenii flavour as I associate that with thin walled, soft, juicy small pods
- still quite juicy, as per pictures
- lips and tongue burn, warming
- flat and very long burn, really long!
- 20k?
- some apple peel, with classic baccatum, almost a sweet-ish black pepper (spice) type finish
 
A different baccatum x chinense F2 taking in some rays
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Have a pod on this plant starting to ripen up slowly. Started purple, like the one above, and now doing a nice transition. The F1 had some hidden striping, not sure if it made it through to this plant yet.

Itโ€™s from my X044 project which is:
(Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Sugar Rush Stripey) x (Sugar Rush Stripey x Pimenta Da Neyde)

Other F2s not showing much as yet.
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One of the X051 F2 plants putting out these consistently shaped small pods (Plant 1). Unlike the bigger bullet shaped striped pods from another F2 (Plant 2) these have kept the soft pod trait from the wild parent. Itโ€™s kept some of the nice flavours from the wild as well ๐Ÿ˜‹

C.rabenii x (Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Sugar Rush Stripey)

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On the theme of the soft pod trait, Iโ€™ve also just found F2 segregation for this on my X054 project:

Brazilian Starfish Yellow x PI 260567

Plant 1, right, has super soft red pods that fall off the calyx when ripe as per the wild parent. Plant 2, left, has picked up the yellow-orange mutation, doesnโ€™t detach from the calyx and has crunchy, crisp, pods as per the domesticated parent.

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Plant 3 has tiny pods with evidence of some lobes. Iโ€™ll see if other pods have more pronounced lobing. This has the soft pod trait as well. Micro-starfish perhaps if enough lobes on this plant or other F2s ๐Ÿคฃ
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Three more phenos from my #stripeystarfish F3 grow out. None of these plants hit the mark for that project but some interesting shapes.

Deep folds, almost propeller-like
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Well lobed yellow-orange but no striping
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Red with some peach striping or inverse depending on what the hell is going on with the striping genetics ๐Ÿ˜‚
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An additional F3 pheno, this is actually from an F2 line that I rejected for #stripeystarfish based on shape but grew forward to see if the colour combo stuck around. Tastes good, colours stuck and not a terrible shape. Will likely keep this one going into F4.
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