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Coach's 2015 Overwhelming Grow

Final Grow List- Updated 3/25/15- 152 Varieties, Around 280 plants:
7 Pot Brain Strain, Red

7 Pot Brain Strain, Yellow

7 Pot Bubblegum, Red

7 Pot Burgundy

7 Pot Caramel

7 Pot Chaguanas

7 Pot Jonah x PDN, F3

7 Pot Jonah, Red

7 Pot Primo, Orange

7 Pot Primo, Red

7 Pot Primo, Yellow

7 Pot White

7 Pot Yellow

7 Pot Yellow x Bhut Jolokia India Carbon

Aji Amarillo

Aji Bolivian Long

Aji Brazilian Starfish

Aji Colorado

Ají Dulce, Orange

Ají Fantasy

Aji Jobito

Aji Lemon Drop

Aji Melocoton

Ají Omnicolor

Aji Panca

Aji Pineapple

Aji Queen Laurie

Aleppo

Ancient Sweet

Bad Brains

Bahamian Goat

Banana, Sweet Monster Heirloom

Bell, Lilac

Bell, Yellow

Bhut Jolokia, India Carbon

Bhut Jolokia, Peach

Bhut Jolokia, Purple

Bhut Jolokia, Red

Bhut Jolokia, White

Bhut Jolokia, Yellow

Bhut Orange Copenhagen

Bih Jolokia, Caramel

Bishop's Crown

Black Stinger

Bonda ma Jacques


Bonda ma Jacques x Yellow 7 Pot

Carolina Reaper

Cayenne, Purple

Cayenne, Ring of Fire

CGN 21500

CGN 21566

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Long

Chiltepe, Guatemalan Cone

Chiltepin x Reaper

Cinnamon Bell

Condor's Beak

Congo, Chocolate

Congo, Peach

Cumari do Para

Datil

Devil's Tongue, White

Dulcetta, Orange

Ethiopian Berbere

Fatalii x TSMB, Yellow

Fatalii, Black

Fatalii, Chocolate

Fatalii, Peach

Fatalii, Peach cross

Fatalii, Red

Fatalii, White

Fatalii, Yellow

Fish

Goat's Weed

Golden Treasure

Goronong

Grif 9304- Colombian Lightning

Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow

Habanero, Carolina Yellow

Habanero, Chocolate

Habanero, Dominican Huge Orange

Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel

Habanero, Large Red Belize Market

Habanero, Mustard Lightning

Habanero, Orange

Habanero, Paper Lantern

Habanero, Peach

Habanero, Red Savina

Habanero, St. Bart's

Hair

Hungarian Yellow Wax (mild)

Jalapeno, Biker Billy

Jalapeno, Early

Jalapeno, Long

Jalapeno, Purple

Jalapeno, Yellow x 7 Pot Bubblegum

Jamaican Mushroom, Yellow

Japones

Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion

Jay's Red Ghost Scorpion

Jwala

Manzano, Caballo Amarillo 

Naga Morich

Naga, Black

Nagabrain, Chocolate

Peach Wasp

Pepperoncini, Greek

Pepperoncini, Italian

Peruvian Serlano

PI 199506- Aji Guyana

PI 281424- PR Mushroom

Pimenta Leopard

Prik Chi Faa

Purple Flash

Rainforest

Red Hot Cherry

Red Savina x Fatalii Red

Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow

Red Savina x Fatalii, Chocolate

Rocoto, Orange

Rocoto, Red

Rooster Spur

SB7J (mushroom pheno)

Scotch Bonnet x Naga Morich

Scotch Bonnet, Burkina Yellow

Scotch Bonnet, Cappuccino

Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate

Scotch Bonnet, MoA red

Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow

Serrano

Shishito

Shumenski Rotund

Star of Turkey

Stuffed Red Giant

Sukari

Sulu Adana

Superhot Cross, Yellow

Tabasco

Tepin x Lemon Drop

Thai, Large Orange

Trinidad Beans

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red

Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Butch T

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red

Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow

Trinidad Scorpion Sweet

Trinidad Scorpion, Chocolate

Unidentified Brain Strain Cross, Red

Wiri Wiri

Xalapa

Yalova Charleston

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I've got a 3 shelf, 70"x48"x24" unit as my main indoor system. Being in North Carolina, I can put plants into the ground in mid-April. I've got other shelves to use when needed.
 
