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DocNrock's 2013 Glog - 7/11/13

My 2013 grow officially began 10/14/2012, when seeds hit soil. After seeing Fernando (SocalChilehead) growing in his greenhouse "sanctuary" and KiNGDeNNiZ continuing to start new growth in his AeroGarden, as well as the community HP22B grow thread already being 8 pages, I broke down and started my 2013 grow. I was going to limit it to 50 varieties, but that ended up being 64, 77 including the plants I want to save from 2012. If some varieties don't pop or I end up losing some along the way, I might still be down to 50 (or less!) in no time. The grow list with pop dates is at the bottom of this post.

Since I had plenty of seeds I wanted to try an experiment. Which is better for germination, soil or Rapid Rooters? I have two mini-greenhouses with 36 soil cups each, and one mini-greenhouse with a 72 cell insert loaded with Rapid Rooters. All seeds were soaked overnight in water that had been boiled and cooled and contained a dilution of brewed chamomile tea and H2O2. The Rapid Rooters and soil were both moistened with the same mix. The soil is Sungro Sunshine mix #1 amended lightly with Ancient Forest and worm castings. Wondering if the organisms in the amendments might help break down the seed coat. Each cell contains about five seeds. This will force me to cull the weaklings, as opposed to trying to save them, hahaha! At most I will end up with two seedlings for each variety. If both survive, I can try to gift one of the two. I am thinking that some varieties may germinate better in soil, some better in the Rapid Rooters, and for some it may not make a difference. I read somewhere that kelp solutions are rich in growth hormones. Has anyone added a light kelp solution dilution to their germination setup? I was thinking of adding a couple of drops to each Rapid Rooter cell. Fert-wise, the kelp solutions are very, very weak. I doubt it would do any harm. Has anyone ever tried the kelp? I have not, but might try it later on anything that seems stubborn to sprout.

I am hoping these guys are all budded up come springtime, and ready for an early harvest. Since my indoor space is limited, I am giving serious consideration to building a small greenhouse in the backyard and putting in a couple of space heaters for the night time. I decided against a raised bed, and will probably go with 5 gallon Root Pouches for the larger plants. Some of the annuums and plants I'm as yet unsure of I will grow in 2 gallon pots. If I end up liking them, I can always up-pot them.

Getting organized:

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Man, I hope I didn't mix any of these up! 64 cups to keep straight is a far cry from 3. It will be 6 months until I know for sure!:

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Rapid Rooters:

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Soil:

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Let the waiting game begin!:

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Also, in case anyone is interested, the white plastic labelling tags are available at Discount Hydroponics, $2.95/100! Cheaper than popsickle sticks!

Regarding the plants I already have, I am going to try to start cuttings off most of them in the event the plants don't make it over the winter. I won't need to start those from seed, although there are four varieties (Douglah, Fatalii, Barrackpore and Yellow Bhut) I am starting from seed, as well.

Question: When we start a new grow season, is it typical to just add to one's glog thread, or is it appropriate to start a new thread for the new grow year?

Anyway, happy growing to you all and thanks for looking. I'm hoping all the lessons I learned this year will help me to make this grow much more successful!

GROW LIST: I will try to edit in pop dates for both soil and Rapid Rooters. The Rapid Rooters might get earlier pop dates since I can see the rootlets before hooks form.

Sown seeds (65):

