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ChilliCrosser Crosses

I've opted to keep details of my crossing projects in this dedicated thread rather than include it in my 2021 Glog

Edited this post to summarise what crosses I've got and where they are at, I will try and keep it current. Dates in status column reflect when I've updated the information not when the cross was actually made. I've not included every historic cross I've ever made and ignores anything where I haven't got at least F1 seeds unless I thought it was useful to record. Information might be useful to someone at some point.
ChilliCrosser CrossCurrent Status
X001 : Bolivian Rainbow x Cheiro Roxa (C.Annuum x C.Chinense)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X002 : Fijian Bongo x Cheiro Roxa (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)❌16/8/21: Only had a single F1 seed even though this was an intraspecific, strange result and the seed didn't germinate. End of cross project.
X003 : Brazilian Starfish Red x [CGN21500 x 7 Pot Barrackpore] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)🤞 🌱 16/8/21: Had plenty of F1 seeds from the original F0 pods. First attempt to grow an F1 was ended when weather finished off the plant before any fruiting. Currently growing four F1 plants outdoors in the 2021 season. All looking healthy but concerned I've not seen any fruit setting yet. Possibly sterile but reserving judgement until the end of the season.
X004 : Tasmanian Habanero x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)🌱🌶️16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X005 : Fidalgo Roxa x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)🌱16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, no pods set yet.
X006 : Fidalgo Roxa x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)🌱🌶️16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X007 : Fijian Bongo x Aji Jobito (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)🌱🌶️16/8/21: Growing F2 plants, some initial pods setting.
X008 : Fijian Bongo x Brazilian Starfish Yellow (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds.
X009 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x C.Flexuosum (C.Baccatum x C.Flexuosum)❌16/8/21: Very small F0 pod set but zero F1 seeds. Inside of pod looked healthy. Lack of F1 seeds could have been due to pod size. One for me to try again at some point I think.
X010 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x [CGN21500 x Grao De Bode] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)❌16/8/21: Had 4 F1 seeds from a single F0 pod, only 1 germinated. F1 plant taken out by a storm. End of cross project.
X011 : Giant White Habanero x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense) 🤩🌱🌶️16/8/21: Summary of wide range of phenotypes from F2 here. Currently have F3 seeds for all phenotypes and have been growing a batch of F3 plants for the red phenotypes outdoors this season, waiting on F3 pods from these so hope to have F4 seeds this year. Most likely to also grow forward the Apricot Peach phenos to stabilise.
X012 : Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Tasmanian Habanero (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)❌16/8/21: Had an F0 pod but no F1 seeds. End of cross project.
X013 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Variegated Jalapeno (C.Chinense x C.Annuum)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X014 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Sweet Apple Kambe (C.Chinense x C.Annuum)🅿️16/8/21: Single F1 seed, not grown on yet.
X015 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Scotch Brains XCP Chocolate (C.Chinense x C.Chinense) 🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X016 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Brazilian Starfish Red (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)❌16/8/21: Had 2 F1 seeds from a small F0 pod, both failed to germinate. End of cross project.
X017 : White Bhut Jolokia JW x Sugar Rush Stripey (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)❌16/8/21: Had 2 F1 seeds from a small F0 pod, both failed to germinate. End of cross project.
X018 : Brazilian Starfish Red x Peppacream (C.Baccatum x C.Baccatum)⭐🌱🌶️16/8/21: Started as an accidental cross. Starting to get ripe F1 pods with F2 seeds. Super tasty!
X019 : Clavo Peach x Sugar Rush Stripey (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)🤞16/8/21: Had 3 F0 pods, each with healthy looking F1 seeds. Started germination for some F1 seeds from each of the F0 pods on 14/8/21, waiting to see if viable.
X020 : Scarlett's Chilli x Indian Chilli Bullet (C.Annuum x C.Annuum)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X021 : Sugar Rush Stripey x White Bhut Jolokia JW (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)🤞16/8/21: First F0 pod was unhealthy inside, only 1 F1 seed formed which still looked non-viable, tried to germinate it anyway but no surprises when it failed. Have another F0 pod ripening, waiting to see if that's any better.
X022 : Clavo Peach x Brazilian Starfish Yellow (C.Chinense x C.Baccatum)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.
X023 : [BOC x Aji Pineapple] x Sugar Rush Stripey ([C.Chinense x C.Baccatum] x C.Baccatum)🅿️16/8/21: F1 seeds, not grown on yet.

FAQs
- Why so many crosses? Please check my username.

- Seriously, why so many crosses? I like to have plenty of F1 seeds available to pick from at the start of a growing cycle. For me personally it stops me wishing I'd made some more crosses 6 months ago and when a particular cross project hits a dead end or doesn't look interesting I have something else I can quickly switch to. You'll see quite a few interspecific crosses in my list, they are often doomed to failure so having a Plan B helps.

- Are you attempting to stabilise all of these? No, only ones which head in a direction I like.

- How many plants do you grow? 90% of my crosses are started on indoor plants grown in mini-hydro kratky jars, 240ml/8oz. Plants are kept really small and I typically only get one or two F0 pods to get F1 seeds from. So far I've normally grown two F1 plants if possible, plant numbers in subsequent generations depend on how much space I have available in each growing cycle.

