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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Nice Graft- ...you must be a guru... :rofl:
Glad your escaped the flamage...maybe it was scared of your pepper plants! I'm down on weather, subs on deck, so I'm playin catch up on the glogs! I MIGHT even bite the bullet and do the photobucket dance for the over wintered gang, and then I would have an actual timespan in my "not really a grow log!!!!"
 
Hey, Ken, great to see the cool graft pictures - the root emergence is just too weird.
I imagine they will just shrivel and die eventually? Good grafting, buddy! Or should
I say the Force is with you, O Graft Guru!

Also great to see your plants in the ground, sky is the limit now! I miss growing stuff
in raised beds, but container gardening has something to offer sore backs : ) If I
had more space, I'd probably do raised beds, anyway!

:fireball:Thanks again for the Thai Sun pods and Cayenne/chipotle powder, my friend. I'll
enjoy trying these out mucho! You are most kind

Enjoyed your fire scene reporting, but am glad it was only that, and that your family
was spared. Here's to good growing out your way!
 
:rofl:

LOL I don't really take the title seriously... I think I just got lucky once :)

I'm happy too... I bet the fire could smell the capsaicin, and decided to take another route. It put its hands up and was like :"nope... thats way too hot":.

You should, I'm always down for looking at other peoples pictures :P

Thanks Paul!

I am really happy the fire changed directions (as you can imagine).

There are 4 of them going now, but none are close, and all are just about out.

The fire dpt said they are related (caused by hot embers flying around), but how one fire 30+ miles away - upwind - could be related is beyond me.

I think that if they sit there and think about it, they'll change their minds on that.

the others are somewhat closer, 10miles, and 4 or 5 miles respectively.

I suspect the roots will shrivel up also... So far they are still there though!

One of my friends keeps pushing me to just plant the thing deeper... But as I pointed out to her, I cut the roots off the scion because I want the graft to survive off the host... If I let the graft grow roots, it will be providing for it self once more... her eyes went glassy, and she nodded... so you know she didn't understand, or purposely checked out part way through. *shrug*



glad you are enjoying the peppers, and powder!!

Ken
 
Well, I sent Smokemaster a message, and the weird "hybrid" as it turns out was from the Amishland oh-my-aching-back seed mix, its not a hybrid, but it is called "Amish Apple".

Thanks Mike!
 
Hi Ken! I lived on the other side of the state in '02, when we had the largest fire in the state's history, the Hayman fire. We were at least 30 miles from the burn site, and chunks of ash were covering our deck, and if you opened a window (we didn't have air conditioning there, only a whole house fan), the screens would be covered in ash within a couple of hours. It was scary stuff!

Congratulations on getting your stuff in the ground! Three more weeks until it should be safe to plant out here ... not that I'm counting or anything.
 
Wow, I'm so behind on posting here =(, just read about Spicy Chickens disaster... Thats terrible... he had such a nice setup...
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Any how, after my last post, I woke up to a grey yard and garden... A wind storm picked up, and covered everything with (cold) ashes from the fire... Such a huge amount of ash has put my blooming into overdrive... even my young chinense have set pods... I should have taken a picture of it, but I was kinda freaked out a little bit, and wanted to check things out, rinse off my plants, and make sure nothing had been damaged. Everything was fine, except as I said, my chinenses are blooming at 6 inches tall now. Probably all that K in the ashes I'd guess...

Any way I started another round of cups, ~20 galapagoense, and about 5 others, started pole beans, (more) parsley, coriander, basil, about 20 Tomatillos and so forth... Can't wait to see them pop.

Heading down to palm harbor tonight (half hour away I guess) to pick up some seedlings that are being given away on the market place! I've got tons of room, so I'm happy as a clam to pick them up, rather than see them tossed. Most of them are varieties I hadn't gotten to yet.

My heavy C. Praet is going to be my next graft experiment I think... Maybe C. Praet + C. Galapagoense (so long as I get some going, had trouble with the latter so far this season).

I potted up my graft experiment... he's in a 4.5 gallon bucket now, digging his new shoes. I'll see if I can't get some pictures today.

OH! So my "Butch T" as it turns out is a "Not-Butch-T". Pods are growing upright... I'll get a picture of that as well.

Lastly I've been weeding, and have almost all of it done. Cow weed grows so fast. I only weed on fridays, and from week to week it gets to be several feet tall with thorns... unpleasant.

Hi Ken! I lived on the other side of the state in '02, when we had the largest fire in the state's history, the Hayman fire. We were at least 30 miles from the burn site, and chunks of ash were covering our deck, and if you opened a window (we didn't have air conditioning there, only a whole house fan), the screens would be covered in ash within a couple of hours. It was scary stuff!

Congratulations on getting your stuff in the ground! Three more weeks until it should be safe to plant out here ... not that I'm counting or anything.

Does sound scary! This fire had the fire chief freaked out... We were having ~25mph winds, and so the fire was spreading like crazy. Said it was the worst fire he'd ever fought in his 30 years as a firefighter. Nothing like the worst in the states history though, thats crazy.

No AC in this state? No wonder you moved away haha.

haha I would be counting down the days as well! Good luck Bonnie!
 
As I was reading your post about the ash and the blooming pepper flowers the Talking Heads were running through my head with "Nothing But Flowers," so just in case you needed a soundtrack for you glog that could be one track.

Glad you're ok and things are under control.
 
WOW, just read a few pages of your grow log! 250 in the ground already, and I thought I had a lot of plants! lol. Need to sit down tonight on my laptop and read through your entire grow log, it's a must read! :) Keep up the great work, going to be a great season for you!

