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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Apologies in advance for the qualities of the picture to come... I was swimming with my nephew, and taking some pictures of him going under water for the first time, and when we were done, I used the same under water camera to take pictures of my garden... needless to say, it is not the greatest camera topside.

Thanks for coming by Jamie! haha! yeah not too bad. I still have more potting up to do, more planting out to do, Its a never ending process I think, but I don't mind it!

haha, I think it was me Shane, While I was taking pictures, I knocked a few more on the ground.

I digress.

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Anaheim

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not sure
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Certainly the biggest Cayenne Pepper I've ever seen.

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I think thats all for now! :)
 
Oh well...don't go shooting yourself then. Plants/pods looking really good! Should have some massive harvests just around the corner!
 
haha.

yeah I'm stoked about that, there are maybe 400 or 500 chinense pods out there... So stoked.

~150 chinense plants, and most all of them (that are big enough) are loaded.
 
Another harvest - about 20 Thai Sun, a handful of Habaneros, a single Bhut Jalokia (ripe!), a Jalapeno, some Banana Peppers, and some cayennes... not an impressive amount (other than the Thai Sun, they all came off a single plant - the other two are about ripe as well, with a similar number of pods) all things considered.

They have been cut, seeded, smoked, and are on my dehydrator.

ALSO, I picked and ate my first Tomatillo yesterday! Thanks SCOVILLE!

Todays chores? weeding (crab grass), potting up the rest of the plants from Scoville (actually, I may just plant those out!), mixing more dirt, and going to my mothers (next door) to check her plants...

She called me this morning to tell me she has "mites", her description was "little white spec looking bugs that don't move". Fingers crossed for aphids.
 
Its not mites! Just an aphid.

Sprayed it off with the hose...

We have a pretty good volunteer Lady Bug Defense Force around, so I'm not too worried about them... Praying mantis hang out for the western box elder bugs, or whatever they are called...

Ken
 
Well, I spent the day taking inventory. I've been lax about updating my glist, I think in part because I can't possibly grow out everything I have seed for this season... I'm going to have to grow out a number of them next year. Which is weird... It isn't that I ran out of room, just time. So after the few hundred that are sitting on the tables now germinate (and after I get the rest of the veggies in), I'll be done starting new things for the year.

Corn is going to be planted out soon, I'm not sure if I'm early or late with the spinach haha.

Coriander is one that we grow a kings ransom of. I started about 100 more of those (they keep the bugs away, plus taste good in a salad :D).

Onions, Chives, Melons (will have 9 varieties this year of Melon), Squash (three different types), pole beans, gosh, too much to try and type out from memory.

Once everything is in the ground, I'll take some more pictures. Planning for about 50 Tomatillo plants :D!

As it turns out, I had just never seen a Tomatillo with fruit before, we have them growing wild in the pastures... Must have been in one of the rolls of hay the horses ate. I selected a few Volunteers, and didn't kill them. PLUS the seeds I was sent by one of the many wonderfull THP members, PLUS the Tomatillo plants a helpful THP member in tampa gave me, I'm going to be able to can them, hopefully.

All told, across all varieties of everything that I have seed for (I took inventory today), I have 4100+ seeds, of just shy of 200 varieties of Veggies (incl melons and peppers).

I was able to put some good stuff in the seed trains (I didn't write my name though). Going to be mailing those out tomorrow. Had to drop off my nephew this evening, but his mom didn't get home until after the PO closed... Didn't feel like taking him out twice. So tomorrow!! the PO is going to get like 17$ in postage from me tomorrow haha... Two seed trains, and four trades all going out.

I just learned we are under a Citrus quarantine... All my citrus trees (three different oranges, and a grapefruit) all died two years ago in the harsh winter we had. So I started trying to trade for some seeds on another forum (citrus), and was told I can't. Probably the only way is going to be finding someone in FL locally, that I can pick up some seeds from. That was a little discouraging. The nursery has been out for months (other than lemons, limes, and citrons haha).
 
Had a 7pot Jonah ripen today, first RIPE superhot of the season... I sliced it up and had it on my sandwich at lunch... It was great. Not as hot as I would have expected but *shrug* its still the first pod.

I Started some more things germinating... 200 corn, 30 Cilantro, spaghetti squash, zuchini squash, spinach, etc etc etc...

I filled up my side porch... I should take some pictures.
 
You should!

What kind of corn you putting in? Haven't had a Jonah...just brains, barrackpore, yellow and red...they were all :hot: !!! The yellow wasn't horrible, but the others were all BRUTAL! Hope you can get your citrus up and running! Can't buy a couple plants somewhere?
 
haven't had any luck at the local nurseries, nor at the big box stores. Home Depot/Lowes sell out the day they come in, and get 50-75$ for 2 gallon plants... Which i find rediculous. I'm about to go to a health food store and pick up some fresh oranges and grapefruit and get them going from seed... It'll be a while, but in the end it will have been worth it.

Two varieties of seed, one is ripe in 60 days, the other in 75. So I should get at least one good harvest from them, maybe two if the weather holds. They are already talking about horricanes... I'm looking out over my little deck and cringing at the idea of moving all of the cups inside:

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To the left (more shown of this one in the next picture) is mostly corn but with a couple cups each of butternut squash, cucumber, and romaine lettuce. The round thing in the middle is peppers with 4 or 5 cups of corriander, and to the right is mostly corn, with a couple cups each of spinach, zuchini and cucumber. You'll notice there is a lower level on the green thing to the right, it has about 30-40 cups on it all by itself (guesstimate). The graft is in the yellow bucket, still chugging away.

