JAB Farms to attempt GLOG for first time!

I've been told for years that my craziness should be documented somewhere. Well, I'm going to attempt it. Each year I like to start at least 3 times what I am planning for myself. I do fill 3 other (neighbors and family) gardens as well but even so have tons of plants. And on average I have 500 hot pepper plants in our garden, with 35-50 superhots in buckets on deck. (along with 75 tomatoes, okra, tons of cucs in garden) This year I started 42 types of HOT peppers, 12 types of sweet (not for me!). I'll attach photo's later - so in some kind of order) as I have several in my 30+ trays of 48 as I am starting transplanting and putting back under lights until they are ready for greenhouse. There are 3 - 5 shelf shelving units inside with lights across and 3 shelving units of 4 shelves in garage as backup.

What's the crazy guy growing this year? In HOT category (for most of us)
Carolina Reaper, White Moruga Scorpion, Trinidad Scorpion, Apocalypse Scorpion, White Trinidad Scorpion, Caribbean Red, Datil, Red Savina, Helios, Scotch Bonnet Freeport Orange, Thai Culinary, Thai Dragon (2 types), Prik Chi Faa, Bottle Rocket, Kung Pao, Aji Amarillo, Aji Pineapple, Sugar Rush Peach, thunder Mountain Longhorn, Long Red Slim Cayenne, Long Thick Cayenne, Lemon Drop, Devil Serrano, Hot Rod Serrano, Santo Domingo Serrano, Antiplano Serrano, Joe Cayenne, Atomic (Brazilian) Starfish, Big Thai, Orange Spice, Biker Billy, Jalapeno Early, Jedi Jalapeno, Dante Jalapeno, Everman Jalapeno, Inferno Hot Banana, Gochujang King, Cucumber Pepper, Numex Big Jim and JAB Superhot (usually a cross between all my superhots from previous year)

Hope someone can at least laugh at my craziness!

More to come.

 

[NJChilehead]

I've had multiple restaurants/chefs ask me for buttloads of Trinidad Moruga's but I can't provide gallon bags all the time. When they come in - I have tons. They need more of a major greenhouse grower to produce what they were looking to do. They each had a hot sauce they liked to use the Trinidad Moruga specifically for. So, yes. They are good and have quite a smoky, sweet flavor. Think high end habanero that keeps giving to a point you can't handle Some say floral - but I think that is more smell once cut into then the taste. I honestly think the Trinidad Moruga and Trinidad Scorpion are so close you wouldn't tell them much apart. I mean at that heat level can you REALLY tell the Scorpions seems to be a little hotter? I mean other than the look of the pepper, there is very little difference in my opinion. I've always enjoyed the Trinidad Moruga and almost always grow them. I used to grow just them, Carolina Reapers and Trinidad Butch T Scorpions but have had issues finding the true Butch T lately. Last two times I grew them they were different. Likely mutations and could even be natural I do not know. This year I do not have Trinidad Moruga's on my list as I threw in a couple new ones to try - one being Dragon's Breath I hope to enjoy (and have success with). Then next year pick from those + Moruga and others. I keep growing the Apocalypse Scorpion because of how priductive they are. I had maybe 6 of them in buckets and they out produced my Trinidad Moruga's, White Scorpions and my Butch T this past year (if you combined them all!)

I could send you some spices. I have A LOT

That's an interesting background on these! I didn't realize that Morugas were that productive. Also, did you ever hear my back story about the original Trinidad Scorpion vs. the Butch T?

Also I may take you up on the spices, I never turn down a little something different to try!

 

[JAB Farms]

That's an interesting background on these! I didn't realize that Morugas were that productive. Also, did you ever hear my back story about the original Trinidad Scorpion vs. the Butch T?

Also I may take you up on the spices, I never turn down a little something different to try!

Is that in posts here somewhere? I'd like to read that. And let me know about spices!

 

[NJChilehead]

Is that in posts here somewhere? I'd like to read that. And let me know about spices!

Surely! Here goes:

This is from post #39 on a thread interviewing Butch T: https://thehotpepper.com/threads/interview-with-butch-taylor.21528/post-450455

"Mark was on Gardenweb, but he was on a private (invite only) MSN pepper forum when I got the seeds from him, he acquired them
from another Chili head, from New Jersey also, who supposedly acquired them from Valley View Nursery (I think that was the name of the nursery). As far as seedsavers, I do believe I offered seeds as a member one year, wasn't too much interest back then, I don't recall sending out any seed at all for the Scorpion."

I am the Mark that he's referring to. The backstory is pretty interesting: I was a member of GardenWeb (my user name was Groovy1). Back then (2004-2006) the official word among general growers was that the Red Savina was the hottest of all the chiles, but the opinion among most on the forum who had grown a lot of peppers was that the chocolate chinenses were the hottest. Anyway, the discussion was being had about which was the hottest in the world, and it came up often. Sometime in the summer I got a PM from a member who wanted to trade seeds. I had a nice strain of Congo Black Habanero at the time and he offered me a few fruit from a pepper that he had gotten from a local nursery called the Trinidad Scorpion. He swore up and down that it was the hottest pepper in the world, etc., but at the time there were a lot of types that made the claim but ended up being in the neighborhood of a biker billy jalapeno or something along those lines.

