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DesertChris' High Desert Extreme Gardening Glog

Hi everyone,
This is my grow log in the super windy, super hot, sometimes way too cold, rabbit and squirrel infested High Desert of Southern California.

In addition, My gardening has to be done on a super tight budget, so lots of stuff is recycled or repurposed for gardening use...LOL

I'll update my grow list as I add to it.

We have 3 garden areas that we will be using this year. (one last year, and 2 more I am preparing)


Most of the Peppers are already either Plants, Seedlings or in the germ trays :)
Tomatoes, Tomatillos and Eggplants are Seedlings or Germinating...

Special Thanks to "StupidJerk", "Pulpiteer", "Meinchoh", "AjiJoe" and "wayright" for kindly sharing so many wonderful seeds/varieties with me, and expanding my growlist!!
I will add details of where seeds came from when I get some more time :)

[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]In Parenthesis is the seed source (and I know some of these came from other kind folks who sent them to these kind folks)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]SJ = StupidJerk[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]PL = Pepperlover.com[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]PJ = PepperJoe[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]OW = Overwinter[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Canadian Express = GhostPowder.com[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Terroir = Underwoodgardens.com[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]American Seed = American Seed Pouches from wallyworld[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Fatalli.net[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Other Sources are usernames here [/background] :)

GROWLIST
HOTS:
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]AjiJoe Surprise (maybe maui purple or purple peru??) (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]AjiJoe Surprise Hot Mix (AjiJoe)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Anaheim (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Banana (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Birgit's Locato (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Cobra (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Pearl (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Prince (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Bhut Jolokia India Carbon (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Bih Jolokia (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Brown Bhuts (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Chocolate Bhut (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Giant Bhut (red) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Yellow Bhuts (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Orange Bhuts (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Peach Bhuts (AjiJoe)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Purple Bhuts (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Red Bhuts (meinchoh)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Red Bhuts (PL)[/background]
Red Bhuts (Canadian Express)
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]White Bhuts (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Bolivian Rainbow (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Carolina Reaper (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Cayenne (1) (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Cayenne (2) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Charleston (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Chili de Arbol (Dried Store Pods)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Datil (1) (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Datil (2) (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Fatalii (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Fatalii Gourmet Jigsaw (Fatalii.net)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Floral Gem (Home and Garden Show)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Fresno (1) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Fresno (2) (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Chocolate Habanero (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mustard Habanero (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mystery Red Habanero (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Orange Habanero (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Orange Habanero (From Pods Last Year)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Ramon's Jamaican Habanero (Walkgood)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Tazmanian Habanero (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]White Habanero (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Jalapeno (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Jalapeno (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Purple Jalapeno (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mexican Jalapeno (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]PepperJoe Jalapeno (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Jamaican Hot Chocolate (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Jamaican Pepper Red (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Kung Pao ( PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mystery Red Annum (came in a flat of bell peppers) (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Naga Viper (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Naranga (Fatalii.net)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Orange Manzano (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Pasilla (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Pepperoncini (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Poblano (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Pequin (Dried Store Pods)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Purple Maui (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Red Savina (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Sapporo (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Sante Fe Grande (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Scotch Bonnet (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Scotch Bonnet (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Serrano (1) (OW)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Serrano (2) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Serrano (3) (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Serrano (4) (American Seed)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Serrano (5) (Home and Garden Show)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Douglah (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Jonah (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Primo (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Red Brainstrain (SJ)[/background]
7 Pot Red Brainstrain (Pulpiteer)
7 Pot Yellow (Pulpiteer)
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Yellow BrainStrain (PL)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]7 Pot Yellow BrainStrain (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Takanotsume (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Tepin (1) (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Tepin (2) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Thai (1) (Farmers Market)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Thai Sun (2) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Thai (3) (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Tobago Seasoning (Wayright)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Trinidad Perfume (Fatalii.net)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]TS Butch T (1) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]TS Butch T (2) (SJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]TS Moruga (red) (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Wild Brazil (AjiJoe)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Yatsufusa (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Yellow Trinidad Congo (SJ)[/background]

SWEETS:
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Chinese Giant (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Chocolate Bell (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Corno di Toro Giallo (yellow) (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Corno di Toro Rossa (red) (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Golden Marconi (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Grand Bell Mix (American Seed)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Melrose (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Orange Bell (From A Store Pod)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Keystone (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]King of the North (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mini Bell Mix (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Sweet Crimson (PJ)[/background]

