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PaulG 2012

I'm chomping at the bit to get started with some new chilli varieties this coming Spring. So far I've just scratched the surface with Poblanos, Jalapenos and Serranos, all of which I really like. I've been egged on by a new Second Generation Mejicano neighbor as we've talked about hot chillis over the back fence! He helped me make some Pico de Gallo with my Serranos and Early Girl tomatoes and has some great recipes from his mother and grandmother. Hopefully I'll be able to share some of them on this forum in the future. I need to grow more Cilantro. Oh yeah!

I've ordered seed from several sources which received at least a few good comments on this forum (6/12 - items crossed out did not germ, or weren't planted this year):

US Hot Stuff:
Bolivian Rainbow
Yellow Peter
Nosegay
Trinidad Scorpion (from Spankycolts)
Devil Tongue

The Hippy Seed Company: Seed Packet Mixes
NuMex Twilight (from Siliman)
Yellow Jellybeans
Tom Thumbs
Wild Texas Tepin

Refining Fire: Seed Packet Mix
Scotch Bonnet
Chocolate Habanero
Jamaican Red Mushroom

New Mexico State University:
Chiltepin
Omnicolor
Red Carribean Habanero
Orange Habanero

Pepper Gal:
Aji Yellow (request from a Peruvian friend of ours!)
Thai Hot

Peppermania:
Inca Lost
Fatali
White Habanero (from Spanky)
Red Savina (cross with Fatali, from Spanky)
Bishop's Crown
Inca Red Drop
Orange Rocoto
Congo Trinidad

I doubt I will be able to try all of these out this year, but I have saved my seeds in small glass jars with tight-fitting lids for storage over the next year. I have been saving seed from other garden produce and have had good luck with germinating them after two or even three years. The jars are stored in boxes in the garage for a cool dark location for them. I have ordered several compact varieties with an eye toward trying to winter over some of my plants this year. Since I didn't even know peppers were perennial, I can say I've already learned something from this forum!


I purchased a small greenhouse from One Stop Gardens (via Harbor Freight) for $300 four years ago. This is one of the greenhouse kits I've noticed in the greenhouse advertsing bar at the bottom of some of the pages on this forum. This picture is from Spring/ Summer 2011. You can see my tomato and pepper starts on the sheves. I winter over some bonsai trees and jade plants as well as geraniums, begonias and Gerbera Daisies. In the winter, I use a small space heater (visible on ground in the picture) to keep the temp at 40F during the few cold weeks we experience here. So far it has worked pretty well. If overwintering pepper plants becomes a reality I'll be making more room in the greenhouse! I've started a thread in the Grow Tech forum to discuss issues which crop up with these units.

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January 14, 2012:

Composting:

Okay, I need to do something outside. I know, I'll dig out a compost bin. We've had a little dry cool weather, so the worms have burrowed down, and the compost is crumbly, if a tad wet.

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The first step - dig out the bin and sift the material. I use a homemade frame with a layer of 1/4 inch plastic hardware cloth backed with a layer of one inch mesh poultry netting. The fine stuff goes into the wheelbarrow, the coarse stuff into an adjacent compost bin we're still building up.

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The bin on the left is covered to keep the leafy material dry and fluffy. The dry leaves are an important layer in the compost 'cake'. The bin on the right is the one I'm digging out. Nice, dark and crumbly with lots of worms! The sifter is on the wheelbarrow, and some of the coarse stuff is already on the active compost bin in the middle. The bin in the back is resting for several of months. It has a black plastic hardware cloth cover to keep out squirrels and racoons.

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The bin is all dug out. I left about two inches of broken up compost on the bottom of the hole to create a space for the worms to move into. You can see the bin in the middle has a layer of coarse stuff spread out on the top.

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The last step is to put a nice deep layer of dry leaves on the bin we just dug out. Now that bin will rest for a at least several months or more while the earthworms move into the compost/earth interface and do their work. That will make a great base for the next cycle of composting in this bin. I put a thin layer of leaves on the middle bin, too. Now there's a nice layer cake of dirt/compost, leaves. kitchen scraps. All small yard clippings except grass go into the compost bins, even tomato vines and pepper branches and twigs. I don't even chop stuff up too much. I try to have at least 10 or 12 layers of stuff built up before I cover the bin with a layer of dirt/compost and let the worms work for several months. I'm getting about 12-18 cubic feet of compost from these bins a year. My goal is to become 'soil self-sufficient' at some point, perhaps only having to procure horticultural pumice or vermiculite and some peat moss every so often.

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The good stuff. It will go into a plastic, vented storage bin for at lest eight weeks to cure a bit. Then I mix it with a little peat moss and some vermiculite or pumice for aeration. In my large containers, I add 2 or 3 inches of compost worked into the top of the container only every year. I try not to mix up the soil layers in the big containers very much, letting the nutrients percolate down through the soil as in a natural setting. As the blog continues this summer, I'll include photos of the irrigation system and containers I use to grow my tomatoes and peppers, and a few other things.
 
