I have 13 Fatalli, 10 going to gallon size containers and 3 to full size 5 gallon ASAP. Mine have bud sites.
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greenhouse Greenhouse Pepper Porn 03-18-09
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AlabamaJack
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k...I will plant 10 to gallon size, 3 to 5 gallon buckets, and the rest to 7 gallon containers...that should be a good comparison since our grow seasons are so attuned (except for rain)...
AlabamaJack said:
Doesn't that scare you to move ALL the best (incl. comp fataliis) at the same time?
And there's no intermediate potting before 5 gal? ... so no more moving them around, at least not without a lot of effort or a trailer of some kind.
Those are absolutely amazing AJ!! How old and what type are the ones that are budding? If you can find a market for them you will get top dollar for sure.
Oh and I think your carib reds have already caught up to mine. I just potted them up to 1 gal yesterday.
AlabamaJack
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thanks twang and penny..
and Carol...the buds are on the Chocolate Fataliis and they were planted 12 January 2009...I haven't switched to the ProBloom botanicare yet...am thinking I may for a couple of the chocolates to see the difference in growth between the ProGrow and ProBloom...
as far as potting straight to 5 gallon containers from 3" containers goes...if I had less plants, I would pot to 1 gallon then to their final home for the year, however, last year, I went from 3" to 5 gallon and had pretty good results...the comparison will be good for a learning experience for me...
and Carol...the buds are on the Chocolate Fataliis and they were planted 12 January 2009...I haven't switched to the ProBloom botanicare yet...am thinking I may for a couple of the chocolates to see the difference in growth between the ProGrow and ProBloom...
as far as potting straight to 5 gallon containers from 3" containers goes...if I had less plants, I would pot to 1 gallon then to their final home for the year, however, last year, I went from 3" to 5 gallon and had pretty good results...the comparison will be good for a learning experience for me...
Pepper Ridge Farm said:
So are you saying that MH's are better or are they just faster than fluoros?
And how much of the faster growth is attributed to the Nute program that they are on?
Dale
No hijack intended but yes A MH light is the best. I know that you want the same thing as me, the best looking starts possible to put out in your garden. Plants are stronger more mature seedlings that harden off much easier. Root growth almost double because of the intense lighting. I have feed my plants only Neptune's Harvest seaweed and fish a few times. You would be beside yourself Dale if you could see the difference that a HID would do for your plants. I don't understand why the hang up why you think floro are just the same, they're not. Just trying to help.
p.s.- I'm not suggesting that you change away from floro, a seedling will benefit the most just by being rotated under a MH for 10 days is all.
p.s.- I'm not suggesting that you change away from floro, a seedling will benefit the most just by being rotated under a MH for 10 days is all.
Pepper Ridge Farm said:
I do see the results of how a MH works, I see it on this forum every day but that is not what I am looking for. I am looking to get 500+ healthy seedlings outside, not the tallest or the ones with the most roots.
And what would give you the indication that I have a hangup with this issue, I am not the one posting about only MH can give you beautiful healthy green plants with thick stems. I am just defending the use of fluoro's when such posts appear. There are many reasons to use different lighting to start seedlings and I'm glad that the MH's work best for you.
Dale
Sorry AJ.
Dale
Dale
AlabamaJack
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no problem here...just two different ways of doing things..
It's all good Dale, love you like a brother. AJ like a father.
Yea I would say the argument depends on a lot of things. There are positives and negatives to both. Based on Dales setup and number of plants I would say the fluorescents are best for him. He seems to pack alot of flats in vertically. He says 500+ plants. So if he puts them in 3.5" pots he can put 18 in a tray. That means at least 28 trays. If he had the horizontal space I would say MH all the way. Stronger output, better canopy penetration, etc. On the other hand this is only my second year growing and I do not have any artificial lights so what do I know.
Josh
Josh
PRF, I feel the same brother.
Dale
Dale
I have about 45 flats with 18 or 36 plants per flat. Using mostly 105 watt CFL bulbs but also have two 150 watt HPS and four 23-watt CFL bulbs (ran out of the others!). IN all honesty, the 23-watt bulbs seem to be the best, though I rotate the seedlings.
In hindsight, I sowed the seeds far too early this year, especially the toms, bell and banana peppers.
Unlike Dale, I do want strong roots and stems. The root development, IMO, is more dependent on the type of potting soil, watering and type of fert. Plus, transplanting them into a larger cell and burying them to their bottom leaves should also help.
Which artificial type of light is best aside, next year I will move all my seedlings into a GH as soon as I transplant them. By the middle of March, there are typically very few nights when the temps drop into the 20s so a couple of 400 watt heaters will take care of that. Even if I have to run them 24 hours a day, it will cost only 70¢ more than I am spending now on lights.
But looking at AJ's plants and how amazing they look since being moved outside, it's easy to see how the 60-100K lumens the sun provides kills other lights.
Mike
In hindsight, I sowed the seeds far too early this year, especially the toms, bell and banana peppers.
Unlike Dale, I do want strong roots and stems. The root development, IMO, is more dependent on the type of potting soil, watering and type of fert. Plus, transplanting them into a larger cell and burying them to their bottom leaves should also help.
Which artificial type of light is best aside, next year I will move all my seedlings into a GH as soon as I transplant them. By the middle of March, there are typically very few nights when the temps drop into the 20s so a couple of 400 watt heaters will take care of that. Even if I have to run them 24 hours a day, it will cost only 70¢ more than I am spending now on lights.
But looking at AJ's plants and how amazing they look since being moved outside, it's easy to see how the 60-100K lumens the sun provides kills other lights.
Mike
AlabamaJack
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just gonna sell the plants this time of year...I will have to check into selling the peppers...I think they will probably fall under a "produce" category and may have to have a license to sell those...
the tax number is good for selling at flea markets and such and I don't think it matters what I sell there, however, the tax number I got is tied to a NAICS number, 111219 - "Other vegetable (except potato) and melon farming"
the tax number is good for selling at flea markets and such and I don't think it matters what I sell there, however, the tax number I got is tied to a NAICS number, 111219 - "Other vegetable (except potato) and melon farming"