Tomatoes:
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Amish Paste (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Brandywine (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Plum (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Black Zebra Cherry (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Cherry Roma (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Cosmonot Volkov (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Giant Syrian (PJ)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Honkin' Big Black Cherry(Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Mortgage Lifter (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Oregon Spring (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Principe Borghese (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]San Marzano (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Speckled Roman (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Yellow Pear (Terroir)[/background]
[background=rgb(255, 244, 228)]Wild Galapagos (Terroir)[/background]

Tomatillos:
Tomatillo Verde

Eggplant:
Listada de Gandia (white)

Herbs:
Rosemary
English Broadleaf Thyme
Sweet Basil
Garden Sage
Mullein
Thai Basil
Marseilles Basil
Cilantro
True Greek Oregono
Parsley
Giant of Italy Parsley
Dukat Dill
East Indian Lemongrass
Mint
Pepppermint
Spearmint

Onions/Leeks/Kohlrabi:
Crystal White Wax Onion
Walla Walla Onion
Yellow Sweet Spanish Utah Onion
Evergreen Bunching Onion
Peking Green Kohlrabi
Giant Musselburg Leek

Lettuce/Greens:
Romaine Lettuce
Salad Bowl Mixed Lettuce
Terroir Seeds Blend Lettuce
Mesclun Medley Lettuce
Jericho Lettuce
Little Gem Lettuce
Sainte Anne's Slow Bolting Lettuce
Agretti
Vates Blue Curled Kale
Rainbow Swiss Chard
Spinach-Beet Greens Swiss Chard
Red Aztec Spinach
Garden Cess
Spicy Greens Mix

Carrots/Radishes:
Yellowstone Carrot
Cosmic Purple Carrot
Easter Egg Blend Radish
Japanese Minowase Winter Radish

Grains/Etc:
Mennonite Sorghum
Faro Quinoa
Teff
Golden Flax

Turnips/Beats:
Purple Top White Globe Turnip (Sown and Germinated already)
Detroit Dark Red Beet

Beans/Peas:
Black Valentine Bean
Rattlesnack Bean
Henderson Lima Bean
Kala Chana Garbanzo Bean
Lazy Housewife Bean
Lincoln Pea
Telephone Pea
Oregon Giant Sugar Pod Snow Pea
Mammoth Melting Snow Pea (tried a couple times starting back in November, so we'll see if any make it)

Melons/Squash/Pumpkin/Cucumber/Berry/Etc:
Wonderberry-Sunberry
Vine Peach-Mango Melon
Golden Beauty Casaba Melon
Prescott Fond Blanc Melon
Sugar Baby Watermelon
Golden Midget Watermelon
Jack Be Little Pumpkin
Gele Reuzen Pumpkin
Jarrahdale Pumpkin
Lumina Pumpkin
Connecticut Field Pumpkin
Spaghetti Squash
Table Queen Bush Acorn Squash
Waltham Butternut Squash
Bergess Buttercup Squash
Poona Kheera Cucumber
Everbearing SMR-58 Cucumber
Boston Pickling Cucumber


Thanks for looking,
Chris
 
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DesertChris said:
The windmill has a huge permit fee...in the thousands of $$ :(
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Build a scoop to funnel the wind to a ground-level enclosure containing a turbine and call it a kinetic energy extraction device. Not a windmill, doesn't need a windmill permit. From your description of the wind up there, it sounds like even the scoop could be ground-level.

Pulpiteer said:
As I grow more libertarian leaning this stuff just drives me nuts. Regulations getting in the way of your trying to be a good steward and less of a strain on the environment. I imagine a windmill itself would be cost prohibitive though. Those things have to cost a bit....
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It's all about control.
 
Pulpiteer said:
As I grow more libertarian leaning this stuff just drives me nuts. Regulations getting in the way of your trying to be a good steward and less of a strain on the environment. I imagine a windmill itself would be cost prohibitive though. Those things have to cost a bit....
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I looked at them once (commercially available windmill) Dang those things were expensive. They must have made some of the internal parts out of gold or platinum....lol
I think with permits it was in the $25,000 range.
Our electric bill ranges from $30-100 a month, so I don't think it would be cost effective even in the long term :(


Sawyer said:
Build a scoop to funnel the wind to a ground-level enclosure containing a turbine and call it a kinetic energy extraction device. Not a windmill, doesn't need a windmill permit. From your description of the wind up there, it sounds like even the scoop could be ground-level.