So that trade was made in 2004, but I didn't eat the fresh fruit that he sent me, because I didn't know him, I only saved the seeds. I wasn't in any hurry. The following year I grew it out in my garden. I still remember when I saw the first ripe fruit on there. Beautiful summer day right up to that point. I popped it off and took a healthy nibble and had what felt like an astral projection in my garden. Definitely an Icarus moment. When I finally found my way back to Earth and back into the house, I cut it open and saw beads of capsaicin on the placenta. As far as my endorphins could tell, it sure as hell (no pun intended) was the world's hottest pepper.

This was right around the same time that I was brought into a group of serious growers and friends called the C2C pepper company. Steve Foster, Beth Boyd, John Fiedler, Butch Taylor, Allen Boatman, Chris Phillips, and myself plus a few others. We would trade the seeds that we had, send each other stuff, etc. I distributed the Trinidad Scorpion seeds to them and Butch grew it out the next year. According to Butch, the TS had quite the mutation there in his Mississippi soil and he and Neil from the Hippy Seed Company had it sent off and it got itself placed into the Guinness Book of World Records!

Now for the sake of lineage, I do want to share that the original source (that I received fruit from over PM) sourced the plants from Valley View Nurseries in Cockeysville, Maryland. There's also an interesting back story there. A family member of the folks who own that nursery (possibly the person who founded the nursery) was named Punky Foard. Punky traveled to Trinidad and brought back not only the Trinidad Scorpion, but also a few other nice landrace peppers from Trinidad. Lots of people know the big names of people who breed and distribute peppers, but sadly Punky's name is not well-known. That's why I like to share the story, although it's interesting, it also honors Punky, and without him, we wouldn't have the Trinidad Scorpion. It's a shame that Punky passed away back in 2010, although I didn't know him, I imagine that he would have enjoyed the fact that the TS got into the Guinness Book, and that it was one of the drivers of the superhot craze.

Let's see if this shows up, it's a link to the review that I did of the Trinidad Scorpion (among others) back in 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/2021022...s/2138925/review-of-peppers-grown-2005-season

 

[ahayastani]

Surely! Here goes:

This is from post #39 on a thread interviewing Butch T: https://thehotpepper.com/threads/interview-with-butch-taylor.21528/post-450455

"Mark was on Gardenweb, but he was on a private (invite only) MSN pepper forum when I got the seeds from him, he acquired them
from another Chili head, from New Jersey also, who supposedly acquired them from Valley View Nursery (I think that was the name of the nursery). As far as seedsavers, I do believe I offered seeds as a member one year, wasn't too much interest back then, I don't recall sending out any seed at all for the Scorpion."

I am the Mark that he's referring to. The backstory is pretty interesting: I was a member of GardenWeb (my user name was Groovy1). Back then (2004-2006) the official word among general growers was that the Red Savina was the hottest of all the chiles, but the opinion among most on the forum who had grown a lot of peppers was that the chocolate chinenses were the hottest. Anyway, the discussion was being had about which was the hottest in the world, and it came up often. Sometime in the summer I got a PM from a member who wanted to trade seeds. I had a nice strain of Congo Black Habanero at the time and he offered me a few fruit from a pepper that he had gotten from a local nursery called the Trinidad Scorpion. He swore up and down that it was the hottest pepper in the world, etc., but at the time there were a lot of types that made the claim but ended up being in the neighborhood of a biker billy jalapeno or something along those lines.

So that trade was made in 2004, but I didn't eat the fresh fruit that he sent me, because I didn't know him, I only saved the seeds. I wasn't in any hurry. The following year I grew it out in my garden. I still remember when I saw the first ripe fruit on there. Beautiful summer day right up to that point. I popped it off and took a healthy nibble and had what felt like an astral projection in my garden. Definitely an Icarus moment. When I finally found my way back to Earth and back into the house, I cut it open and saw beads of capsaicin on the placenta. As far as my endorphins could tell, it sure as hell (no pun intended) was the world's hottest pepper.

This was right around the same time that I was brought into a group of serious growers and friends called the C2C pepper company. Steve Foster, Beth Boyd, John Fiedler, Butch Taylor, Allen Boatman, Chris Phillips, and myself plus a few others. We would trade the seeds that we had, send each other stuff, etc. I distributed the Trinidad Scorpion seeds to them and Butch grew it out the next year. According to Butch, the TS had quite the mutation there in his Mississippi soil and he and Neil from the Hippy Seed Company had it sent off and it got itself placed into the Guinness Book of World Records!

Now for the sake of lineage, I do want to share that the original source (that I received fruit from over PM) sourced the plants from Valley View Nurseries in Cockeysville, Maryland. There's also an interesting back story there. A family member of the folks who own that nursery (possibly the person who founded the nursery) was named Punky Foard. Punky traveled to Trinidad and brought back not only the Trinidad Scorpion, but also a few other nice landrace peppers from Trinidad. Lots of people know the big names of people who breed and distribute peppers, but sadly Punky's name is not well-known. That's why I like to share the story, although it's interesting, it also honors Punky, and without him, we wouldn't have the Trinidad Scorpion. It's a shame that Punky passed away back in 2010, although I didn't know him, I imagine that he would have enjoyed the fact that the TS got into the Guinness Book, and that it was one of the drivers of the superhot craze.

