DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

Rapid Rooters:

Soil:

Let the waiting game begin!:

Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!

 

[Lavatung]

Eew your soaking Paul's pubes.
Jokes aside, your plants are sweet man. Pods already? Good on ya!

 

[HillBilly Jeff]

Your grow is looking amazing

 

[3/5King]

DnR....what the hell man...you had to go and get 6 pages deep on me didnt you..hahaha just bustin' your chops!

Love the green house. Love the pickup bed OW's. Love the greenhouse...oh did I say that already?..yes I did because I am jealous..lol you keep it nice and tidy.

Hope you get those A-holes under control. Nice start to 2013 buddy!

 

[WalkGood]

Captain I see pods! Great job, remarkable grow ^_^

 

[DocNrock]

I put them seeds in the mail today bud!

Thanks Bro! That's awesome. Anything else you need?

Eew your soaking Paul's pubes.
Jokes aside, your plants are sweet man. Pods already? Good on ya!

Hahaha! Thanks for stopping in, man. Your pods are looking great!

Your grow is looking amazing

Thanks Bodeen, and thank you for stopping in. Hoping the Root Riots do the trick for you!

DnR....what the hell man...you had to go and get 6 pages deep on me didnt you..hahaha just bustin' your chops!

Love the green house. Love the pickup bed OW's. Love the greenhouse...oh did I say that already?..yes I did because I am jealous..lol you keep it nice and tidy.

Hope you get those A-holes under control. Nice start to 2013 buddy!

Thanks 3/5K! I just had to overcompensate. Started my 2012 grow at the bright and early beginning of July, so 2013 I started mid October, lol. I could not have done that without the little g-house. Mid February can't come soon enough. It's full in there! The aphids will die...one way or another. Thanks for stopping in, bud!

Captain I see pods! Great job, remarkable grow ^_^

Thank you, Ramon. I'm wondering if one will ripen in the g-house before mid February.

 

[DocNrock]

Got a nice little mini-harvest from my "overwinters" that I've been growing since July of 2012:

Goronong - Anaheim (first one!) - tiny TSMB that ripened on a plant that died from our last frost.

Gotta say, I love the Anaheim. The flesh of the pod was sweet, fruity, and juicy. It had zero heat except in the placenta, which had Jalapeno-level heat. The little TSMB's were about habanero-heat. Interestingly, they had no seeds.

Baby Brains:

These plants were grown in 2 gallon pots so they are a bit stunted. These were the first pods off of the plants. Funny, they had no seeds, either. They also had hab-level heat.

Finally, think I figured out what my not-Datil is. One finally ripened. I had planted Aji Dulce seeds at the same time and I think I got the tags mixed up. The pod is very sweet, fruity, and juicy (more so than the Anaheim above) and had zero heat, even in the placenta. Funny thing, it had little black specks where seeds should have been. It's like they arrested their development very early on.

 

[Jamison]

Fresh peps, must be nice Doc! Lookin good tho bud!

 

[stc3248]

First and winter pods are commonly undersized, few seeds or seedless and kinda wonky shaped. Not to worry buddy. Once the temps warm up and the sun is over our hemisphere they'll grow up to be just as terrible as they're supposed to.

Your seeds are in the mailbox, and should be there Monday/Tuesday. One of the HP22B popped this morning!

 

[Stefan_W]

Man, I love the look of fresh peppers in the middle of winter! Way to go!

How do you find the heat/flavbour of the TMSB? I was just about to start some more seeds and they are on the bubble right now.

 

[WalkGood]

Brent, grand harvest mon! Now don’t hate me for saying but thank Jah you didn’t post pic’s of food edibles as I’m starving and would have quickly gone without posting Great pics as always and very nice read … keep up da great work Doc BTW I love the look of the small TSMB and Baby Brains, beautiful color on them. Wish I had 3 or 4 for topping off a few superbowl hot dips I made this morning, they would be da bomb IMHO. I still just using the tiny little Thai Hot pods for that … thanks for all you post as I for one truly enjoy ^_^

 

[stickman]

Hi Doc
What do the cili goroning taste like? Just because the "baby brains" are small doesn't mean they can't hurt you...

 

[DocNrock]

Fresh peps, must be nice Doc! Lookin good tho bud!

Thanks, Jamison! There's a reason I live in Cali...and it ain't the income tax!

First and winter pods are commonly undersized, few seeds or seedless and kinda wonky shaped. Not to worry buddy. Once the temps warm up and the sun is over our hemisphere they'll grow up to be just as terrible as they're supposed to.

Your seeds are in the mailbox, and should be there Monday/Tuesday. One of the HP22B popped this morning!

Awesome news on the Reaper! Really looking forward to growing a DT White...not the least of which is that none of the seeds I have sowed to date have popped. I up-potted those plants today so they will have the opportunity to be big and bad come springtime. BTW, I measured the Wally bags today. I'll post pics tomorrow but they look to be about 7 or more gallons!

Man, I love the look of fresh peppers in the middle of winter! Way to go!

How do you find the heat/flavbour of the TMSB? I was just about to start some more seeds and they are on the bubble right now.

Love the TSMB. These are not a good representation. I bought some pods last year and they were deadly and tasty. Really looking forward to growing out some that are everything they can be!