Trinidad Scorpion (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR)
HP22B (Pepper Joe) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Primo (Primo) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Billy Boy Jonah (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Congo Gigantic (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
7 Pot Barrackpore (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (RR)
Dorset Naga (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Naga Morich (Biscgolf - pods) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Bhut Jolokia (JoynersHotPeppers)
Red Rocoto (SocalChilihead) 10/22/12 (RR)
Malawi Peppadew (Refiningfirechiles) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Trinidad PI281317 (Pepperlover) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Anaheim (Pepperlover - gift)
7 Pot Chiguanas (Silver Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Devil's Tongue (Pepperlover - gift) 10/28/12 (RR)
Butch T (Pepperlover - pods) 10/24/12 (RR)
7 Pot Jonah (Pepperlover - pods) 10/27/12 (RR)
7 Pot Burgundy (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Infinity 10/20/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
Yellow Moruga (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/23/12 (RR)
Yellow Brain (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Yellow Bhut Jolokia (Biscgolf) 10/26/12 (soil)
Fatalii (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR),10/28/12 (soil)
7 Pot Yellow (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (RR)
Peach Bhut (AJIJOE) 10/28/12 (RR)
Beni Highland (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Morova (Pepperlover) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
7 Pot Orange (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/28/12 (RR)
Golden Cayenne (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Yellow Scotch Bonnet (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/22/12 (RR)
7 Pot Brown (Biscgolf) 10/24/12 (soil)
Douglah (Biscgolf) 10/27/12 (soil)
Black Habanero (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Chocolate Scorpion (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
Douglah x Chocolate Scorpion F4 (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/23/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Black Naga (Refiningfirechiles) 10/20/12 (soil)
Pasilla Bajio (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (soil), 10/27/12 (RR)
Long Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Chocolate Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (soil), 10/24/12 (RR)
Black Stinger (Refiningfirechiles) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
7 Pot White (Pepperlover) 10/24/12 (RR), 10/27/12 (soil)
Giant White Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/23/12 (soil)
White Bullet Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
White Devil's Tongue (Silver_Surfer via Coheed) 10/28/12 (RR)
Serrano (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/19/12 (soil) ***FIRST SOIL***
Jalapeno (Pepper Joe - free) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/20/12 (soil)
Red Bell (store bought pepper) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Andy F1 Gochu (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL*** 10/23/12 (soil)
Korean Winner Hybrid (Stickman via SocalChilehead) 10/17/12 (RR) ***TIED, FIRST OVERALL***
Pimenta de Neyde (SocalChilehead) 10/28/12 (RR)
Trinidad Scorpion Green (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR)
Most Prolific C.chacoense (Pepperlover - gift) 10/23/12 (RR)
Royal Black (AJIJOE) 10/22/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Assam (SocalChilehead) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Trinidad Scorpion "FG" (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/24/12 (soil)
Australian Lantern Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/26/12 (RR), 10/26/12 (soil)
Aji Yellow (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate (KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Aji Omnicolor (OROZCONLECHE) 10/19/12 (RR)
Not-Trinidad Scorpion (long yellow pod from Arboretum, KiNGDeNNiZ) 10/22/12 (RR)
Mystery Chocolate Mix (Silver_Surfer) 10/23/12 (RR)
Red Congo (AJIJOE) 10/23/12 (RR)
Peach Habanero (AJIJOE) 10/19/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Yellow Hablokia (AJIJOE) 10/20/12 (RR), 10/22/12 (soil)
Sown 10/20/12
Yellow Bell (store-bought pepper) 10/23/12 (RR)
Sown 10/28/12
Chocolate Bell (Refiningfirechiles)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Douglah (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter (Refiningfirechiles)
Yellow Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Chocolate Bhut (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Pineapple (Refiningfirechiles)
Aji Dulce 1 (Tradewinds)
Datil (Tradewinds)
Goat's Horn (Tradewinds)
NuMex Big Jim (Tradewinds)
Paprika (Tradewinds)
Brain Strain 7 (PepperRidge)


What I hope to save from my current grow, either whole plants or clones (13):

Carribean Red (local nursery)
Aji Panca (Refiningfirechiles)
Peter Pepper (Refiningfirechiles)
Jamaican Yellow Mushroom (Refiningfirechiles)
Moruga (Refiningfirechiles)
Malaysian Goronong (Refiningfirechiles)
Thai Dragon (North Park Produce)
Chenzo (North Park Produce)
Red Brain Strain (Baker's Peppers - pods)
Chinese 5-color (Orozconleche)
Aji Dulce (Orozconleche)
Datil (Orozconleche)
Bonnie "World's Hottest Hab" (Fatalii?) (Home Depot)

I'm going to do my best to keep one of each alive, but with 77 total, I might be lucky if a few croak!
 
Looking great, Doc, pods and powders aplenty.  That Sepia Serpent is freaky looking, definitely one to add to my grow list for next year.
 
DocNrock said:
  Its 100F today and it will rarely get below 95 for the rest of the summer and many days will be over 100.  Chiles like that, it seems.
Do you get continued flower set and production in those temperatures?  Do your plants get partial shade?  Or maybe it's just the steady drip watering that's keeps them producing?  I thought it was generally accepted that production stopped when it got that hot.  This gives me hope for my potted plants under the shade trees.
 
romy6 said:
 Holy batman Brent. You are gonna need a bigger smoker and a couple more dehydrators at the rate you are going. Wait another month and your freezers will all be stuffed. Time to set up shop at the local farmers market. Simply outstandliciouness!!! :fireball:  :fireball:  :fireball:
I hear ya, Jaime.  I've found the local Farmer's Market and have given it some thought.  I need to take a trip by there and see if anyone else is selling chiles.  Thanks!
 
PaulG said:
You have done us all proud, Brent!
I got the plant from Spankycolts last year; this plant is from that plant's seed, OP.  
I have two of them going.  Would be nice to see some more stinger pods.  I do
have more seed from those pods, if that's not the case.
Thanks, Paul, I learned it all from you all on this board.  Keep going on the White Stingers!  They look cool.  :cool: 
Sawyer said:
Looking great, Doc, pods and powders aplenty.  That Sepia Serpent is freaky looking, definitely one to add to my grow list for next year.
 