Melissa
 
Thanks Melissa!! Kind words indeed :).

Well I made it out to Scoville's house this evening, he had quite a few plants for me, and even gave me some superhot pods. Scoville if I'm mistaken on what they are please correct me... But I do believe one was a yellow Brain, and the other a yellow Moruga Scorpion.

The moruga was smooth, which kind of surprised me. the brain was pimpled, gnarled and twisted... It has a fantastic taste. The heat was good, but not overwhelming (did clear my sinuses though - tmi? lol). I will definitely be growing these out.

Tony really hooked me up, and I'm excited to grow out a number of the varieties he gave me. Plus I was able to hook him up with a few varieties of seed that he was looking for, so it was definitely a win win.
 
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Most of those are from Scoville! The white cups not withstanding of course.
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The graft is here on the left still doing well :) On the right are a couple I had to pot up, and the one with the more round leaves is my Heavy Pratermissum. Its growing like crazy... easily twice as big as the last time I took a picture:) !!

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Zoomed in on the Praet.

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My NOT-Butch-T.... Any ideas? I'm guessing some kind of Naga? Do any of them grow upright?

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another of the same plant!
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Pre-rain pepper Forrest... now knee high.
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post-rain
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One of our pedigreed Lionheads...

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My Pit Mix :) He's probably the best dog in the history of domesticated dogs...

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The other two... Which will eventually be good dogs :) but for now they are puppies...

Lastly, does anyone know what this bug is? As a kid, a friend of mines father (who also claimed roosters laid blue eggs) said these are called Indian Beetles... But I never did buy that... During summer (and when it hasn't just rained) there will be thousands of them on the trunks of trees. I've not seen them on my peppers, but I want to make sure they are not going to become an issue.

Ken.

arg, can't post more pictures until someone posts.
 
Dude! what happened to that cat and why is it a cage? You gonna feed it to your dogs?

But really your plants are looking awesome! Is there a rhyme to which went in the ground and which will stay in pots?
 
Back guys! Sorry for the delay, I went out and planted 35 more...

Nope, no rhyme or reason... They are just new, and haven't made it into the ground yet... I'm prone to isolating them to ensure I don't bring someone elses problems into my main garden.

I don't see any signs of problems, but the guy mentioned nematodes, which is something I have not yet had trouble with... So I'm going to pot them up, and keep an eye on them for a week or so. Plenty of room on that porch :), and a huge porch in back that is not yet covered in plants haha.

Bonnie, we think thats a magnolia tree... Dad was up in NC hiking in the woods and found 4 or so of them clustered together, so he dug them up, put them in his trunk, and brought them back to florida with him.

I'm not convinced though. The stalk has been yellow since he picked it (on some), though that one looks alright, I think its because it had the least root damage... the tallest is about 6', and anything not lignified is yellow, despite having fertilized it once.


Beehunter, we raise rabbits for show and food, so if it doesn't perform well at the show, and it doesn't throw attractive offspring, into the pot it goes :). The dogs do enjoy the bones though!

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Not sure exactly what this is, seeds said filius blue, but it has hair. Purplish flower as is the case with all of my purple flowers this year... Any ideas?

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Here is that bug. They don't seem to do any damage, but they are EVERYWHERE on my trees. So far they have avoided the garden completely. I did notice a bunch of pilbugs... My helper suggested they are bad for plants, but I've never heard that, don't see any damage, and see scores of pill bugs (and stink bugs).
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Had a blowing rain... Poor babies.
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Another Potential show rabbit

Testing to see if it will let me post more pictures or not...

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Dusty (the swayback), and Angel (the Blue Roan).

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This last one is for shane... its the base of my windmill... Its a good bit shorter as you can see :)
 
That bug reminds me of a box elder bug by its shape, but the color is different. I wonder if they are related. They are all over here right now, not really damaging the garden plants, just annoying. They get into houses and get in groups large enough to look like the beginnings of a new plague. Not sure if you have such a thing down where you are at, but that's what crossed my mind looking at your pic and description.
 
ahh yep, thats them. It seems they are a type of aphid, but a non-destructive one. They prefer the Golden Rain Tree seeds to my peppers. So as long as they stay away, I'll let them live, for now lol.


They are apparently prone to attracting mice. I'll have to think about it, but that alone might be reason enough.
 
Nice updates man! Hope the heat doesn't put the smack down on your plants. Having to post from my phone, still stuck in the barracks. Having to phone home and walk my son through plant checks. Looks like your windmill is about a foot shorter than mine. No rust issues on the West coast like I had along the gulf.
 
Nice updates man! Hope the heat doesn't put the smack down on your plants. Having to post from my phone, still stuck in the barracks. Having to phone home and walk my son through plant checks. Looks like your windmill is about a foot shorter than mine. No rust issues on the West coast like I had along the gulf.

So far they are digging the temps. Hopefully hot temps will = hot peppers :D

How long are you stuck in the barracks for?

That sounds about right. The rust came after the storm twisted the legs out of the concrete... The parts that have been buried rusted quickly. I have a tiny sand blaster, and have been cleaning and painting it slowly. but I haven't done the bottom of the legs yet, I need to pick up more sand (can't exactly recover it when you are sanding in a field!).



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So I was out in the garden picking Jalapenos for stuffing, when I found these guys on the ground. Stuck them in my window sill hoping they finish ripening soon.

On the agenda for today? Mixing more dirt, weeding, potting up, planting out. Oh and starting some spinach seeds I picked up the other day.
 
Looking good JSS. Your plants are really starting to take off. Sound like you are gonna be a sore mofo tomorrow :P
 
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