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This one you can see the corner of in the last picture, its mostly corn. I'll get the names and get back to you :). Also my green beans are showing in the back.

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Volunteer lettuce from last year, and some cuban oregano.
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Purple Mystery... The picture really doesn't do it justice. Its in the shade right now, I'll go back out later with my good camera (instead of my cell) and see if i can get a better picture. It stands in stark contrast to its neighbors - dark purple, with a short pointy thin dark purple pepper. Only thing I can figure is it came from the Oh-My-Aching-Back pepper mix I got from Amishland. Any guesses?

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Lastly a picture of the garden from the porch. everything in the 2 liter bottles and so forth is all in the ground now.

its about 2400 (40 x 60) sq ft. We are doubling that here in the next week or two in order to plant the rest of everything, we have another 2000 sq ft garden that will be filled in the next month as well.

soo much work :)
 
Hey, JCR, your garden space is just awesome! You are going to have
major room by the time you are done! You always have some great
projects going! The deck is outrageous with all those cups on it. Hope
you don't have to move them!

Have a good week, my friend!
 
Thanks Paul!

I've actually got another project I'm going to start tomorrow... I'm delving into the world of DIY Hydroponics.

I started looking into it, and discovered I had most of the stuff I'd need (other than Nutes...) to give it a try... I'll see how it goes... I'm told you need to dump and replace your water every two weeks... So I'll give two plants a two week test... Before and after pictures and all that... Should be fun.
 
Good for you, my friend! Will check on your results for sure.
Hydro sounds very interesting, will be watching closely!
How's the graft doing?
 
Goodness JS you have a ton of plants to put out . I am very jealous of all your space. Looks like my kind of place to live! You might think about entering that cayenne in the longest chili competition if you haven't already. :onfire:
 
I will! I am hoping he gets a bit longer before he's done haha :)

In the mean time, I bought/collected/prepared the parts to make my own DIY hydro system... should be interesting... I took one of the healthier seedlings (with its first set of true leaves, and transitioned him into it today... Pictures coming directly :)

Took about 20 of them in fact, and a short video of the bubbling action :D

gonna be a few since they are currently on my iPhone.

Alrighty folks, this is going to be a long post, full of pictures - more than will fit in a single post... So I'm going to need someone to post once this one goes live. Thanks in advance!

Alright... Having seen frosty, denniz, and some of the others with their fancy soil-less set ups, I decided I was going to try my hand at making my own hydroponics setup. I scoured the web for a few hours, got an idea of what I wanted to make and this is the result.

Materials:
1 Home depot 5 gallon bucket with Lid (~4.50$)
1 can black spray paint (.97$)
1 6" airstone (3.99)
1 6' section of air hose (3.99)
1 bottle Alaska brand kelp based hydro nutes (9.99)
1 double ported aquarium air pump (free off craigslist)
1 home made nettypot (plastic terra cotta style planter ~2$ at homedepot)

Method:
Took my trusty buck canoe knife and cut holes in the bottom and sides of the terra cotta pot.
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Then I marked, and cut a hole in the lid of the H.D. 5 gallon bucket.
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Test Fit
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The nutes:
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Added Nutes
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Added 6" airstone, and line
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made a notch in the lid for the airline
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Put flower pot through lid
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Filled with perlite and water
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Thats probably more pictures than it will let me post... if so I'll go back and clean itup, and wait until someone else posts to submit the rest.
 
Most oranges and citrus don't do well from seed. They're either raised a bit then grafted for better root stock or they're hybrids that don't produce the same from seed. They'll sprout and give you something, but no telling what, or if the root system will support good growth and disease resistance.

I only planted ornamental "parching" corn, but may put in a patch of sweet corn...maybe anyway. Looking good! I lived most of my life along the Gulf coast, so I hear ya about the hurricanes. I feared this would be a big storm year due to the mild winter. Good luck to everyone along the coast this year!
 
Here is the victim erm I mean next plant to die, subject of my experiment:
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Nice looking roots (washed them thoroughly, got all the dirt off, despite what you see in the picture).
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Carefully dug a hole in the middle, put the plant inside, activated the pump, and viola:
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Here is a video of all the brown bubbly goodness going on inside the bucket:

Click the last picture for a quick video of the bubbles...

Thanks for the post shane! been hoping someone would come along haha. Yeah you are right, most sweet oranges are grafted onto a sour citrus root stock. But frankly, I'm still willing to give it a shot :)

They are talking about it being average, which usually means for us, we are spared. Corn broke the surface this morning /stoked/.
 
All right, JCR - got the hydro goin'! Can't wait to see an 18" plant growing out of that bucket! What kind of pepper is it?
 
Thats actually a good question, it could be cumari, it could be galapagoense, or it could be "aji joes super hot mix".

Hoping for one of the first two :D
 
I hope it grows like crazy in your sustem!
 
Thanks Paul, I had written a bunch of tags in permanent marker which as it turns out bleaches out in the sun/rain pretty quick. the only visible letter is the faint outline of an a in lowercase.

which narrowed it down. PENCIL on my tags from now on :)
 
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