Brent, grand harvest mon! Now don’t hate me for saying but thank Jah you didn’t post pic’s of food edibles as I’m starving and would have quickly gone without posting Great pics as always and very nice read … keep up da great work Doc BTW I love the look of the small TSMB and Baby Brains, beautiful color on them. Wish I had 3 or 4 for topping off a few superbowl hot dips I made this morning, they would be da bomb IMHO. I still just using the tiny little Thai Hot pods for that … thanks for all you post as I for one truly enjoy ^_^

Dude, I could never hate you. Thanks for stopping in. Gotta love Thai pods. Very versatile.

Hi Doc
What do the cili goroning taste like? Just because the "baby brains" are small doesn't mean they can't hurt you...

I was cautious with the first taste of the baby Brains. I cut one in half and just touched my tongue to the placenta. Hab-like heat. It's all good. They are up-potted and hopefully come spring they will take off and make "papa Brains!" The Goronong has had some heat, but more like a Jalap. The flavor is very different than a Jalap, however. It is hard to describe. They would be good in a salad.

I'm working on a final grow list. Below is what I took inventory of today, and I will update this tomorrow to be my current grow list.

7 Pot Barrackpore
7 Pot Red Brain
7 Pot Yellow Brain
7 Pot Brown
7 Pot Burgundy
7 Pot Chiguanas
7 Pot Congo SR Gigantic
7 Pot Douglah
7 Pot Jonah
7 Pot Jonah, Billy Boy
7 Pot Madballz
7 Pot Orange
7 Pot White
7 Pot Yellow
Aji Dulce
Aji Omnicolor
Aji Panca
Aji Pineapple
Aji Yellow
Anaheim
Aribibi Gusanito
Armageddon F2
Assam
"Arboretum" (not Trin. Scorp)
Bahamian Goat
Bali Naga
Bell, Chocolate
Bell, Purple
Bell, Red
Bell, Yellow
Beni Highlands
Bih Jolokia
Bird's Eye Hot
Bishop's Crown
Bhut, Chocolate
Bhut, Peach
Bhut, Red
Bhut, Yellow
Bhut, White
Big Jim
Black Stinger
Blonde
Cayenne, Golden
Chacoense
Chenzo
Chinese 5-Color
"Chocolate mystery pepper"
Datil
Devil's Tongue Red
Devil's Tongue White (soon!)
Fatalii
Fresno
Goat Horn
Gochu, Andy F1 Hybrid
Gochu, Korean Winner Hybrid
Goronong
Habanero, Australian Lantern
Habanero, Black
Habanero, Caribbean Red
Habanero, Chocolate
Habanero, Giant White
Habanero, Jamaican Hot Chocolate
Habanero, Long Chocolate
Habanero, Mustard
Habanero, Pointed Yellow
Habanero, Peach
Habanero, Red Congo
Habanero, White Bulllet
Hablokia, Yellow
HP22B
Hawaiian Sweet Hot
Jalapeno
Jalapeno "Cracked"
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion
Kapija (seed sown)
Naga, Black
Naga, Dorset
Naga Morich
Nhu's Pepper
Paprika
Pasilla Bajio
Peppadew, Malawi
Peter Pepper
PI281317
Pimenta de Neyde
Prik Kee Nu Suan (seed to be sown Feb 15)
Primo
Rapires F1
Rocoto, Orange (seed sown)
Rocoto, Red
Rocoto, Yellow (seed sown)
Royal Black
Scotch Bonnet TFM
Scotch Bonnet, Yellow
Sepia Serpent F4
Serrano
Thai Dragon
Trinidad Scorpion
Trinidad Scorpion, Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion, Chocolate
Trinidad Scorpion "FG"
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Blend, Red
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Blend, Yellow
Trinidad Morova
Trinidad Perfume
Trinidad Seasoning
Variegata
Wild Brazil

I think this will keep me busy for the season.

 

[Jamison]

Wow, I thought I was outta control! Spectacular list buddy! Them seeds never came yet eh?

 

[HillBilly Jeff]

What a wonderful looking grow list. It does need a Jimmy in there though. You are going to be too busy to fish this summer!!!

 

[stickman]

I think this will keep me busy for the season.

Ya think?

 

[GA Growhead]

Nice list Brent.
Hope the wht dev tongues come thru. Still no activity here with them.

 

[DocNrock]

Wow, I thought I was outta control! Spectacular list buddy! Them seeds never came yet eh?

Thanks, Jamison. Your post reminded me to check the mail today. WooHoo! They arrived unscathed.

What a wonderful looking grow list. It does need a Jimmy in there though. You are going to be too busy to fish this summer!!!

Thanks Bodeen, and thanks for stopping in. By "Jimmy" do you mean a Jimmy Nardello? Sounds like a great variety, but I'm a bit overextended for the coming year. No plans for a fishing trip this coming summer. But I love your sig line. There is no more quintessential truth in offshore fishing.

Ya think?

Just counted them. How did I get from 64 to 108??? LOL.

Nice list Brent.
Hope the wht dev tongues come thru. Still no activity here with them.

Thanks Jason. Good luck with them!

 

[GA Growhead]

Are you still doing a complete container grow?
108 plants! That's going to be a lot of pots!

 

[DocNrock]

Are you still doing a complete container grow?
108 plants! That's going to be a lot of pots!

Yeah, it's going to be container, but I'm using grow bags and Wally bags! Cheap!

 

[GA Growhead]

Pots ≤ growbags. Hows my math?