Just thought it would be interesting to see how many here are also organic growers since we don't have a sub forum for organics. I know of a couple of members here who are organic growers but I am curious as to who else is? 
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How many of you are organic growers?
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I grow everything organically but only claim it to be all natural since I have not paid for the official stamp
i'm all natural. love me some bat guano
good onemx5inpa said:
I am 100% organic, the endmx5inpa said:
You cannot label stuff organic without proper channels.
http://www.heatmadesimple.com/about-us.html
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jedisushi06 said:
Not sure how to take that. Lots of big ag corporations use the label 'all natural' and it literally has no legal meaning. You can almost put anything into food and still call it all natural.
JoynersHotPeppers said:I am 100% organic, the end
You cannot label stuff organic without proper channels.
http://www.heatmadesimple.com/about-us.html
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Oh I know that. And I wasnt trying to disparage you in any way. Just saying...it's technically a meaningless label and is kind of a scourge to organic growers.
You can call your food or products organic without having to get certified if youre making less than $5k a year with them. Just an FYI to people reading the thread who may not know.
Yeah that was my point, I am not paying to get a stamp when I know how I grow as do many people that follow us. Hell, Delaware will certify my yard as wildlife habitat since I have full cycles for a few species of butterflies.mx5inpa said:
Speaking of organic, need to get a Gamo Whisper to fix the rabbit problem
Sure it is, I put a USDA organic label on it!mx5inpa said:What a pellet gun isnt organic?
“Natural foods” and “all natural foods” are widely used terms in food labeling and marketing with a variety of definitions, most of which are vague. The term is assumed to imply foods that are minimally processed and do not contain manufactured ingredients, but the lack of standards in most jurisdictions means that the term assures nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_foods
From a food science perspective, it is difficult to define a food product that is 'natural' because the food has probably been processed and is no longer the product of the earth. That said, FDA has not developed a definition for use of the term natural or its derivatives. However, the agency has not objected to the use of the term if the food does not contain added color, artificial flavors, or synthetic substances.
http://www.fda.gov/aboutfda/transparency/basics/ucm214868.htm
In US, ‘Natural’ Food Label Means Nothing
http://www.businessinsider.com/in-us-natural-food-label-means-nothing-2014-2
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If you read the ingredients labels in the store of foods labled all natural you will quickly learn it has no meaning.
Anyway sorry if it came off as attacking you. You just happened to mention it first. I'm just attacking the term, it's use, and the lack of truth in advertising here. I have no problem believing your products are all natural, but I know better when I see those same words on a pack of Tyson chicken in the store.
And that last sentence by the FDA seems like it's just PR because without defining the word(s) they have no legal leg to stand on so they cant object at all or they will lose in court. Not to mention I have seen every single one of those ingredients on 'natural' and 'all natural' labeled food in the store.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_foods
From a food science perspective, it is difficult to define a food product that is 'natural' because the food has probably been processed and is no longer the product of the earth. That said, FDA has not developed a definition for use of the term natural or its derivatives. However, the agency has not objected to the use of the term if the food does not contain added color, artificial flavors, or synthetic substances.
http://www.fda.gov/aboutfda/transparency/basics/ucm214868.htm
In US, ‘Natural’ Food Label Means Nothing
http://www.businessinsider.com/in-us-natural-food-label-means-nothing-2014-2
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If you read the ingredients labels in the store of foods labled all natural you will quickly learn it has no meaning.
Anyway sorry if it came off as attacking you. You just happened to mention it first. I'm just attacking the term, it's use, and the lack of truth in advertising here. I have no problem believing your products are all natural, but I know better when I see those same words on a pack of Tyson chicken in the store.
And that last sentence by the FDA seems like it's just PR because without defining the word(s) they have no legal leg to stand on so they cant object at all or they will lose in court. Not to mention I have seen every single one of those ingredients on 'natural' and 'all natural' labeled food in the store.
No worries, I do not feel attacked and suffice to say we try to do our part to keep everything chemical free and all natural.
I'm attempting to get all organic. Still have some plants in the dreaded Miracle Gro, but phasing that out in preference of my own mix. My plants in my own mix are growing better and are having less problems with aphids and fungus gnats compared to those in the MG.
It is almost impossible to be 100% organic these days as even the food scraps we put in our compost bins is GMO grown unless you are buying "organic" which doesn't really have to be truely organic as mx5inpa has been saying.
I am about as close to 100% Organic as you can get, been that way for 15+ years here. I compost my leaves, grass and use plenty of chicken manure in my compost when I can. I use rain water ( caught in cans ) when possible and try to mulch my beds to stop them from drying out so I dont rely on my own water supply ( and I have a Well not city )
No synthetic ferts or pesticides here.
Been playing with compost and Manure teas for a few years with some good results.
If you think Organic is tough look into Bio-Dynamic Farming or Permaculture, that's a whole different animal.
I am currently researching Permaculture with a Mycological twist aka Synergistic Mycosphere.
No synthetic ferts or pesticides here.
Been playing with compost and Manure teas for a few years with some good results.
If you think Organic is tough look into Bio-Dynamic Farming or Permaculture, that's a whole different animal.
I am currently researching Permaculture with a Mycological twist aka Synergistic Mycosphere.
that's exactly what i do.JoynersHotPeppers said:No worries, I do not feel attacked and suffice to say we try to do our part to keep everything chemical free and all natural.
