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DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

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Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

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Rapid Rooters:

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Soil:

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Let the waiting game begin!:

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Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!
 
Outstanding Doc. Keep up the good work. 
 
 
I already think I'll be up to my eyeballs in powder and dried pods by the end of the year with my measly 50 plants, but you have tons and tons more than I do. I hope you have a lot of recipes to try out this year. :D
 
Holy tinkle doc!! Lol. You ate definitely in full swing, and that dehydrator is workin overtime! Does it take longer since you are running like 14 trays?? How long does it take for those to dry??
 
Jeff H said:
Outstanding Doc. Keep up the good work. 
 
 
I already think I'll be up to my eyeballs in powder and dried pods by the end of the year with my measly 50 plants, but you have tons and tons more than I do. I hope you have a lot of recipes to try out this year. :D
Thanks, Jeff.  I don't know if I would call 50 plants "measly."  I would call it just about right.  135 is way too many!  But I wasn't counting on all of them to survive!  Oh well, yes, lots of recipes to try out this year!  Thanks for stopping in!
 
MGOLD86 said:
Holy tinkle doc!! Lol. You ate definitely in full swing, and that dehydrator is workin overtime! Does it take longer since you are running like 14 trays?? How long does it take for those to dry??
 
I previously ran eight and it would take about three days at 115F.  This is the first time with 14.  I've looked a couple of times and it seems like they are drying on the same time course, so we will see.  Thanks for stopping in and for the kind words!
 
Wow. Just wow.
 
I found that the Jimmy Nardellos are not particularly good when they are still green, but taste is always a personal thing and you may not mind it so much. When they are green they are more bitter than an average green bell pepper.
 
The Aribibi Gustanito is also looking great. I have not grown a lot of white peppers, but I remember reading that it is common for them to be more of an off yellow than a true white. 
 
Stefan_W said:
Wow. Just wow.
 
I found that the Jimmy Nardellos are not particularly good when they are still green, but taste is always a personal thing and you may not mind it so much. When they are green they are more bitter than an average green bell pepper.
 
The Aribibi Gustanito is also looking great. I have not grown a lot of white peppers, but I remember reading that it is common for them to be more of an off yellow than a true white. 
 
 
Thanks, Stefan.  I'm blessed with climate.  The only "biblical" weather I get is biblical heat.  Its 100F today and it will rarely get below 95 for the rest of the summer and many days will be over 100.  Chiles like that, it seems. 
 
Thanks for the info on the Jimmys.  I'll give one a try a bit later and see what they are like.  Maybe they would be good cooked in with some bitter greens? 
 
I'm smiling at your comment about the Aribibi.  These aren't off yellow, they're bright yellow.  Sunglasses bright!  :cool:
 
Thanks for stopping in, my friend!
 
Stefan_W said:
 
The Aribibi Gustanito is also looking great. I have not grown a lot of white peppers, but I remember reading that it is common for them to be more of an off yellow than a true white. 
 
Stefan, while I was putting things away, I snapped a pic of the ripe Aribibi Gusanitos. 
 

 
While I was at it, I took a couple of more pics.  Gnarly first pod on one of the Sepia Serpent plants.  The other pods forming have the "normal" phenotype.  Not this one.  :cool:
 

 
My HP22Bs are a flop as far as phenotype goes (so far), but not my Primos: 
 

 
Finally, I took a trip to the 99 Cents Only store.  Occasionally, they have some nice stuff for a buck.  I found eight of these airtight decorative jars.  Perfect for chile powder!  Don't mind the blue tape labels.  One of these days I'll sit down and make some real labels. ;) 
 
 
 
Hope everyone has a great week!
 
Wow......you've got a lot going on. What a grow. Things are shinning in your corner of the world buddy! I can't wait to see some ripe pods!

That Sepia Serpent is devilish....looks sinister and hot as hell!

Awesome selection broski, hope your HP22's straighten their look out.
 
Stefan_W said:
Man, that Sepia is definitely wrinkled up like my pug.
 
Yeah, I guess that is more than a little off white. You never know with pictures and colours, but I can see what you are talking about. 
 
Yeah, that Sepia Serpent scares me.  I haven't cut it yet.  A black hole will open in my house.  ;)
 
I understand what you are saying about pictures and colors.  Trust me when I say that they are actually more yellow than they appear in the pic. 
 
3/5King said:
Wow......you've got a lot going on. What a grow. Things are shinning in your corner of the world buddy! I can't wait to see some ripe pods!

That Sepia Serpent is devilish....looks sinister and hot as hell!

Awesome selection broski, hope your HP22's straighten their look out.
 
Thanks Dave, and thanks for stopping in!  You are going to have ripe pods, and lots of them, soon enough!  In my climate I was lucky enough to be able to start in October, greenhouse it over the winter, then have the plants outdoors fulltime by like mid-February, IIRC.   
 
Nice pull and pod porn Doc. It looks like you've got enough powders to last you until your next harvest and then some. Now that you have powders dialed in, perhaps the next frontier is making sauces?
 
Maybe it's perspective, but it looks like a lot of your pods are coming out smaller... maybe because of the heat?
 
stickman said:
Nice pull and pod porn Doc. It looks like you've got enough powders to last you until your next harvest and then some. Now that you have powders dialed in, perhaps the next frontier is making sauces?
 
Maybe it's perspective, but it looks like a lot of your pods are coming out smaller... maybe because of the heat?
 