INTRO
I coach high school Cross Country & Track.
I teach AP Psychology. People say psychology majors are the people who need help the most. I was a History major, but people who spend a lot of time thinking about psychology may self-diagnose at times. Maybe. No one's ever told me I'm OCD. I'm super messy, but I do have a major "all or nothing" theme in my life. I run 100 mile races. I haven't washed my car or had it washed since 1991. I only wear 3 colors of shirts- black, navy & green (& only green because it's a school color). Maybe I have a problem. :) Why would peppers be any different?
 
I've always had gardens of some size- even if just 6-8 tomato plants & a couple of squash. In 2014, I expanded my garden exponentially. Still have a lot of fall/winter crops. I've never grown peppers or tomatoes from seed & only grew jalapenos, habaneros, bells, cayenne & tabasco. In mid-October, I only had 5 varieties of pepper seeds. Two months, later, I have 220, thanks to stumbling across this site & benefiting from the generosity of the folks on this site. Expanded my seed stockpile through giveaways, trades, harvesting from pods, and buying just a few. Incredibly generosity here. I've paid forward some of that, though my stock is limited to 5-10 seeds for most varieties minus what I have or will grow this season.
 
I've had a ton of questions & I've made a lot of mistakes so far. Hopefully this will evolve into more of voice of experience in a few months, but now, I suppose the glog is more a consolidation of advice seeking.
 
HISTORY TO DATE
The plan is to plant a total of six 1020 flats with 48 cells in each & to spread it out roughtly a month apart- two Nov. 1, two Dec. 1 & two Jan. 1.
 
I started germinating some seeds in bags October 26 but followed up 10 days later with seeds in soil. I didn't notice a difference in germination rates or speed between the two methods so I won't use bags in the future. I was a little impatient with germination, but after planting 2 seeds in each of 96 cells, I ended up with 88 seeds that popped. Not quite 50%, but it's a learning process. Almost all of the last set of seeds I planted sprouted. Problems were:
* Planted too deep
* Compacted soil too much
* Not ideal mix of soil. Used a mix of 3 store bought mixes with added Vermiculite. The one I used most heavily had too much mulchy compost. Have since improved with finer soil & Perlite.
* Temperature wasn't that consistent early on. 
 
I have all of that worked out for later germination.
 
I will complete the last of the 2nd wave of planting this week. 
 
OTHER PROBLEMS
BUGS
About 3 weeks ago, I came home to little tiny orange bugs on the underside of the cotyledons & tiny gray flying bugs- fewer of the gray ones. I sprayed insecticidal soap and the orange guys didn't last long. The tiny gray ones are still around but not in great numbers. I see one flying around a few times a day. 
 
YELLOWING
I've had about 6-8 seedlings die after yellowing. I'm positive I overwatered a little early. Last week, nearly ALL of my seedlings were looking a little yellow. I have watered very sparingly in the past 3-4 weeks. Every couple of days, some shrivel up & I give them a tiny bit of water. A few hours later, they bounce back. Besides that, I haven't really watered in the past 2 weeks. I changed my lighting around 3 days ago & have seen some changes... Was using one set of two 4" T8 lights with two 23w/1600 lumen CFLs on a clip & one 65w/950 lumen light for some heat. T8s were probably too far from the plants- maybe 16". 3 days ago, I added a second T8 fixture & ditched the other lights. I dropped the T8s to about 6" from the plants. The leaves seemed to have darken up a bit in the 3 days since. Today, I added some reflective insulation. I've had the lights on 18 hours/day. Temps have been a steady 82 degrees when they're on & 70 when they're off.
 
