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Pepper eaters vs. Growers

7potquezada

7potquezada

How are they viewed from both perspectives?
 
One consumes and craves the pods but doesnt produce them.
 
While the other loves and produces them, knows and understands the plant far more.
 
Is one lesser or greater than the other?
 
Whats your guy's take on the contrasting differences between the two?
 
Nightshade said:
I understand not growing them they can be a pain to grow sometimes plus short seasons money constraints and a lot of stuff interfere with growing. I personally grow because I enjoy the whole process from seed to fruit. I also like the limitless possibilities of which variety I can taste if I grow it I can taste it.
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yup I could not have said it better
 
Yes, gotcha thinking though didn't it?
I'm just checking out all the differences ya know?
The pepper community is pretty darn awesome.
 
In general,I don't think anyone who doesn't like peppers would have gotten into growing them in the first place,for any reason.
For sales or their table.

These days a TON of weeds are sold at stupid high prices to eateries for lots of $.

Yes peppers CAN be a growers choice but I think most growers of anything had or have a taste/interest for what they grow in the first place.

I'm talking about stuff other than wheat corn etc.

I think it's a specialty crop for what types of peppers you are talking about.
These days I don't see it profitable to grow 1000+ acres of super hots for the market in general.
Other stuff is more marketable in general.

Just see the drop in price this season compared to seasons before for fresh and dried supers...

Lot of people are only making ends meet these days selling pods.
I saw up to $300.lb for dry supers not long ago...
Try and get that now.
Not going to happen.

Peppers you are talking about are a limited market.

Consumers are just people who can't grow their own.
Probably get the best deal in the long run.

Like fishing,I can spend X amount of $ floating around on my boat.
Gas etc. costs more than I could have hit up the store for and purchased fish for in the long run.

Consumers might just be smarter people...
 
Can't get super hots or even decent jalapenos at most stores in my town so I grow. Sometimes I buy off the internet when I am inbetween and desire fresh not frozen or dried. I grow 365 days a year using all my space in my basement using HID lighting. Lights are stupid cheap here because of the now legal marijuana laws. (Colorado) We Grow lettuce, and all veggies in winter in raised beds in the basment  and transplant outside in June. I currently have 400 going and will ad 128 plus every 4 weeks. I start seedlings in 4 trays with 32 cells http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/BrainStrainPepperhead/Seedling1_zpsb6daedef.jpg and then transplant to 4-6 inch pots. http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/BrainStrainPepperhead/1st4week_zpscb28e123.jpg Mine get transplanted in 5 gallon root pouch pots the rest in 1-3 gallon nursery pots for resale at the local farmers market.
 
Brain Strain Pepper Head said:
Can't get super hots or even decent jalapenos at most stores in my town so I grow. Sometimes I buy off the internet when I am inbetween and desire fresh not frozen or dried. I grow 365 days a year using all my space in my basement using HID lighting. Lights are stupid cheap here because of the now legal marijuana laws. (Colorado) We Grow lettuce, and all veggies in winter in raised beds in the basment  and transplant outside in June. I currently have 400 going and will ad 128 plus every 4 weeks. I start seedlings in 4 trays with 32 cells http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/BrainStrainPepperhead/Seedling1_zpsb6daedef.jpg and then transplant to 4-6 inch pots. http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/BrainStrainPepperhead/1st4week_zpscb28e123.jpg Mine get transplanted in 5 gallon root pouch pots the rest in 1-3 gallon nursery pots for resale at the local farmers market.
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That is pretty cool BSPH, and sure dwarfs my +/- 50 plants under a single 600W bulb. Besides the peppers which I realize you can't get if you don't grow, does the savings at the grocery store offset the energy costs of that operation? 
 
Oh very much so I use 4 HID 1000 watts set for 16 hour days and my electric is only $60 to $80 more per month and I average $300 per month in fresh veggies with no GMO or pesticides. My family and I turned vegetarians 2 years ago when I tried everything to control my weight/blood pressure and nothing worked. If I ate a piece of meat that was treated with growth hormones as all commercial meat is now days, I got the growth hormone too. Use to weigh 300 and all I have done is cut out meat and lost 125 pounds in one year by just removing meat and no fast food. Yep very much worth the cost for fresh food and good health.
 
7potquezada said:
Is one lesser or greater than the other?
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I also find the question disturbing. We are all different. Our differences do not make any of us better/worse or greater/lesser than another - differences are just differences, and we need our differences for us to work well. We cannot all be specialists in the same thing, else other needs are unmet. No, you didn't make me think about the differences, you made me think how sad it is that people try to one-up each other and build walls instead of appreciating that we each simply have different strengths and weaknesses and learning to use each other's strengths to better the whole. 
 
