DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

Rapid Rooters:

Soil:

Let the waiting game begin!:

Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!

 

[harry]

Jusst thinking his DT White seed might not be quite viable. I've heard of similar issues with some other white varieties, possibly too many recessive genes.

Last season I had no luck getting a different white C.chinense variety to sprout from seed I had saved and seed from the original vendor. I didn't have trouble with the white small jellybean shaped type previously.

 

[stc3248]

Just saw another flog with DTWs that sprouted...now I need to figure out which one for you! Hope I can help u find 'em buddy! Did you contact JR? Might replace them for you???

Found it, sent him a pm about his source. Will let you know if he hits back.

...he just hit me back. He's sending me some seeds then I'll get them to you bro.

 

[DocNrock]

Last season I had no luck getting a different white C.chinense variety to sprout from seed I had saved and seed from the original vendor. I didn't have trouble with the white small jellybean shaped type previously.

Yeah, white is a recessive trait, like an albino. If it is genetically linked to any genes that are required for germination and/or growth, the seed might not be viable. It would depend upon whether the white trait segregated independently from "viability genes."

Just saw another flog with DTWs that sprouted...now I need to figure out which one for you! Hope I can help u find 'em buddy! Did you contact JR? Might replace them for you???

Found it, sent him a pm about his source. Will let you know if he hits back.

...he just hit me back. He's sending me some seeds then I'll get them to you bro.

Dude, that is so awesome of you! Let me know what I can do! Did the BP and/or the HP22B ever pop for you?

 

[GA Growhead]

Sweet! Good news on the hook up!

 

[RocketMan]

Nice, I love how the people on here take care of each other, great connection there Shane. Doc, lookin good. I haven't seen much of the Devils Tongue so i'll be keeping an eye out to see how it goes.

Have a good one,
Bill

 

[Jamison]

Send me a pm buddy. Your inbox must be full.

 

[WalkGood]

Was going to say it’s sad to read about your devil's tongue seeds did not rise up mon but I now read that Shane’s taking care of business, great to read bout dis pepper passion we have!!!

 

[stc3248]

Yeah buddy! He said they'd be in the mail today. I will keep you posted!

One Barrackpore up and running, still waiting on the HP22s I restarted a few more (the rest of them) along with a few other no shows. Seems as though my germ rates are better this round so fingers are crossed! I am certain it was not a seed issue...my setup was a little wonky as I got used to the new grow room. Last year I was in the middle of a transfer and had 30 days leave in route, so I could babysit my starts. This year has been more fire and forget. I work 100 miles up the road and only (usually) come home on weekends. Although, lately I have been finding more reasons to make the trip (which mama has noticed). I try to explain its just because I miss her and the kids...but I get this.

 

[DocNrock]

Sweet! Good news on the hook up!

Nice, I love how the people on here take care of each other, great connection there Shane. Doc, lookin good. I haven't seen much of the Devils Tongue so i'll be keeping an eye out to see how it goes.

Have a good one,
Bill

Send me a pm buddy. Your inbox must be full.

Was going to say it’s sad to read about your devil's tongue seeds did not rise up mon but I now read that Shane’s taking care of business, great to read bout dis pepper passion we have!!!

You guys, and the vast majority of the people on this board, are awesome! Cheers to ya, and thanks for stopping in. PM on the way, Jamison! Will check my inbox.

Yeah buddy! He said they'd be in the mail today. I will keep you posted!

One Barrackpore up and running, still waiting on the HP22s I restarted a few more (the rest of them) along with a few other no shows. Seems as though my germ rates are better this round so fingers are crossed! I am certain it was not a seed issue...my setup was a little wonky as I got used to the new grow room. Last year I was in the middle of a transfer and had 30 days leave in route, so I could babysit my starts. This year has been more fire and forget. I work 100 miles up the road and only (usually) come home on weekends. Although, lately I have been finding more reasons to make the trip (which mama has noticed). I try to explain its just because I miss her and the kids...but I get this.

Hahaha! Mama is pretty smart. Thanks again, bro, much appreciated! Will be watchin' da box! Good luck on the restarts!