Let's see if this shows up, it's a link to the review that I did of the Trinidad Scorpion (among others) back in 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/2021022...s/2138925/review-of-peppers-grown-2005-season

Bookmarked! Always nice to read a bit of background (hi)story.

 

[JAB Farms]

Surely! Here goes:

This is from post #39 on a thread interviewing Butch T: https://thehotpepper.com/threads/interview-with-butch-taylor.21528/post-450455

"Mark was on Gardenweb, but he was on a private (invite only) MSN pepper forum when I got the seeds from him, he acquired them
from another Chili head, from New Jersey also, who supposedly acquired them from Valley View Nursery (I think that was the name of the nursery). As far as seedsavers, I do believe I offered seeds as a member one year, wasn't too much interest back then, I don't recall sending out any seed at all for the Scorpion."

I am the Mark that he's referring to. The backstory is pretty interesting: I was a member of GardenWeb (my user name was Groovy1). Back then (2004-2006) the official word among general growers was that the Red Savina was the hottest of all the chiles, but the opinion among most on the forum who had grown a lot of peppers was that the chocolate chinenses were the hottest. Anyway, the discussion was being had about which was the hottest in the world, and it came up often. Sometime in the summer I got a PM from a member who wanted to trade seeds. I had a nice strain of Congo Black Habanero at the time and he offered me a few fruit from a pepper that he had gotten from a local nursery called the Trinidad Scorpion. He swore up and down that it was the hottest pepper in the world, etc., but at the time there were a lot of types that made the claim but ended up being in the neighborhood of a biker billy jalapeno or something along those lines.

So that trade was made in 2004, but I didn't eat the fresh fruit that he sent me, because I didn't know him, I only saved the seeds. I wasn't in any hurry. The following year I grew it out in my garden. I still remember when I saw the first ripe fruit on there. Beautiful summer day right up to that point. I popped it off and took a healthy nibble and had what felt like an astral projection in my garden. Definitely an Icarus moment. When I finally found my way back to Earth and back into the house, I cut it open and saw beads of capsaicin on the placenta. As far as my endorphins could tell, it sure as hell (no pun intended) was the world's hottest pepper.

This was right around the same time that I was brought into a group of serious growers and friends called the C2C pepper company. Steve Foster, Beth Boyd, John Fiedler, Butch Taylor, Allen Boatman, Chris Phillips, and myself plus a few others. We would trade the seeds that we had, send each other stuff, etc. I distributed the Trinidad Scorpion seeds to them and Butch grew it out the next year. According to Butch, the TS had quite the mutation there in his Mississippi soil and he and Neil from the Hippy Seed Company had it sent off and it got itself placed into the Guinness Book of World Records!

Now for the sake of lineage, I do want to share that the original source (that I received fruit from over PM) sourced the plants from Valley View Nurseries in Cockeysville, Maryland. There's also an interesting back story there. A family member of the folks who own that nursery (possibly the person who founded the nursery) was named Punky Foard. Punky traveled to Trinidad and brought back not only the Trinidad Scorpion, but also a few other nice landrace peppers from Trinidad. Lots of people know the big names of people who breed and distribute peppers, but sadly Punky's name is not well-known. That's why I like to share the story, although it's interesting, it also honors Punky, and without him, we wouldn't have the Trinidad Scorpion. It's a shame that Punky passed away back in 2010, although I didn't know him, I imagine that he would have enjoyed the fact that the TS got into the Guinness Book, and that it was one of the drivers of the superhot craze.

Let's see if this shows up, it's a link to the review that I did of the Trinidad Scorpion (among others) back in 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/2021022...s/2138925/review-of-peppers-grown-2005-season

I love it. That is an incredible story dude... Who knew we were in the presence of pepper royalty I didn't start growing seriously until 2010 when we moved here. We were in townhouse before here and I had cayenne and serrano plants planted in front yard... but nothing like the current setup... and Not to compete to your first time trying the Trinidad Scorpion moment, but I too, have had that moment where I try something fresh in garden and have that holy sh#t reaction... like what the hell did I just do. The first year I grew them, the Thai Dragon (later to be known as Santaka- i think) was an eye opening moment for me and neighbor (again not even close to heat level you endured) - who both grabbed and bit into. (that was in 2010). This year it was the Pink Tiger x Reaper's I was growing for my sisters BF. He is a chef and loves the flavors and heat peppers bring and he wanted me to help him grow these that intrigued him. I didn't think they'd be hot as most crossed peppers lose quite a bit. Well, that first pale-ish pink tiger x reaper that showed up - I chomped into. Immediately thought, wow, that's pretty good. Then the heat showed up. And kept coming For several tense moments - like you - then had to go for relief. Thankfully I have a known cut-in-half with Olive oil so did quick shot and was ok in minutes.