It's all about control.
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Someone in.the middle of town has a wind powered generating device of strange design in their backyard. It looks like an upright rotating cylinder shape, with 3 panels solid, and 3 panels as a gap. maybe 20' tall No Blades on it, so it isn't a windmill.

I could build a windmill way cheaper than buying one.
Shoot, I could design one with a bunch of research involved.

Hahahaha, I like the ground level reverse turbine idea! It gets pretty crazy windy on the ground level too!!

And yes, it is all about control....of resources....and $$ harvesting by the county.


When I was going to college, I met a fellow who had set his place up nicely.
Homemade windmill, Small hydro setup on the stream running through his place, and some solar panels.
The electric company had to write him a check every month!! LOL
 
If you can find a way to generate the electricity they do have to buy it back, at least here in Tejas.

But the cost to setup is crazy, I have the wind but the windmill is mega $$$ and the return just takes too long.

OK here's a challenge, how can we do this on the cheap?
 
Devv said:
If you can find a way to generate the electricity they do have to buy it back, at least here in Tejas.

But the cost to setup is crazy, I have the wind but the windmill is mega $$$ and the return just takes too long.

OK here's a challenge, how can we do this on the cheap?
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Shouldn't be too difficult, a set of blades, a generator, a power converter......

It has been howling wind for a couple days straight here....couple days more forecasted :(
The Wind Advisory said 60+ mph gusts.....but it has been 60+ mph constantly :(
 
DesertChris said:
Shouldn't be too difficult, a set of blades, a generator, a power converter......

It has been howling wind for a couple days straight here....couple days more forecasted :(
The Wind Advisory said 60+ mph gusts.....but it has been 60+ mph constantly :(
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I can do a lot of things but design an AC electrical system...I would need plans to go from..

Fork those 60+ winds!

Gonna be a rough year if that continues...
 
Sawyer said:
Speaking of surprises, do we know what's in the AjiJoe Surprise Hot Mix? I'm getting some pretty good germination from those, too, even though they are a year old and were exposed to 100+ temperatures last summer.

Edit: typo
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I don't know what mine are, but they look different from one another. They are still small and I am seeing more and more differences as they grow. I should number them so I can go back and see how the development has progressed over time. I got good germ rates also.

1200 plants! My family already thinks I am nuts with 100+. They don't know that number can go much higher. Ha ha. It's addicting seeing how many can pop up over night.

Michelle
 
Chaosbites said:
I don't know what mine are, but they look different from one another. They are still small and I am seeing more and more differences as they grow. I should number them so I can go back and see how the development has progressed over time. I got good germ rates also.

1200 plants! My family already thinks I am nuts with 100+. They don't know that number can go much higher. Ha ha. It's addicting seeing how many can pop up over night.

Michelle
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Oh....My family thinks I am crazy...lol
The other day the daughter said "wow, you eat peppers on everything"

Yep, it wasn't hard to go from 100 to 1200....hahahaha
We'll see how many survive into adult plants :)

Devv said:
I can do a lot of things but design an AC electrical system...I would need plans to go from..

Fork those 60+ winds!

Gonna be a rough year if that continues...
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Yep, I am sick of this wind :(
Luckily it isn't like this ALL the time....lol
But it is pretty hard on the eyes.
Plus the animals out back still want to be fed, even if it is too windy out there :)

Right now, I am babysitting the neighbors' kids, while my gal and them are in town running errands.
Later when I get home, I think I'll google homemade windmills :)
Do you think the county would allow a giant Dutch style one? Bwahahahahahahaha
Combination electricity generator and pepper powder mill....lol
 
Yeah, the web is chock full of sites dedicated to home-built wind power.