 
LIGHT BURN?
One of the reasons I got rid of the CFLs is because I couldn't put them anywhere except very close to the plants & noticed some darkened leaves in places where I left a CFL for several hours. Since then & since putting the four T8s on them 3 days ago, I've seen some dark spots form on the leaves that I don't remember being there before. 
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Sorry you'll have to tilt your head. Several leaves are spotty like this after moving T8s down to about 5-6" from seedlings. A few were very dark after being very close to CFLs.
NO REAL LEAVES YET??
I only have ONE seedling with anything but cotyledons. That one has had it for 2 weeks but hasn't really grown since. There are a few other seedlings that are developing other leaves but they haven't fully developed yet. Should this be a concern since some of these seedlings sprouted a month ago?
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My only true leaves. Notice leaves aren't very dark. Yellow Fatalii.      Yellow daying seedlings. About 6-8 have died.
 
I know this is a wordy post but just trying to establish some background.
Seeds started between October 26-November 7 that sprouted & are still alive:
7 Pot Primo, Red
7 Pot White
Aji Pineapple
Bahamian Goat
Bhut Jolokia, Peach
CGN 21500
Cinnamon Bell
Datil
Fatalii, Black
Fatalii, Chocolate
Fatalii, White
Fatalii, Yellow
Habanero, Galapagos- Isabel
Habanero, White Bullet
Peach Wasp
Rainforest
Rocoto, Red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA red
Scotch Bonnet, MoA yellow
Thai, Large Orange
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Brown
Trinidad Scorpion Sweet
 
Seeds started between December 2-8. A few more planned this week & then a 3rd wave around January 1.
7 Pot Bubblegum, Red
7 Pot Chaguanas
7 Pot Jonah x PN, F3
7 Pot Jonah, Red
Aji Amarillo
Aji Bolivian Long
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Colorado
Aji Lemon Drop
Aji Melocoton
Bad Brains
Bhut Jolokia, Red
Carolina Reaper
Dystopia (7 Pot Bubblegum variant)
Fatalii, Peach
Goronong
Habanero, Black
Habanero, Bolivian Bumpy Yellow
Habanero, Chocolate
Habanero, Mustard Lightning
Habanero, Paper Lantern
Habanero, Pastel Orange
Habanero, Peach
Jalapeno, Biker Billy
Jalapeno, Early
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion
Manzano, Yellow
Pimenta Leopard
Red Savina x Fatalii Red
Red Savina x Fatalii Yellow
Scotch Bonnet x 7 Pot Jonah yellow
Scotch Bonnet, Chocolate
Star of Turkey
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion, Red
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Red
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI, Yellow
Yellow Jal x 7 Pot Bubblegum
 
Still working on the list for the last 35 or so varieties. Most annuums will go in the last round of planting.
 
coachspencerxc said:
So, with a 6" plant (bell even), I'd be better off taking the flower off & letting it work on becoming a bigger plant that putting its energy into making fruit, right? 98% that's the right thing to do, but hard to bring myself to do it.
Yes. I would pull that blossom. I normally pull everything for a few weeks even after final planting. I have had times where it stunted the plant and at end of year have a runt that produce nothing.
 
I try to remove flowers. Sometimes toward the end of pot season they get ahead of me.
I would consider topping that 6" bell at this stage of winter.
 
With this many varieties, I would make a planting map for backup for reference.
And to label, consider using a 24" wood slat (I use seasoned bamboo) and a paint marker. Sharpie on a plastic knife tends to fade, plus it gets old crawling on your hands and knees looking for labels in August. You've got a grow of biblical proportions that can get away from you without good labeling.
 
jcw10tc said:
Yes. I would pull that blossom. I normally pull everything for a few weeks even after final planting. I have had times where it stunted the plant and at end of year have a runt that produce nothing.
Just the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
 
JJJessee said:
I try to remove flowers. Sometimes toward the end of pot season they get ahead of me.
I would consider topping that 6" bell at this stage of winter.
 