Doctors receive a lot of training, and have to have a certain level of understanding in order to do their jobs. Computer programmers also receive a lot of training, and have to have a certain level of understanding in order to do their jobs. But is one smarter than the other simply because their knowledge sets are different? No. We need doctors and we need computer programmers in today's world. We would not be better off without either one. A doctor does not need to have the same skills as a programmer in order to be a good doctor. Likewise, a programmer does not need to have the same skills as a doctor in order to be a good programmer. The doctor does need to have some basic knowledge about how to use an application the programmer creates for the doctor's use, but he does not need to understand the "guts" of the program - he just needs to use it. Likewise, the programmer would be smart to have a basic understanding of first aid, but he doesn't need to know how to do surgery - he just needs to know when and how to take an aspirin or put on a bandaid. You cannot reasonably compare the two and claim one to be better or worse than the other at all - the logic falls apart.
 
Similarly, comparing those who only eat peppers to those who grow is a senseless endeavor with no real logic or merit to it. Not everyone has the resources or space or skill to grow, and not all growers have the heat tolerance some who only eat have. You cannot reasonably make a comparison and call either greater or lesser at all - they are just different.
 
geeme said:
I also find the question disturbing. We are all different. Our differences do not make any of us better/worse or greater/lesser than another - differences are just differences, and we need our differences for us to work well. We cannot all be specialists in the same thing, else other needs are unmet. No, you didn't make me think about the differences, you made me think how sad it is that people try to one-up each other and build walls instead of appreciating that we each simply have different strengths and weaknesses and learning to use each other's strengths to better the whole. 
 
Doctors receive a lot of training, and have to have a certain level of understanding in order to do their jobs. Computer programmers also receive a lot of training, and have to have a certain level of understanding in order to do their jobs. But is one smarter than the other simply because their knowledge sets are different? No. We need doctors and we need computer programmers in today's world. We would not be better off without either one. A doctor does not need to have the same skills as a programmer in order to be a good doctor. Likewise, a programmer does not need to have the same skills as a doctor in order to be a good programmer. The doctor does need to have some basic knowledge about how to use an application the programmer creates for the doctor's use, but he does not need to understand the "guts" of the program - he just needs to use it. Likewise, the programmer would be smart to have a basic understanding of first aid, but he doesn't need to know how to do surgery - he just needs to know when and how to take an aspirin or put on a bandaid. You cannot reasonably compare the two and claim one to be better or worse than the other at all - the logic falls apart.
 
Similarly, comparing those who only eat peppers to those who grow is a senseless endeavor with no real logic or merit to it. Not everyone has the resources or space or skill to grow, and not all growers have the heat tolerance some who only eat have. You cannot reasonably make a comparison and call either greater or lesser at all - they are just different.
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The great Judge Smails once said "The world needs ditch diggers too."
 
If I didn`t grow them I`d be far less interested in the fruits. For me, the more strange the plant, the most interesting I find it.
 
Peppers are another in a long line of things to grow from seed - Banksias, Proteas, Leucodendrons, Aloes, Euphorbias, Cacti, many other succulents, weird fruit trees such as Surinam cherries and other Eugenia species, Longans, Cashews and many, many more. I also grew orchids for 15 years, but only species and only weird stuff - mainly cloud forest species, but also anything were the flowers mimic insects or have strange ways of getting insects to pollinate them. I have grown orchids from seed, which requires a fully equipped lab, but mainly by division. A friend of mine has what is probably the largest collection of species orchids in the world (well over 1 million plants). 
 
Point being, without the growing part, I would`t be all that interested in Peppers. 
 
I grow and I consume.
I consume because I love chili's and would find food much less palatable without them. I grow them because, when I want a nice pod, I want one now. and (now) does not mean selection and availability is in my favor if I was to rely on the local markets.
 
growing provides me the choice from simple Serrano's to galapagoense and everything in between.
 
 
one other thing that is great about growing. It provides me an opportunity to introduce and share with everyone I come into contact, the world of hot peppers. the kind of peppers they would otherwise never have seen.
 
Growers are superior beings because they love and understand far more. You see, the eaters have no love. They simply crave and consume. They crave and consume the greatness that is the grower's product, the product of love and understanding.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
Growers are superior beings because they love and understand far more. You see, the eaters have no love. They simply crave and consume. They crave and consume the greatness that is the grower's product, the product of love and understanding.
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But what if somebody grows without love and somebody that would love to grow and loves everything about peppers cant grow due to money constraints?
 
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