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PIC 1's............Pod-ography.............2013

  Good Eve-ning, and Welcome to my bog...glog !

Hey folks sorry for the late glog-up I'm a month behind last years startup,...... :rolleyes: ...... I still have 12+ weeks (plenty of time) before I can start think about hardening off the plants outdoors.

First off I'd like to give a shout out to those who followed my grow last season. Thanks for all the comments, thoughts and ideas. The chuckles we shared......there were some good laughs...(and especially all the criticisms........ :liar: .......hah)

To those who are new, I try to follow a "weekend update" format with photos and captions. Although if anyone has questions or replies that needs and answer or response I'll get back during the week. I hope to keep this interesting and entertaining...

and away we go!


Garden Rewind


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Here's my 1st garden (1986)...it was modest but what we grew we used in our kitchen. I had a couple of dual bulb 4ft T12 fixtures in my basement. A couple grow-lux and daylight color temp bulbs. The indoor grow was far superior to the vegetable starts sold at the local nurseries.
My Italian neighbor couldn't understand why his bell pepper starts only had flowers while mine had golfball size peppers very early in the season.....The hot varieties I grew back then were the cayennes, orange habaneros, and a few different type or thai-birds. Things have changed but I still grow those varities.

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Here's a shot from last season. I grew around 150+ pepper plants in two different sections of the garden. Plants were grown in raised beds and containers from 5 gal up to 20 gal

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A typical weekend harvest shot from later in the season when the gardens at full swing.

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This is one of my seed catalogs, the c.chinense....the seeds that invade our gardens every year...
This book and other seed catalogs are kept in a tupperware container container on a shelve in the corner of the basement.
No elaborate system needed, The seeds are kept in 1.5" zip backs. I have seeds that are as far back as 2007, and still germinating without a hitch....theres no need to pitch. Speaking of pitching theres some old baseball card to display the size of the pages used.

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These are what I use to get the seeds on their way. I take 1/4 bag of each, mix that into a 5 gal bucket and moisten with water. The spagnum peat give fluff to the texture also helps indicate when the mix need to be re-moistened but the lighter color it displays. The vermiclite helps with water retension while letting the air and moisture through. The seed starting mix also has fine grain perlite to keep drainage and airflow moving.

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Ha..........I knew this chop stick would come in handy someday. Once the seed medium is moistened I'll make a hole with the stick 1/4" down .
The seeds will be planted at the same depth. That helps when misting the top with water. Seeds that are planted too high may dry out or seeds planted to deep may rot.

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I use two 2ft x 4ft germinating mats. Enough area to warm 8 seed flats at once...

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I don't bother with a thermostat for the mats. I run them through a timer, 2 hrs on, 1 hr off...continous. The average temp of the soil stays at +/-85 deg

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This is the main grow room. I built the 2 tier shelving units 8ft long x 2ft wide. 8 flats fit underneath the lighting units. Here we have four narrow spaced T8 4 bulb fixtures with 6500k bulbs and one 8ft TF twin bulb tight spaced fixture with 4100k bulbs. I have 4 identical systems in the room with an addition of three 400w mh fixtures with 7200k lamps. The room has 2- 20a dedicated circuits and 1-15a to split the current draw..

more photos in a few minutes....thanks for looking!
PIC 1's......Pod Pornage.............2012

















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This is the first time I checked out this grow log. WOW, I had no idea you grew on such a large scale like this! More importantly, you just plain knock it out of the park growing plants!! Amazing job. I hope the payoff is good for all the work you do. You take a lot of pride in your growing. :)

Chris
 
Nice update! So do you have any furniture in your house? HA!

You sure do have a lot of plants...

Hey thanks for the BER response.

Scott

Sure there's some furniture............a few plant stands, water feature.....etc............hah
One of my growrooms in a spare bedroom. I've been using that since my eldest son moved out. Its decent sized 13 x 16;
My wifes been hinting on using that for an office for her files. That means I'll have to move the entire grow to the sub basement.
With a couple of additional 20a circuits run I'll be back in business......that's next year................maybe

Man, your grow continues to amaze. They all look so uniform in size and shape, almost like a military formation. Buds, flowers, and pods all coming along indoors. Wowsers!

And whatever you made with those ingredients must have been great. Hard to make an Ahi steak like that bad, unless it is overcooked. Seared is probably the best. Very nice.

Thanks........having a game plan before starting out is key. Having years of expierence helps out, now its just fine tuning each year.My plants aren't as large as last season at this point, but I have more which is fine.

Ahi, is one of my favorites..........Bluefin when I can find it. I also enjoy Ceviche with either Mahi or Corvina. Just can't get enough of it.
Thanks for the comments.

The CGN22207 I grew last season gave me pods that were different shaped then the pictures I saw online. It's nice you got seeds from 2 sources, that way you can also compare taste and heat. Thanks for the info about the Fish, I just need to be a little more patient :D Don't worry about the rant, it's very informative! Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us :)



If you need seeds just contact me, although mine had a different podshape. You gotta check out the CGN21566, if you like the CGN22207 I'm sure your gonna love the 21566! It's a beautiful plant with great looking pods.

Thanks Stefan,
I'm up to my petals with seeds.........ha
I will take a look at the CGN21566. ........I missed planting a few of my c.chinense due to having extra Bonnet plants this year.
Next season will be a different story.

