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Siv

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My sister and I have been on a quest to perfect a Sichuan eggplant recipe. In this adventure, we managed to get out hands on a crucial ingredient, authentic Pixian Doubanjian or fermented broad bean paste. This stuff is made from broad beans, wheat four, salt and a specific kind of chilli called er jing tiao.
 
I'm wondering if any of you out there has encountered this chilli? It looks like a cayenne but apparently it dries very red. Anyone seen them fresh in the US or grown them?
 
This is the only pic I can find that shows how they look somewhat fresh but these are pickled:
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The chili pepper institute has a little write up about peppers in China and this is an excerpt from the article:
 




[SIZE=12pt]"Most hot pepper varieties grown in China belong to the cayenne pod type and the Asian pod type. 'Er Jing Tiao' (double goldenness), a long narrow cayenne type, [/SIZE][SIZE=13pt]is [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]a major cultivar in Sichuan Province and is used to produce red chile powder for export."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The link:[/SIZE]https://cpi.nmsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2016/06/98-fall.pdf
So evidently its a "cayenne type"?
 
I know this don't answer your question but your post got my curiosity up so I looked around a bit.  Also, I could only find seeds via eBay.  (from China).  I didnt look long though.
 

The_NorthEast_ChileMan

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Tybo said:
The chili pepper institute has a little write up about peppers in China and this is an excerpt from the article:
 




"Most hot pepper varieties grown in China belong to the cayenne pod type and the Asian pod type. 'Er Jing Tiao' (double goldenness), a long narrow cayenne type, [/size]is [/size]a major cultivar in Sichuan Province and is used to produce red chile powder for export."[/size]
The link:[/size]https://cpi.nmsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2016/06/98-fall.pdf
So evidently its a "cayenne type"?
 
I know this don't answer your question but your post got my curiosity up so I looked around a bit.  Also, I could only find seeds via eBay.  (from China).  I didnt look long though.
 
Great - informative find! I found this.>Wikipedia - Er jing tiao  from this site..> GOOGLE image search for er jing tiao chili
 

Siv

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Thanks guys. The chili pepper institute article is a very nice read although the double goldenness isn't a name I've seen used anywhere else.
 
I may have to engage the services of a native Chinese speaker to better find these. Everywhere I look, the pictures of the chillies don't match what I expect them to be - many places claiming to sell er jing tiao show pictures of other varieties. I really would like to get my hands on some fresh ones or seeds and grow my own.
 
The main issue I have is that the really good fermented broad bean paste is aged for 3 years and as a result, it's a dark brown colour. So it's common to mix in freshly pickled er jing tiao to get that bright red colour back. And given that the paste tastes so good, these chillies are likely to make a stunning fermented sauce or even just for use as pickles.
 
There is another dried chilli called the "chicken claw" which is much milder and it used for chilli oil etc. Another one to keep an eye out for.
 

ahayastani

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I always like to read about heirlooms...
 
I used to order photographic adaptors in Hong Kong and China over e-bay. The price of these adaptors was on the low side and the quality was decent. So I also ordered some seeds, but this was absolutely a disappointment. From wrong seeds to passed expiration date (YEARS! past, not days). One kind of beans was even painted to make it look different...
 
I suppose China is a treasure cove for interesting heirlooms, but also kind of a pirates' nest of opportunists. Anyway, tell us when you find the treasure :D
 

Siv

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So I'm fed up of trying to find Er Jing Tiao and I know I have some seeds in my fridge, deep inside the doubanjiang bottle. So I put a teaspoon in a fine mech sieve and ran it under some water until most of the gunk was washed away and I was left with skins, beans and seeds. The seeds were then transferred to a wet paper towel and we'll see if any germinate. I'm not holding out much hope but at least I feel I'm being proactive.
 
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Ya might take 1/2 of them and do an hour 20% (by volume) hydrogen peroxide soak to help get the sugar out of the nooks and crannies. Otherwise you might end up with little mold balls. Just a thought, as all your eggs look like they are in one basket.

Regardless, let us know.
 

Sinn

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Siv said:
A side effect of my experiment is that I stuck Er Jing Tiao in Google again and one of the stores that was perennially out of stock now has them! https://themalamarket.com/products/er-jing-tiao-chili
 
$20 shipped is a lot for a small bag of chillies but I'm gonna cut each one open and extract as many seeds as I can. Now I just have to wait patiently for them to arrive.
Interesting pepper placed an order for some thank you for posting about them

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Siv

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Er Jing Tiao from Mala Market arrived today. They look great and have a nice smokey flavour and are not too hot. I've extracted all the seeds I can and have put 9 in a grodan block as a germination test. If successful, I'll offer them up to people to try.
 
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I'm also going to make a sambal with the peppers to really check out the taste. If any germinate, I'm definitely growing as many as I can manage this year.
 
Siv said:
Er Jing Tiao from Mala Market arrived today. They look great and have a nice smokey flavour and are not too hot. I've extracted all the seeds I can and have put 9 in a grodan block as a germination test. If successful, I'll offer them up to people to try.
 
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I'm also going to make a sambal with the peppers to really check out the taste. If any germinate, I'm definitely growing as many as I can manage this year.
 
 
Hello, I'm from China. If the seeds of Er Jing Tiao you buy can't germinate, I can buy ripe fresh Er Jing Tiao pepper and get seeds. You can contact me if you need to.We can help each other.
 

CaneDog

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I'm curious as well @Siv. Did you have any luck?

I've been considering putting in an order here because I haven't found seeds in which I've been confident, but I'm not particularly confident in the viability from some of these dried pods, either :(
 

CaneDog

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this any help
I saw that and noticed they use the identical image as this seller out of Australia. That may mean nothing, but I'm always a leery of getting something that isn't what it's purported to be. For whatever reasons, I felt that absent a reasonably trusted source for seeds, buying the actual pods gave me a bit more confidence they're what they're supposed to be - if not the confidence they'll germinate! My preference, of course, would be connecting with a THP member with confirmed seeds. :)
 
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