- Isn't it better to just focus on a single cross? If you like all your eggs in one basket and you're not concerned with sequentially growing projects over a very long time period then yes. This is just a hobby for me so I like to keep it varied and fun whilst still attempting to stabilise my favourites.

- Why haven't you given your crosses silly names? That time will come as is traditional in the chilli pepper world. I likely won't bother until I have something vaguely stable and predictable, possibly F4 onwards.



A summary of my live projects where I'm growing plants as of June 2021 are:
  • X003 : Brazilian Starfish Red x [CGN21500 x 7 Pot Barrackpore] (C.Baccatum x C.Chinense)
  • X004 : Tasmanian Habanero x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X005 : Fidalgo Roxa x Giant White Habanero (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X006 : Fidalgo Roxa x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X007 : Fijian Bongo x Aji Jobito (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)
  • X011 : Giant White Habanero x Fijian Bongo (C.Chinense x C.Chinense)

More details of where I'm at with generations, phenotypes, plants and photos in subsequent posts on this thread. Everything is early on and ranges from F1 to F3. I've also attempted some new crosses already this season so will also mention those.
 
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A few more pictures of one of these seedlings. Potential C.lanceolatum x C.rhomboideum F1
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Looks very lancey. In the other thread the new growth was lighter green than the typical bluish colour of lanceolatum which made me think it was possible. Any glandular trichomes on the stem and cots. Diagnostic of C.rhomboideum but not lanceolatum. Wish it was easier to tell at that stage. Good luck!!
 
Looks very lancey. In the other thread the new growth was lighter green than the typical bluish colour of lanceolatum which made me think it was possible. Any glandular trichomes on the stem and cots. Diagnostic of C.rhomboideum but not lanceolatum. Wish it was easier to tell at that stage. Good luck!!
Yes, no signs to confirm a valid cross yet that jump out to me. I’ll take a closer look tomorrow and try to get some more useful pictures.
 
Those guys above suffered a near death experience because of a period when I couldn’t care for them. They have survived and are coming back into life. Still no rhomboideum traits spotted so I’m assuming an accidental self until I see something to the contrary.
 
Behind on starting seeds this year and on crossing updates. A few here though.

Growing some F2s of an accidental I found. Likely Hawaiian Sweet Red, which is hot, crossed with an Antep Aci Dolma father. 7 days to emerge.
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Today I had a potential F1 for another C.tovarii cross emerge, 17 days. This time I’ve used an interesting domesticated C.baccatum hybrid of mine as the mother. Hoping for a self-fertile F1 with red pods for starters, any F2’s should get crazy given the traits I injected 🤣
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Potential C.baccatum var. pendulum x C.tovarii F1 starting to make its true leaves. A good sign on interspecific crosses like this, sometimes they don’t manage it. This is still the only one up from the 10 seed batch.
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Proof of life on the potential self/potential C.lanceolatum x C.rhomboideum F1 plants 🤣 Bouncing back from their incident. Looks better with leaves than no leaves, I think this style could catch on.
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That lance cross is really coming back!
Going to be a bushy little monster.
 
X044 F2 Plant 1
(Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Sugar Rush Stripey) x (Sugar Rush Stripey x Pimenta Da Neyde)

I think I’ve found the cool multi-stage colour transition trait that the unstable father had. Not all the colours are visible currently but if like the father they should go:
Light green ->
Purple ->
Yellow ->
Yellow-orange ->
Orange ->
Red

Four of those six colours visible on the plant at the moment.
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F3 up after 28 days, hopefully continuing this ^^^ line
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Now I’m starting to get a little more excited on the potential domesticated baccatum with tovarii cross. Quite some time has passed and this is still the only seedling that’s emerged from the 10 seed batch. This makes it much less likely it’s an accidental self on those % for a domesticated baccatum.

I’m also seeing signs of the early side shoots that C.tovarii loves to push out.

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First F2 that appeared for C.rabenii x C.tovarii 4 days ago had a full on helmet head.
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It managed to escape fine on its own with the hanging water droplet technique in a few days. It got a bit leggy whilst encased but easily fixed. Now hoping more than 1 actually germinates 🤣
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I’m not growing many of this cross this year due to space, so I’m being aggressive on early selection. This one gets to live to maturity. Previous F2 had neat multi-stage ripening colours. Selected this F2 based on best young foliage.

C.baccatum dominant F3 interspecific mash of:
(Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Sugar Rush Stripey) x (Sugar Rush Stripey x Pimenta Da Neyde)
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Continuing to find good F2 lines to grow forward on this cross. I already have two nice phenos started in F3 and now have this F2 to roll into F3.

It’s a paler base colour than the others and is a much rounder shape. Presents orange and red striping. Small, round & stripey meets the criteria 🤣
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Size versus a sibling F2
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and absolute size (cm)
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And just some more harvested from an older F2 which has soft fruit. I have F3s for this line already started.
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I’ll definitely try growing out the round pheno into F3, just need to figure out space.

Cross was C.rabenii x (Brazilian Starfish Yellow x Sugar Rush Stripey)
 
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