Great Glog PaulG. I wish you the best of luck this season. I like the wire transplanting tool too. I might have to find me one. I just started using those trays this year instead of Jiffy pucks so we just have to wait and see how I do without one.

Can't wait to see what you produce this year.
 
Great Glog PaulG. I wish you the best of luck this season. I like the wire transplanting tool too. I might have to find me one. I just started using those trays this year instead of Jiffy pucks so we just have to wait and see how I do without one.

Can't wait to see what you produce this year.

Thanks, GT. i'm glad you are following along; I know there are a LOT of grow logs, so I'm honored you took the time.
I made the wire tool from some 14 ga. (I think) steel wire from Ace Hardware. You can knock one out in 30 seconds.

I appreciate the good vibes! Fingers crossed I don't get in nature's way.
 
2/4 No new germination - day 13

Started some new seeds today (saw them in our local 'Kroger'​
store) after soaking overnight in distilled water:​
Red Habanero - Lily Miller​
Hungarian Hot Wax - Hume​
Anaheim - Lily Miller​

The transplants are looking good; survival of the fittest! I'll snap​
a few pics in the next day or two; not much happening in the germination​
'chamber' - still waiting on some ornamentals and some white habanero.​
 
Lol...the list grows faster than the plants!


Anaheim and Hungarian wax nice additions hmmm now you got me think about adding more.

I know, I know. :rofl: Couldn't resist. I mean there they were right on the rack.
I rationalized it by viewing them as replacements for possible no shows in this
round of germination. There are some bumps in the dirt in some of the ornamental cells.
Guess those tiny seeds take a while to pop!
 
Lol I am trying to figure out spacing right now to see if I could fit a few more hopefully I can or I might have to start handing a few out deciding which one will be hard as well.
 
Lol I am trying to figure out spacing right now to see if I could fit a few more hopefully I can or I might have to start handing a few out deciding which one will be hard as well.

I feel your pain. I guess there is always room for one more!
 
2/5 - Showing hooks today - day 14:

All in orchid mix!

1x chocolate habanero - RF
1x yellow aji - PG
1x white habanero - PM
1x - fatali - PM
1x - red caribbean - NMSU

Some of these puppies seem to want to take their own sweet time!
Odd that all of these have sprouted from the orchid mix. The fatali
and the red caribbean sprouted in transplanted cells. So, the data's
not all in, yet, folx; "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings". This is such a
small sample that it seems ludicrous. These seedlings will make a
difference in the data!
 
Glad to hear you got some late germ action! I had a Bhut Indian Carbon come up after a month and was elated. A Choc Hab had a seed cap stuck (it became a stump) appears to be growing a leave now. The late victories are bonus.

Also good to hear you're starting another wave. That Hung Wax is my favorite fresh right off the vine. Sweet, moist, crunchy and a bit o zing. The wife-unit is always trying to rob it early when she's picked all the available Anaheims.... :cool:
 
Glad to hear you got some late germ action! I had a Bhut Indian Carbon come up after a month and was elated. A Choc Hab had a seed cap stuck (it became a stump) appears to be growing a leave now. The late victories are bonus.

Also good to hear you're starting another wave. That Hung Wax is my favorite fresh right off the vine. Sweet, moist, crunchy and a bit o zing. The wife-unit is always trying to rob it early when she's picked all the available Anaheims.... :cool:

It seem odd to be counting sprouts one-by-one! But, I know what you
mean - a little celebration dance when another pops up! I decided to start
the hung wax and the anaheims just because there have been so
many favorable comments about them on the forum! The little fatali that
came up today has a seed cap on it. The only one out of all of them!

Thanks for checking in Sman!
 
2/6 - Showing hooks today - day 15:

Orchid mix:

2x chocolate habanero - RF
1x poblano - Hume
1x congo trinidad - PM
1x - orange rocoto - PM
1x - marconi rosso - Hume

Soil mix:

1x white habanero - PM
1x wild texas tepin - THC

Amazing that there has been a mini-flurry of germination, especially in
the transplanted cells. I'm thinking that as the time frame stretches out,
the orchid mix is catching up with the soil mix. It will be time to snip
out the less vigorous seedlings, but I want to wait for at least a few days
to see what develops. Perhaps some of the new seedlings will be more
robust than the quick germinators? I think it's time to go with the 18/6 light schedule.
Had to buy a little timer, dang. Sort of destroys my jury-rigging scrounging for
materials!

I did get three computer fans from my neighbor, but the foil tent is not at all conducive
to using them, so now I have to figure out what to do to get a set-up that is solid enough
to support the fans. I just don't have much space besides my little 2' x 4' table top.
Please, please get here warmer nights so i can put these in the greenhouse ; ) I'll probably
be on the table top for another month to six weeks. What do you think, other PacNWesters?

Updated germination table:

(2/5: New germinating seeds have changed this - they are almost equal, now.)
(2/6: Orchid mix now outperforming soil mix in the extended time frame!)
(2/7: The percentages are all coming into agreement with each other.)

