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PaulG 2019

No grow log for the 2018 season other than the Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques
thread dedicated to Trippa's cross. That one is an ongoing community project going into
second year and a test of the F7 generation. I imagine I will mention it once-in-a-while in
this thread, but the details of its progress will be in the dedicated thread.
 
I am deciding on a grow list for the 2019 season after growing only Trippa's cross this
season (2018). I definitely have some old favorites that will comprise the great majority
of the grow. I have limited space, so I'm counting on nature to help me make the final
decision. I'll probably start lots of seeds since I'm gun-shy from the poor germination
rates the past couple of seasons.
 
Here's the pool. Would be nice to be able to grow a bunch of all of them!  I think my
neighbor will shelter the overflow in his yard, but we'll see what to plant and how many
based on what might germinate  :rofl:
 
c. chinese - 10 varieties: 
  • PdN x BMJ, F7, white and violet varieties, Trippa's cross
  • Fatali, F2 of seed from Pepper Joe's
  • 7 Pot Burgundy, brown phenotype, pecan shape from 2017 F2 of the 7PB from Windchicken 
  • Scotch Bonnet, MoA, F2 of seeds from John/Sim, not high production, but some nice pods
  • JA Red Habanero, F5 of seed from Walk Good/Devv
  • Yellow Scorpion, F7 aka Yellow Trinidad Moruga Scorpion and CARDI Scorpion, from Spankycolts plant 2012
  • Bhut Jolokia, Red, F4, from Spankycolts plant 2012
  • Bhut Jolokia, Chocolate, F3 of seed from Georgia Growhead
  • Bhut Jolokia, hybrid, F2 - I believe it is a  (BJred) x (Pdn x BMJ F1 or F2)
  • Yellow 7 Pot, F2 of seed from Trippa 2013
c. annuum - 4 varieties:
  • JA Red Mushroom, F3, brown phenotype, seed from Refining Fire
  • Pimenta de Padron - Spanish seed, fry up while small and green, throw on some salt
  • Pimenta del Piquillo - Spanish seed, sweet, very flavorful, small stuffers
  • Guindilla - Spanish seed, spicy heat, great pickled, long and skinny
c. frutescens - 2 varieties:
  • Nagahari from Tezpur, India, supposedly very, very hot freebie from Pepper Joe's 2017
  • Chili Costa Rica, F2 (2014) from Hippy Seed Company seed, 2012
c. pubescens - 1 variety:
  • Red Rocoto, F3 of Peruvian Market seed, 2016
That about does it. Seeding time will be here before we know it!
 
 
 
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Bicycle808 said:
Paul, that's a killer list you got there! I look forward to checking your grow out as events unfold...
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Thanks, Rob!  I'm holding my breath for a few of these
old-timers to germinate. Almost all of these are legacy
varieties of my own seed, so hoping for the best.
 
AvidLiving said:
What's the oldest pepper plant you had or have grown?

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Usually, I like to use the freshest seed possible,
so usually only 1 or 2 years old. Since I didn't
grow anything but Tristen's cross in the 2018
season, all my seeds are at least two seasons
old. This is the first time I've tried to germinate
some of the older seed, so I'm mentally prepared
to start over in a couple of weeks if the germ rate
is poor! 
 
The Russians germinated some thousands of
years old seeds, so this should work. :pray:
 
PaulG said:
Usually, I like to use the freshest seed possible,
so usually only 1 or 2 years old. Since I didn't
grow anything but Tristen's cross in the 2018
season, all my seeds are at least two seasons
old. This is the first time I've tried to germinate
some of the older seed, so I'm mentally prepared
to start over in a couple of weeks if the germ rate
is poor! 
 
The Russians germinated some thousands of
years old seeds, so this should work. :pray:
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I think I understood but what about oldest plant kept alive! My bell is about 2 years old now pumping out a consistent supply year round.

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AvidLiving said:
I think I understood but what about oldest plant kept alive! My bell is about 2 years old now pumping out a consistent supply year round.
Sorry, I didn't get your drift.
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I had a bronchi Fatali that lasted four seasons. It was from a
three-year old plant, so I guess that's a total of seven years.
The last year or two, it didn't produce much. Since then I
haven't done much overwintering.  It seems like the effort
and expense of keeping plants during the winter isn't cost
effective in terms of time, etc. In my own mind, small as it is,
it's easier to just start new seeds each year. 
 
Maybe if I decide to splurge this winter I'll try to keep a few
plants overwinter in the greenhouse with a small space heater
and maybe even a light fixture. I have power to the greenhouse
via a semi-permanent  extension cord set-up. I was looking over
some of my old grow logs the other day, and I had some decent
success with the OWs a couple of times.
 