Thanks Rick.  I've got a few ideas floating around for sauces, but haven't gotten there just yet.  It is definitely what I have planned for the tiny peppers, like the wilds and such.  Speaking of tiny peppers, there are some that are smaller, but I think those are some of the earlier pods that are just now ripening.  They seem to be mostly seedless, as well.  The unripe pods on those same plants are mostly the expected size. 
 
MisterNo said:
Thanks for the Malawi peppadew plant pic Doc :)
 
Love those Arabibi Gusano pods, I'm growing those first time this season.
 
No problem.  ;)  The AGs are definitely hot and tasty.  The plant has a great decorative stance, as well. 
 
Astounding grow, pulls, pods, powders and dehydrator is  :dance: ambitious! Also, love the OR attire! First time I made a bhut sauce--puree first--I put on snorkel gear (not fins)--other half was "What the hell . . ." and then the aroma hit my beloved, out door, gone a rather long while. Hmm. You did or didn't say you were de-seeding before dehydrating? Yeah, take lid off grinder too soon, or one misstep and uh . . . live/learn. Operative, "live." Beautiful here!!
 
annie57 said:
Astounding grow, pulls, pods, powders and dehydrator is  :dance: ambitious! Also, love the OR attire! First time I made a bhut sauce--puree first--I put on snorkel gear (not fins)--other half was "What the hell . . ." and then the aroma hit my beloved, out door, gone a rather long while. Hmm. You did or didn't say you were de-seeding before dehydrating? Yeah, take lid off grinder too soon, or one misstep and uh . . . live/learn. Operative, "live." Beautiful here!!
 
Thanks for the kind words, Annie.  The pods are deseeded.  A whole lot of work, but worth it in the end.  Yes, the operative word is definitely "live."
 
Great story about your other half.  The first time I tried to make a sauce a similar thing happened to both my wife and me.  "Live/learn" again.  :cool:
 
Thanks for stopping in!
 
Wow Doc Brent a 14 tray dehydrator, amazing … IIRC mine only goes to 12. What temps do you run at for your colors? I vary between 125 for a few hours and then clock it back to 95 for the finishing touch and the red, yellow and greens hold good but I’m always looking for better info to improve my powder.

I have never seen such a bearded leaf or that hairy, is that from the plant or bugs? The white flies here don’t leave that look, more white with little black dots under the white powder. If you let it go too long it turns yellowish with that sappy stuff they produce, I’m on top of them here year round, lot of work :/

Close up shots of pods & quarter are crisp, very nice job! I also love the 99¢ jars, I’ll have to keep an eye out for dem. Funny how you use the tack tape (painters tape) to label stuff, I do the same for long time now, lol.

Everything else looks great mon! Your harvest, pics & powder are kicking it to the point of awesomeness ^_^
 
WalkGood said:
Wow Doc Brent a 14 tray dehydrator, amazing … IIRC mine only goes to 12. What temps do you run at for your colors? I vary between 125 for a few hours and then clock it back to 95 for the finishing touch and the red, yellow and greens hold good but I’m always looking for better info to improve my powder.

I have never seen such a bearded leaf or that hairy, is that from the plant or bugs? The white flies here don’t leave that look, more white with little black dots under the white powder. If you let it go too long it turns yellowish with that sappy stuff they produce, I’m on top of them here year round, lot of work :/

Close up shots of pods & quarter are crisp, very nice job! I also love the 99¢ jars, I’ll have to keep an eye out for dem. Funny how you use the tack tape (painters tape) to label stuff, I do the same for long time now, lol.
Everything else looks great mon! Your harvest, pics & powder are kicking it to the point of awesomeness ^_^
Thanks, Ramon.  The dehydrator I have came with six trays, I believe, but is expandable to 30!  14 is enough (12 is enough, really).  ;)  Anything beyond deseeding 10 trays of chiles is just work.  For temps, I set mine at 115F and leave it for the duration, usually 3 to 4 days.  If I set it at 95 it would be like air conditioning during the day.  :)  Our highs have been over 100 this past weekend/week. 
 
The "beard" is from the whitefly, themselves.  We get the "giant whitefly" out here, and this is what it does to protect itself from predators, etc.  At least it makes it easy for me to spot the involved leaves.  :D
 
Love the blue painter's tape.  Comes off easily.  Thanks for stopping in!
 
That stack of dehydrator trays is too awesome for words.
 
All the rest of your blog just leaves me speechless.
 
About 35-40% of my Giant White Hab pods had stingers
on them last season.
 
PaulG said:
That stack of dehydrator trays is too awesome for words.
 
All the rest of your blog just leaves me speechless.
 
About 35-40% of my Giant White Hab pods had stingers
on them last season.
Thank you, kind sir!  I has been, and continues to be, a lot of effort to keep things going.  Even when I don't have that much to do in the yard, I can easily kill a weekend doing it.  I'm sure you know the feeling.   
 
Good to know about the GWH.  I'm still unclear whether the GWH and the 7 Pot White are the same.  GA Growhead has both going this year, so we will see!  Probably like the TSMB vs. Brain, or the HP22B vs. Primo.  ;)
 
You have done us all proud, Brent!
I got the plant from Spankycolts last year; this plant is from that plant's seed, OP.  
I have two of them going.  Would be nice to see some more stinger pods.  I do
have more seed from those pods, if that's not the case.
 
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