Do you get continued flower set and production in those temperatures?  Do your plants get partial shade?  Or maybe it's just the steady drip watering that's keeps them producing?  I thought it was generally accepted that production stopped when it got that hot.  This gives me hope for my potted plants under the shade trees.
Thanks, Sawyer.  That Sepia Serpent I showed is an anomaly.  They typically look a bit like a Chocolate Brain would look, but a bit more blocky.  Hot as Hades.  :cool:
 
It seems I am getting continued set.  I'm thinking it is because the plants were already in the swing of podding before the summer temps set in.  Maybe they will stop for a while.  I'll tell you, that would be welcome...for a while.  :)  But right now, the plants are just loaded with chiles.  Most are in full sun.  About a third of them get partial sun.  Oddly enough, my Red Rocoto is in full sun and is starting to pod up.  :crazy:
 
Thanks for stopping in.
 
LOL, Yea we need an update...if you are not conducting brain surgery! 
 
But those jars look great!  I use qt bags for most of my stuff, but the Kitchen Sink got a mason jar.  I don't really have the room for a bunch of jars, and my pepper hobby lifestyle is encroaching on space...lol! 
 
I freaking love that Sepia.  I know it isn't the right pheno, but it is gnarly!  SS is a pod machine, always has the craziest stuff!
 
Stefan_W said:
I think it's definitely time for another update :)
  
MGOLD86 said:
LOL, Yea we need an update...if you are not conducting brain surgery! 
 
But those jars look great!  I use qt bags for most of my stuff, but the Kitchen Sink got a mason jar.  I don't really have the room for a bunch of jars, and my pepper hobby lifestyle is encroaching on space...lol! 
 
I freaking love that Sepia.  I know it isn't the right pheno, but it is gnarly!  SS is a pod machine, always has the craziest stuff!
Hahaha! Thanks guys. I'll be getting home somewhat early today, so I'll do an update this afternoon.
 
stickman said:
Cool, I'd love to hear what you have to say about the Kurtovska Kapia...
 
Loved the Kurtovska Kapija!  Very sweet flavor, much sweeter than a Red Bell.  Will make some K.A. Ajvar!  I might even dry some to make a sweet chile powder.  ;)

Picking chiles. ..omfg.
 
Wow!
 
I went away for a few days and then spent some time catching up....I'm in holy crap mode!
 
Most excellent harvests, and many!
 
So now I see what you mean by "manageable harvests", 'aint it sweet when it all comes together!
 
Powders to last mas years there my friend!
 
All I can say is job well done 10x!
 
DocNrock said:
 
 
Loved the Kurtovska Kapija!  Very sweet flavor, much sweeter than a Red Bell.  Will make some K.A. Ajvar!  I might even dry some to make a sweet chile powder.  ;)

Picking chiles. ..omfg.
 
Glad you liked the KK peppers Doc! I haven't tried them yet, but am intensely anticipating their ripening...
 
Cheer up, you've only got another 15 weeks or so to this growing season... ;)
 
Update?  Today's harvest: 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 

 
Whew!
 
One day at Home Depot I bought my wife a Sensitivity Plant.  I became it's caretaker.  It's doing OK. 
 

 
I'm heading out of town in the morning for the next few days.  I'll be back in town Tuesday.  I'll certainly have online capabilities, but will be in meetings all day.  Hope everyone has a great weekend!
 
DocNrock said:
 
 
Loved the Kurtovska Kapija!  Very sweet flavor, much sweeter than a Red Bell.  Will make some K.A. Ajvar!  I might even dry some to make a sweet chile powder.  ;)


 
 
 
Glad you liked it :)
 
I always make a bit of Kapija powder, it's good. A little bit less sweet, but not like usual sweet pepper powder (don't know about USA, bet here it is one of the all around most used spices).
 
I also make a mix of KK with hot ornamental pepper powder wich are hot but without a distinctive flavor. Also, it mixess good with habanero powder.
 
 
Picking chiles. ..omfg.
 
I would like to see a day when I'll be able to say that :D
 
You are having magnificent harvests ;)
 
stickman said:
Geez Doc, with a pull like that before you leave, you're gonna come back to a jungle! Stay safe!
Thanks, Rick!
 
Stefan_W said:
Holy crap, you have so many pods in today's harvest that you had to set them out on a park bench!
 
Awesome stuff!
Thanks, Stefan!
 
GA Growhead said:
Seriously loaded!
 
Thanks, Jason!
Trippa said:
Yeah it is !! Nice Harvest doc!! Are you still getting pod set with your temps at the moment??

Nice work bro
Thanks, Tristen!  Honestly, I really don't know.  The plants are so loaded up with pods that I have no idea if any are new.   
 
MisterNo said:
 
 
Glad you liked it :)
 
I always make a bit of Kapija powder, it's good. A little bit less sweet, but not like usual sweet pepper powder (don't know about USA, bet here it is one of the all around most used spices).
 
I also make a mix of KK with hot ornamental pepper powder wich are hot but without a distinctive flavor. Also, it mixess good with habanero powder.
 
 
I would like to see a day when I'll be able to say that :D
 
You are having magnificent harvests ;)
Thanks, MisterNo!  Great info on the KK powder, also.  Now I'm definitely going to set some aside for powder!
 
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