Party guys = 80% or better: Party guys deleted because of fascist emoticon rules.
Replaced with asterix. :silenced:

name of pepper.....................# in orchid mix....................# in soil mix..........total
yellow aji PG.................................1/3...................................1/3....................2/6
chocolate habanero RF................3/3...................................2/3....................5/6*
bolivian rainbow USHot................3/3....................................2/3....................5/6*
serrano Hume...............................2/3...................................3/3 ...................5/6*
fatali PM........................................3/3...................................2/3....................5/6* k
congo trinidad PM........................2/3...................................3/3 ....................5/6*
red caribean NMSU.....................2/3....................................3/3 ...................5/6*
chiltepin NMSU.............................0/3...................................2/3....................2/6
long red cayenne Ferry Morse.....3/3 ..................................2/3....................5/6*
poblano Hume..............................2/3...................................3/3....................5/6*
inca red drop PM..........................3/3 ..................................2/3....................5/6*
omnicolor NMSU...........................2/2 ................................2/3.....................4/5*
bishop's crown PM.......................2/2 .................................2/3....................4/5*
marconi rosso Hume....................2/3...................................3/3 ...................5/6*
early jalapeno Hume.....................3/3 .................................3/3 ...................6/6*
orange rocoto PM.........................2/2...................................0/2...................2/4
white habanero PM.......................1/3..................................1/3...................2/6 neither survived

totals.......................................36/48 (75%).................36/50 (72%).......72/98 (73.5%)*


underlined brown numbers are updates

The orchid mix germination rate is about 104% that of the soil mix over all.
You can draw your own conclusions from this tiny sample.
Just kidding about the fascist emoticon rules. I understand.
 
2/6 time to snip out the less vigorous seedlings,

I pulled my doubles up...wasn't even particularly careful snapped a couple of their roots...Stuck them in the dirt and they toppled over but they ALL recovered and grew. Even the ones with snapped roots! Might not be the right/best way, but then you can grow them out a little longer and see how they develop. I quit planting 2 per pellet after my first round because the germ rates were high enough that I didn't feel the need to use that many extra seeds.
 
I pulled my doubles up...wasn't even particularly careful snapped a couple of their roots...Stuck them in the dirt and they toppled over but they ALL recovered and grew. Even the ones with snapped roots! Might not be the right/best way, but then you can grow them out a little longer and see how they develop. I quit planting 2 per pellet after my first round because the germ rates were high enough that I didn't feel the need to use that many extra seeds.

Pretty amazing, indeed. You are the man with the green thumbs, Shane! I see what you mean about one seed per cell. I had no idea what would happen in my setup. I'd try to separate some of them, but have no room for more than one of each variety and I don't want to mess up the main seedling. Next season will be different!!
 
Nice germination rates Paul, pretty even between the two mixes....some seeds are just stubborn. I occasionally see a seed pop up in a container with an established plant.

Greg
 
Thanks, Greg. I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I would like to see a few more
ornamentals pop up. I guess seeds are like people : )

It is interesting that the orchid mix has caught up. I don't know whether it just takes
longer in orch mix, or if I unconsciously did something different to those. I tried to
standardize the procedure as much as possible.
 
It's good to see you still have stuff popping out. I'm waiting for a couple different chocolate/congo habaneros, but thinking they might just be really slow germinators. Looks like you've had some come in a bit late, so I continue to hope
 
Right on, Pulpiteer! One of my choc hab seed cells took two weeks,
and then all three came up at once. Hang in there!
 
2/7 - Showing hooks today - day 16:

Orchid mix: none today

Soil mix:

1x black pearl - THC
1x poblano - Hume

Total so far: 74

The only seeds that have not germinated yet are the Yellow Jelly Beans, Nosegay,
Tom Thumbs, and NuMex Twilight. I should be able to get two decent seedlings
out of most of the other varieties.

Germination table above updated.
 
2/8: no new germinations today - day 18.

I'm thinking the germ phase is pretty much over. There may be a few late arrivals, still.
I will update the germination table if that happens. I'm not giving up on the no-shows, yet!
Still not much luck with the ornamentals (not included in the germ table):

w.t. tepins - THSC - 4/6
explosive ember - THSC - 2/6
yellow jellybeans - THSC - 0/6
nosegay - USHot - 0/6
tomb thumbs - THSC - 0/6
numex twilight - THSC - 0/6

Total 6/36, 16% seeds; 2/6, 33% varieties.

Maybe somebody has an idea why I got poor results with these (except the w.t. tepins).
I treated them just like the other seeds, and I'm thinking the quality is good, cuz they're from
reputable vendors. Maybe they need something a little more specialized? I won't try them
again until next year.

Side note: I hooked up a couple of computer fans on the grow table. They are moving the
seedlings all right, but my temp goes down from 83-ish to 73-ish. With the lights 18/6 (dark 12a-6a)
the temp drops to the ambient 60's at night. This is not a good thing. Do I need to run the
fans all the time, or is a couple of hours a day enough? Maybe the 'dark' should be during the day so
the heat is up during the nighttime. I'll search the site for this topic, but in the meantime.... thanks in advance.
 
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