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chinense Is a Naga Viper hotter than a Bhut
- Thread starter dragon49
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we will findout when we try it
I dunno. There are a few peppers out there that are hotter than the Bhut.
7pods are. Douglah, t scorpion.... many others
The naga viper(formerly Trinidad viper) is apparently somehow an unstable 3 way hybrid which likely means there is a very diverse gene pool and future generations will likely be far different is shape, size, heat etc.
Its SHU reports have not been verified and it seems any pepper tested at Warwick records at least 1000000 SHU for whatever reason
In my opinion proper standards have to be applied if one truly wants to record the hottest pepper, and not just an unverified Warwick test
Its SHU reports have not been verified and it seems any pepper tested at Warwick records at least 1000000 SHU for whatever reason
In my opinion proper standards have to be applied if one truly wants to record the hottest pepper, and not just an unverified Warwick test
Im surpised Warwaick hasnt labeled the habanero as being over 1 million svu's...
It seems that the 'Naga Viper' that Gerald Fowler is advertising as the world's hottest chile pepper is a three way hybrid cross, being made up of these three peppers: Bhut Jolokia, Naga Morich and Trinidad Scorpion.
All three of these peppers are hot in their own right, so even though this hybrid cross is unstable, it will still no doubt be hot.
Where it will show variability is in size and shape, and though it will be hot, i wouldn't bank on it always being at the 1.3 million scoville heat level.
It wasn't revealed how these peppers were grown or chosen to be tested for that matter.
Until a large scale test such as the one done in 2005 at Las Cruces, New Mexico by Dr. Paul Bosland and colleagues, where they tested and compared Bhut Jolokia, Orange Habanero and Red Savina chile peppers is conducted, the results of a small test for the benefit of a commercial seed vendor, has to be taken with with a grain of salt.
When Dr. Bosland did his testing, he selected from thirty six plants of each strain.
Of these, twenty five random mature pods of each strain were chosen from at least ten different plants of each strain, for HPLC Scoville testing.
It is testing like this, from a reputable source, that will give more consumer confidence for a pepper's expected hotness.
dvg
All three of these peppers are hot in their own right, so even though this hybrid cross is unstable, it will still no doubt be hot.
Where it will show variability is in size and shape, and though it will be hot, i wouldn't bank on it always being at the 1.3 million scoville heat level.
It wasn't revealed how these peppers were grown or chosen to be tested for that matter.
Until a large scale test such as the one done in 2005 at Las Cruces, New Mexico by Dr. Paul Bosland and colleagues, where they tested and compared Bhut Jolokia, Orange Habanero and Red Savina chile peppers is conducted, the results of a small test for the benefit of a commercial seed vendor, has to be taken with with a grain of salt.
When Dr. Bosland did his testing, he selected from thirty six plants of each strain.
Of these, twenty five random mature pods of each strain were chosen from at least ten different plants of each strain, for HPLC Scoville testing.
It is testing like this, from a reputable source, that will give more consumer confidence for a pepper's expected hotness.
dvg
Glad that was clarified. Thought I was missing out on something. I've got 300 Naga Dorset growing around the house and didn't want to start again.
My take is does it really matter? Yes I know we all want to grow the hottest pepper,we will grow other peppers even if they aren't the hottest..we just like peppers and growing them. IMO after bhuts, nagas, trinidad scorpions,7 pots, etc we are dealing with fairly small differences in heat...yes I'd like my chance to grow the viper but it'll take a while to get it stabilized and distributed among the pepper growers. I am not getting in too big of a hurry for this one, guess I'm more of a skeptic the longer I grow peppers.
IMO it will end up being grouped in the "Ghost Pepper" group.
I was talking to some other heat lovers and they were talking of a show they saw on food network that had Ghost Peppers on it. I asked what kind and they looked at me dumbfounded. I had to fight back laughter but it is so common that no one knows. We need to find our 10 best beers and group them under "Great Beer" apparently no one care what kind anyway right? I mean I know most can't get past the heat to taste the flavor, but once you get there they do have different nuances.
I was talking to some other heat lovers and they were talking of a show they saw on food network that had Ghost Peppers on it. I asked what kind and they looked at me dumbfounded. I had to fight back laughter but it is so common that no one knows. We need to find our 10 best beers and group them under "Great Beer" apparently no one care what kind anyway right? I mean I know most can't get past the heat to taste the flavor, but once you get there they do have different nuances.
Ordinary folks that do not frequent this forum or other hot pepper sites probably consider themselves in the know, just by being aware of "The hottest pepper in the world"...the ghost pepper.
But once you start to learn about some of the rarer specialty peppers out there, and become, in a sense, a pepper aficionado, you're just gonna be that 'Pepper Geek Guy or Gal' who knows way too much about peppers.
So it goes with most serious hobbyists and specialists, that delve into their areas of interest and passion.
dvg
Yeah, I agree. Also, I'm friends with Jim Duffy from refining fire chiles on facebook and he seems to be really sceptical of this one, FWIW...
http://nagaviperchile.blogspot.com/2010/12/naga-viper-chilli-we-think-have-hotter.html
Jim Duffy IS the username (Habanero500) here. 
One and the same.
Chris
One and the same. Chris