Outside of city limits around here, we're pretty much like Scott (Devv) down there in Texas, mineral rights, water rights, few restrictions. Some folks sold their mineral rights during the recent hullabaloo over the Fayetteville shale play. Foolish thing to do, in my opinion, since they could have leased the rights and had long-term continuing income. Or kept their rights altogether and drilled their own gas well. There are a number of private gas wells around here. Wish I had one; then I could heat a greenhouse and grow peppers year round. :dance:
 
Just transplanted more from the germ trays into cups. Wjile watching NASCAR on the back porch :)

New total 1151 peppers...... plants/seedlings/hooks

And after 18 days, still zero germination on pepperlover chocolate bhuts :(

A few current photos :)

Best looking plant. A Butch T

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And the worst looking plant...lol.... A Moruga....It didn't like the poor drainage from the garden dirt in a pot test...at all...
Hopefully it likes the potting soil it is now living in....

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The potting table full of boxes of seedlings etc...

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More....

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More....

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More..... Including "Spitfire" the infamous leaf pruning Springer Spaniel eyeing a leaf he thinks needs pruning......

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DocNrock said:
Looking great, Chris! Love the Springer Spaniel!
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Thanks Doc :)
I have 8 Springer Buddies. We used to love going bird hunting, until my gal banned us from killing birds.
Now we just hunt tennis balls....lol

Here are 6 of the 8 :) When I get home from babysitting the neighbor kids, i'll post photos of Squishy and Kissyface (no good photos of those 2 in my phone :( )

"Spitfire --- Spitfire Tornadoface Murphy

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"Aurora" --- Aurora Pokeyface Quailchase

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"Nigel" --- Nigel The Barbarian

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"Maggie" --- Margaret Foodmonster Murphy

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"Galoot" --- The Big Galoot

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"Nick" --- Nick Snickerdoodle Mulloy

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Hell of a dog pack you have! I bet they have a great time together. It's a shame about the permit fees for wind turbines in your county. I always see cali as being on the forefront of green energy too. The state should step in and fix this BS. I think you can offset the costs somewhat with tax incentives too but not until they lift that crazy permit fee. Good luck bro. Wish you many pods this year!
 
Dshlogg said:
Hell of a dog pack you have! I bet they have a great time together. It's a shame about the permit fees for wind turbines in your county. I always see cali as being on the forefront of green energy too. The state should step in and fix this BS. I think you can offset the costs somewhat with tax incentives too but not until they lift that crazy permit fee. Good luck bro. Wish you many pods this year!
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Thank You :)

Yep, that is why when the twins graduate in 2 more years, we want to head on out of here, and find somewhere with more green plants and water :) We have been eyeing the South, perhaps Georgia, Florida etc....

Oh, and of course most other places have a much lower cost of living than California too...added bonus to relocating :)
 
DesertChris said:
Thanks Scott :)

Yep, I am definately hoping for no freezing weather!!!!

We might be safe, but I am definately afraid to put any of them into the ground yet...lol
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It's crazy how much difference a few miles and a few feet of elevation can make. We're in the same county and I've been out of frost danger for a month.

I'm thinking that with your pepper addiction that a move to Florida makes the most sense. You'll probably be able to get a big chunk of land if you buy a place for the same price as what you're selling.
 
StupidJerk said:
It's crazy how much difference a few miles and a few feet of elevation can make. We're in the same county and I've been out of frost danger for a month.

I'm thinking that with your pepper addiction that a move to Florida makes the most sense. You'll probably be able to get a big chunk of land if you buy a place for the same price as what you're selling.
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It is nutty....down where you are it is much nicer weather!!

We had to walk away from our house a couple years ago, after the economy crashed, and both of our incomes plummeted.
This house is our friend's, and he asked if we wanted to rent it.

Hopefully when we do move, we will have recovered enough to buy again.

And now for the horror story of the day......

I was babysitting the kids next door.
My gal calls and says you better get over here.
So she comes over to take care of the kids while I go home.

It looked like a freaking bomb went off on the pottimg table :(
One of my dogs....the youngest one (2 year old) had jumped on the table full of pepper seedlings, and pepper stomped his way from one side to the other :(

The casualties weren't actually too bad. Maybe a dozen were slain outright.
The next couple days will be crucial, but I don't see there being any more than 50 fatalities in the next few days.
Most were knocked over/stepped on, but the seedlimgs were pretty intact.

I had some pretty awesome tomato seedlings on that table, and he cruised right through them.
There will be some fatalities there, since some of the toms looked snapped in half.
I will know more in the morning, and can see them in the daylight.....

Darn dog......
 
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