That's cool that your bell just keeps on trucking'!
 
Bicycle808 said:
Last year, some dude on the Facial Book was germinating Bonnet seeds he claimed came from the late 90s. He has a really good germ rate (70%+, I think?) But they did take a really long time....

I'm feeling optimistic about your chances, Paul.
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I agree with Rob, seeds are designed to basically be dead until they hit soil. From my own experience, Ive had seeds like basil, banana peppers and onions germinate well and the expiration date was about 3 years earlier. Plus back in the early 2000s I grew some of my stepfathers Mary Jane from seed that was definitely a couple years old. I think youre gonna have greater success than you think Paul ‍♀
 
PaulG said:
If they are difficult to get out of the cups w/o damaging
them, just cut them off below the surface as far down as
you can, maybe even with a little root attached.
 
They should root in a few weeks.
 
Good luck if you decide to go that route.
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I pulled a few sprouts with varying amounts of roots and put them to soak in 6ml test tubes. If they live a few days I may plant them back into dirt.
 
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Oh, yeah, those will do just fine in the
water with those roots already established.
Might not even hurt to put a smidgen of fert
(like, a tiny smidgen) in the tubes.
 
If there is a long tap root, you can cut the
tip off, and the root will branch out.
 
I think you will be planting all of those!
Space issues?   ;)
 
PaulG said:
Oh, yeah, those will do just fine in the
water with those roots already established.
Might not even hurt to put a smidgen of fert
(like, a tiny smidgen) in the tubes.
 
If there is a long tap root, you can cut the
tip off, and the root will branch out.
 
I think you will be planting all of those!
Space issues?   ;)
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Very good. I have these in half-strength 3-1-2 solution using 6.0 pH water. I pulled 6 more too. They mostly came out with nice roots. I nipped the tap roots of the new ones and will do the originals when I change the water. How often should I change the water?
 
No space issues. I need 100 main crop plants to grow out for outside transplant in spring. Now I have 74 plants plus seeds still germinating. I have 10 in the water and can probably pull and water plant another 10. These should be way ahead of new seed sprouts. Soon I'll do my inventory of individuals and germinate what I need to fill it out properly. I'll also do some starts of arcane varieties I really like that aren't to be a part of my commercial crop.
 
If I wasn't so slow and lazy about germinating seeds I'd be way ahead instead of getting behind. Oh well.
 
DWB said:
 
Very good. I have these in half-strength 3-1-2 solution using 6.0 pH water. I pulled 6 more too. They mostly came out with nice roots. I nipped the tap roots of the new ones and will do the originals when I change the water. How often should I change the water?
I used to change the water when the level dropped a little. No real rule of thumb.
No space issues. I need 100 main crop plants to grow out for outside transplant in spring. Now I have 74 plants plus seeds still germinating. I have 10 in the water and can probably pull and water plant another 10. These should be way ahead of new seed sprouts. Soon I'll do my inventory of individuals and germinate what I need to fill it out properly. I'll also do some starts of arcane varieties I really like that aren't to be a part of my commercial crop.
 
If I wasn't so slow and lazy about germinating seeds I'd be way ahead instead of getting behind. Oh well.
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Good luck getting all that together.
That will be quite a grow  :clap: All those little
'clones' will be rockin' your season!
 
Ghostpepperevolution said:
I agree with Rob, seeds are designed to basically be dead until they hit soil. From my own experience, Ive had seeds like basil, banana peppers and onions germinate well and the expiration date was about 3 years earlier. Plus back in the early 2000s I grew some of my stepfathers Mary Jane from seed that was definitely a couple years old. I think youre gonna have greater success than you think Paul ‍♀
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Thanks for the ups, Bobby. I will definitely hold that 
positive thought going forward.
 
Thanks for the water/fert info Paul.
 
The new transplants are looking very pleased in their test tubes this morning. I'll definitely do at least 10 more. The Hay Bale Pepper Patch will be wanting a lot of plants ;)
 
Well,well, a YBS hook on The first day of 2019
Seed from Pepper Guru, from a pod he sent out with
The Aji Lemon Drop sauce from the 2017 GrowDown.
Planted on 12/26, six days to hook. Thanks, Rich
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Thanks, John, you're right. At least I know my
propagator didn't kill all of them   :rofl:
That's pretty quick, hope it's a good omen!
 
:cheers:  to you, my friend and to a great 2019
grow season!
 
A second Yellow Brainstrain hook emerged today. 
The freshest seed and the first to germinate!
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Trying some new products this season...

Beneficial bacteria supplement I'm using for trans-
planting seedlings. 
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For potting up to larger containers. Bone Meal, Osmocote, and Mykos
go into the soil. The transplants get watered in with the B-1 and
molasses:  
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