 

[Stefan_W]

Nice, I am sure the devil's tongue will do better the next time around.

 

[DocNrock]

Nice, I am sure the devil's tongue will do better the next time around.

Thanks! Here's hoping! The Red DT I have will be ready to up-pot soon, along with a few others.

I was on-call this past weekend, but got off a bit early today. I was in the G-house and had to squish a few more aphids, so I decided to take some update pics.

I haven't really shown the status of my clones that I did. I haven't done nearly as well with them as PaulyG or The King Denniz, but I'm happy to have got what I got...especially since a couple of the plants they were taken from croaked during the last frost. But all of the clones are alive, and all but one are budding and flowering already! Below I've indicated if the mother plant is R.I.P.

TSMB (original plant from RFC, died):

Thai Dragon (original plant from a store, died):

Caribbean Red (original plant from nursery):

Chinese 5-Color (original plant from seed, OROZCONLECHE):

Chenzo (original plant from store):

Bonnie "World's Hottest Habanero" (original plant from Home Depot, died):

Brain Strain (original plant from seed, Baker's Peppers):

Aji Panca (original plant from RFC):

And some overall shots from the greenhouse.

Annuums (mostly):

Chinenses:

Bump for a few more???

 

[stickman]

I'll see your bump Doc...

 

[DocNrock]

I'll see your bump Doc...

You rock, Rick! By the way, just got the Kapija seeds in to soak this evening. Quite generous with the quantity...Thanks! Plan to sow them in the morning. Also have a nice Rapires F1 seedling that is starting to look photogenic. I'll see if I can get it to smile for the camera this weekend!

Now for some more pics. Speaking of this coming weekend, I have some more work to do. The ones that weren't ready to pot up the last time are pretty much there:

That will make room on the shelf for the next round to move out to the g-house:

The front left plant in this crowd is a precocious little Fresno grown from seeds out of a store bought pod:

I have some more pubes soaking tonight (Thanks, PaulG!!!), but I think my Red Rocoto sprout is beginning to realize it is alive!

The Sepia Serpent that was looking pitted on the underside of the leaves has stabilized and putting out a lot of new nodal growth:

Finally, time for an update on a few g-house pods.

Pasilla Bajio:

Jalaps:

Rick! My AF1 Gochu is flowering. The last little pod got dropped. But my backup one in a little cocktail cup is coming along nicely:

Yellow Bells getting bigger:

Same with the Golden Cayenne:

That's it for now. Thanks for stopping in! I'll try to post some more this weekend, as I've got a lot of work to do on these guys!

 

[stc3248]

Yeah Buddy! Some real pro stuff goin on in here! Buds, pods...you know its still January right?

 

[PeriPeri]

Woa! That is amazing. You got pods so soon... man that is totally blown me away. How do you do that? That's like magic voodoo kinda gardening!

 

[stickman]

Most excellent results Doc! I knew I sent the seeds to the right place. Nice pics too. Keep 'em rolling buddy!

 

[DocNrock]

Yeah Buddy! Some real pro stuff goin on in here! Buds, pods...you know its still January right?

Woa! That is amazing. You got pods so soon... man that is totally blown me away. How do you do that? That's like magic voodoo kinda gardening!

Hahaha! You two are funny. I did start these mid-October, ya know!

Most excellent results Doc! I knew I sent the seeds to the right place. Nice pics too. Keep 'em rolling buddy!

Thanks, Rick! I was really surprised when I looked at my tray of backups on the ground and saw a pod on the Andy F1. I couldn't have grown them without you!

 

[megamoo]

They are doing great. Sorry if I missed it but how long before they will get out of the greenhouse? I've got the feeling if its a long time you will have a wall to wall foliage jungle!

 

[DocNrock]

They are doing great. Sorry if I missed it but how long before they will get out of the greenhouse? I've got the feeling if its a long time you will have a wall to wall foliage jungle!

Thanks MM, and thanks for stopping in! Our last frost should be no later than Feb 10, so probably in a couple of weeks!

 

[Jamison]

I put them seeds in the mail today bud!