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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
yeah, that was my feeling Paul... But it is what it is, and considering the choices, it should tell us soon enough what type it is, the specific name will have to wait until pod time possibly.

Most of the Super Hot Mix were marked on the cup SHM, so I'm really pretty sure that its either Cumari, or Galapagoense.

*fingers crossed*

I started about 15 C. Galapas, and about the same Cumari, with only about 10 S.H.M., so the odds are favorable. Of course, knowing my luck, it'll be the 1 faded super hot mix that wasn't marked, and that one seed will turn out to have been an orange hab seed that fell in by mistake *lol*

I don't mind though, its easy enough to switch it out.

Also Shane, you should update your signature any time you change your threads title, as it changes the URL.
 
JCR with hydro power! Cant wait to see the results. Hoping it does really well. Seems like an easy system that doesnt cost to must or take up much space. Both of those make it perfect for me! Soooo how long do i have to wait to see if its working....
 
Thanks! I fully expected I would have done something wrong and killed it the first night.

To my surprise this morning it was still alive and kicking. So far it has exceeded my expectations. :D

I'll keep you posted! it was definitely cheap, and relatively easy to do (easier still if I had gone to the hydro store and spent 5$ on the nettypot, but still).

If it works well, I've planned a system that would take care of about 10 plants, and would cost about 50$ in materials. I've been looking at comparable systems priced much MUCH higher, and have considered selling them on Craigslist... If I can make one or two that work that is :)
 
I love your precision work on the pot with the buck knife. Surgical. I'm very curious how this turns out though, because wow, that looks alot cheaper than your typical hydro stuff. Nice work.
 
Thanks brother, it wasn't any where near as precise as I was hoping for... but it doesn't look bad once its all together. I'm going to keep an eye on the temps, I notice today the little cotyledons have a sun burn (white spots :( ), I think its the sun reflecting back up off the perlite. I saved the cutout from the lid with the hole in it... and I'm going to put that on tomorrow morning... I've got a laser temp checker, i'll check the temps now, and at the same time tomorrow without, and with the black cover, and see what happens. I'm also contemplating painting the bucket white... august can be brutally hot.

ALSO my Buck Knife broke... But that is what life time warranties are for :D
 
Pretty sure the sig still works...cut and paste it into your browser and see? I will try it, but I'm on my phone so might not work for me.

Yup still works! Just gotta add the www.
 
It does work! Mine wasn't until I updated it... weird.

Any how, I'm going to show a picture of my embarrassingly weedy garden in a little bit. /shame/

I picked (and ate) my first yellow 7 pod

One of my orange habs looked like a Moruga! Ate it too.

A friend of mine came by yesterday afternoon... He said he knew I liked peppers, and so he figured he'd bring me some... Brought me about 3lbs of some weird little red hab. its about an inch tall I guess. really tiny... I suppose they could be first fruits? either way they are QUITE a bit hotter than mine.

Got my pole beans in the ground, as well as more of my melons, cukes and eggplants.

Corn is going in soon, but not yet, going to give the ones that haven't come up a few more days while I hoe some rows.

Started some of Judy at Pepperlovers Capsicum SP blue mystery... Supposed to be a C. Exmium x baccatum (and possibly x cardenasii).

Should be interesting to say the least.

Also my hydro experiment is going well, the leaves have already grown quite a bit. It keeps sinking down into the medium all the way to its cotyledons... I keep pulling it up a half inch or so. hopefully the roots start going and it holds it self up on its own soon :)
 
Lastly I should mention I am going through the process of getting a permit to import germplasm from other countries (should cover 50 baggies of 50 seeds or less).

Which means I'm going to be hitting up the foreign germplasm banks here shortly.

C. Tovarii here I come :)
 
It's a good idea to pain the bucket white so it doesn't absorb so much heat. Sure can be hard to keep the reservoir temperatures low.

I made a 10 pot DWC system myself out of different parts. Still not happy with the temperatures even though my buckets are white. I know some people use foil to reflect the light, dunno if that's a lot more effective than painting it white?
 
I'm not sure either... So far my temps have been good... But its getting shade during the hottest part of the day, and only getting direct sun in the morning and evening... So I'm hoping that should help. Being up on my porch (10+ feet off the ground) its relatively windy, and I think that is helping me with the temps.

I painted it black back when it was my graft healing chamber (during the winter). I've been thinking about painting white over the black. They say black is good because it blocks out more light, and thus helps keep the algea under control. White over black might help reflect the heat back out as well.

I know when it comes to direct heat, foil works well... There is a certain computer problem that affects HP dv6 series laptops that requires a heat gun to re-flow the solder. OBV you don't want to do this across the whole motherboard, so we used aluminum foil to help protect the rest of the board... It worked wonders.

You would want some kind of insulative air space between the foil and the bucket, otherwise it would be like a foil wrapped baked potato I should think.
 
The little red habs may have been paper lanterns. They are pretty darn hot! Neil from The Hippy Seed Company did a video review of them. Good job so far on your hydro. Be careful pulling it back up, you may be damaging the new small roots! You might try cutting a ring of styrofoam with a slot in it to fit around the base of the stem to hold it up until the roots set in. Ripe supers already huh? Wow, I sure love to hate you Floridians! My July-September I am hoping the cool Cali evenings will start to make you guys jealous instead!
 
Thanks Paul, I had written a bunch of tags in permanent marker which as it turns out bleaches out in the sun/rain pretty quick. the only visible letter is the faint outline of an a in lowercase.

which narrowed it down. PENCIL on my tags from now on :)

I've had better luck with the paint pens you can find in the craft section, than permanent markers. There is a way to still use the permanent markers though. With the milk jugs I use for wintersowing seeds, I put a piece of colored electrical tape on the jug and then write on that. For some reason it doesn't fade as fast off the tape, as it does the jug itself.
 
pretty good, not quite as flavorful as the yellow brainstrain... Still quite hot. The A could also be from Peruvian Yellow AJI, there are pubescense on it (underside of leaves and on stem), so that might narrow it down a bit. Galapagoense is hairy, and I think the AJI's are hairy as well.

That was something I've been worrying about Shane! Foam ring isn't a bad idea, I've been considering increasing the amount of perlite as well, as is the bubbles rise to the surface, and the bublles move the perlite around. The roots on that bad boy are already pretty long, so perhaps if he were higher up, his roots would still be in the nutes, but the bubbles wouldn't move him.

hmm thats not a bad idea either Bonnie. Have you had pencil bleach out on you?

Also thanks for stopping by :)
 
well its been a blustery day today. been raining off and on all day, at one point I bet we got an inch in an hour.

The perlite flushed through the bottom of the pot (pushed by the rain), and my little pepper plant became a submarine :D

I saw it a short time ago and pulled him out... The nutes I used are fit for foliar spraying as well, so I'm hoping he doesn't get fried.

I re-placed the perlite, poured the rain water off (blowing rain, everything got soaked).

While fishing him out, I happened to notice his once white roots are now brown. (brown = bad). I'll need to figure out whats going wrong.
 
Good luck getting your DIY hydro grow squared away, JCR.
Hope your grow didn't get waterlogged! We've had rain, about
1 and 1/3 inches in 3 days, so nothing like you guys are having!
How's the hurricane forecast looking?
 
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