With this many varieties, I would make a planting map for backup for reference.
And to label, consider using a 24" wood slat (I use seasoned bamboo) and a paint marker. Sharpie on a plastic knife tends to fade, plus it gets old crawling on your hands and knees looking for labels in August. You've got a grow of biblical proportions that can get away from you without good labeling.
Good advice. Maybe paint stirrers or the like for labeling? 
 
wood will soak up water and wash out the lettering. 
Vinyl / aluminium blinds if you can find some scrap ones. 
or you can just get some marking tape for like 3$ at home depot and sharpie a piece and tie it to the stem(haven't tried this out yet).
 
On the plants being big already... yeah you will probably have to top them, u still got 3 months to go lol....
 
thats one helluva list you got there coach. Very impressive! I agree with jcw, its best to pull the blossom, the plant may be starting to get root bound so you can either continue to pull flowers or repost in a larger vessel and it should go back to plant growth vs production.
 
juanitos said:
hey, your inbox is full i wanted to ask u something about the databaze
Whoops. I cleared some room. Fire away.

I may need to pick your brain about pruning. I have 250 bushes in my house that look nothing like your plants but I'm too afraid to thin em out. I'll post pictures soon.
 
coachspencerxc said:
Whoops. I cleared some room. Fire away.

I may need to pick your brain about pruning. I have 250 bushes in my house that look nothing like your plants but I'm too afraid to thin em out. I'll post pictures soon.
lol nice.. can't wait to see the jungle
 
Red Rocoto. Is this right? Getting tall. Noticed it drooping almost everyday so increased the water a little & pulled it out of the direct light. Has been getting maybe 5 hours of CFL light- but off to the side a little & spends the daylight hours in a window. Is it getting leggy because of the lack of light or is this normal growth? I have 2 more Red Rocotos & 1 Orange Rocoto that are much more compact & I never made me think they needed special light & water considerations. This weekend I need to divide up the few pubescens, the annuums & the baccatums I have & put them in their own trays. They seem to like much more water than the chinenses.
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Leaves at the bottom of this guy are constantly wilty. That is not a brown spot on one of leaves halfway up as it appears. A lot of my chinenses are getting top heavy & tipping over a little. I'm going to have to put in some work very soon to give them mini stakes of some kind & thin out the trays a bit. The chinenses in particular are bushy & difficult to move without getting their leaves tangled with other plants.
 
Dip the tops of paint stirs in white paint suitable for outdoors first. My dad did this in his garden last year. Didn't loose a single one either unlike the smaller tags that like to disappear by end of year. 
 
Early Jalapeno:
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My largest 40 or so chinenses are the size of this Black Fatalii. I also have a smaller batch, an even smaller batch & about 24 seeds waiting to sprout.
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My only plant that looks truly messed up. Ditch it? Brazilian Ghost.
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The next two are an Aji Pineapple & a Peach Bhut Jolokia. I think both are in need of some topping & pruning but I can't bear to "mess up" what I (& they) have worked so hard for. I know it needs to be done. This weekend maybe, after I get some advice & read up on what to do. Incidentally, these plants were pulled from the trays & out of the direct light. They get more light than they are in these pictures. So I don't trip circuits, I have eight 1020 trays in one room & five more in another. I need to transplant a few into 3.5" pots this weekend & in 3 weeks, I'll have sixteen trays filled. I just hope I can keep them there before I plant into the ground April 15ish. I have 100 3 gallon bags I was planning on using but but hope I don't have to use all. 
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Yes Coach, at this point you want plants to get stronger with leaf and root production. I would pinch off flower buds and even pinch off tips (after 4-5 sets of leaves) to encourage more side branching. There will be plenty of growing season once you plant them in their final spot.
 
The rocoto is probably fine, or at least my manzanos always look like that. Yeah he's leggy, but nobody's perfect. 
Those taller one's could be topped. The starfish has a lot of suckers which is good since the top is weird(might be worth checking for mites with a lense).
The plants are growing like WEEEEEEDS! Good Job.
 
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