This is the first time I checked out this grow log. WOW, I had no idea you grew on such a large scale like this! More importantly, you just plain knock it out of the park growing plants!! Amazing job. I hope the payoff is good for all the work you do. You take a lot of pride in your growing. :)

Chris

Thanks Chris,
That means alot hearing that from you. You're one of the premier pepper guru's here...

It's been a seasonal hobby for some time.for me I do sell some of what I grow, always have but for a profit, no. It does help to cut the losses.
I'm starting to see more folks in my area growing the "hot stuff". It was never like that in the past. So within the garden circles and clubs I'm able to meet people with the common desire.....growing and eating chili's.

Your weather is the same as mine, not at all like last year. Your plants are probably ready to go outdoors in a couple weeks, also.
I'm hoping the hard frost killed off the "white fly" larvae, as last year was pesty for most in the midwest.

I have one of your plants, seeds from a few years back. I'll have to take a photo of it when it matures......not sure the name of the purple (frutescens) plant. Black pods that ripen red......
 
Thanks Stefan,
I'm up to my petals with seeds.........ha
I will take a look at the CGN21566. ........I missed planting a few of my c.chinense due to having extra Bonnet plants this year.
Next season will be a different story.

I hear you, Greg :lol: same story here. Last season I managed to gather quite some brazil CGN varieties but I had to make cuts. They will be definitely grown out next season!
 
Amazing as usual Greg! I'm so far behind you, but I'm trying to just get them ready for plant out in May and let them take off in the soil, so we'll see. Anyway, great pics and wonderful plants - happy Easter to you as well!
 
Just a couple of photo's before the Holiday...

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Maui Purples are all starting to flower

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This ripe mini Thai will be a snack tomorrow............anybody have a toothpick

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Here's a Belize Bonnet, and FDA, TFM, and a Papa Joe's Mkt Bonnet

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Flowering "Fish"

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Purple Bhut

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variety of c.chinense ......screaming to get outdoors

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"MoA"

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and finally............a triple header...Jamaican Red Hab (#2) .I'm curious how this pod(s) will shape up

Thanks for looking see ya all next weekend.

Have a Happy Easter !

Amazing as usual Greg! I'm so far behind you, but I'm trying to just get them ready for plant out in May and let them take off in the soil, so we'll see. Anyway, great pics and wonderful plants - happy Easter to you as well!

Thanks Andy,
Your plants will catch up once they're outdoors and in the ground. I'm still planting annuums.
Happy Easter to you and your family

This is so not cool - I just p!$$ed myself with excitement and drooled all over my keyboard. Bad glog Greg, bad! lol Right on man!

Ha............Please don't damage the keyboard.........I won't be able to read your criticisms then........lol
 
Greg great pics I need to buy a better camera than my little Canon 12 meg handycam to post my photos to my glog. I have a question about the first photos you posted on page one. It looks like everything is planted on top of each other and from your bumper crops each year do I take it that I wont need to space my plants 3 feet apart in a straight grid pattern? I have about a 30x30 fenced space for the pepper area of the garden with 165 plants this is going to be pretty tight. Thanks for any input it is greatly appreciated. T.L.
 
Thanks guys and likewise with the Holiday wishes..

Greg great pics I need to buy a better camera than my little Canon 12 meg handycam to post my photos to my glog. I have a question about the first photos you posted on page one. It looks like everything is planted on top of each other and from your bumper crops each year do I take it that I wont need to space my plants 3 feet apart in a straight grid pattern? I have about a 30x30 fenced space for the pepper area of the garden with 165 plants this is going to be pretty tight. Thanks for any input it is greatly appreciated. T.L.
lol.........I'm probably using the same Canon camera.

You don't need to space the plants 3ft apart. Ofcourse the more room you give yourself to move about the easier it will be to harvest. My utility buckets are 18 gal and I have 15 and 20 gal nursery containers. Some plants are in beds...and others are getting planted in the ground elsewhere.

My plants are about 2ft apart (stem to stem). I leave myself enough room between isles or rows to harvest or trim. You do need air circulation.

I would plant in rows, staggered, unless you need to get inbetween each plant. The closer the plants the better it is for the mid season fruit. The plants not only support each other but shade the peppers from sunscald. Which can be a bigger problem with the thinner leaved larger inter spaced branched Annuums.

30 x 30 is a nice size for the garden. Although 165 plants sounds like alot, not all plants grow wide. Find which plants grow the tallest and plant them in the back row so they don't shade the smaller sized plants (depending which way the sun travels proportionally to the garden).

Good luck with the layout and the plantout.

Greg



PIC 1's......Pod Pornage.............2012
 
I really like that one of the Maui purple! I gonna have to get me one of those babies. So purdy!

That triple is cool. I had doubles on my OWs (just flowers, never did get a pod) that I tried to hand polinate. Maybe this summer that plant will throw some multiples. I love my multiples. <gin>. Yikes, that could be taken the wrong way. I meant that about my children.

Happy Easter!
Michelle

PS thanks for the pretty pics. It is reminding me that my DSLR needs to back again and get fixed for real this time.
 
Thanks guys and likewise with the Holiday wishes..


lol.........I'm probably using the same Canon camera.

You don't need to space the plants 3ft apart. Ofcourse the more room you give yourself to move about the easier it will be to harvest. My utility buckets are 18 gal and I have 15 and 20 gal nursery containers. Some plants are in beds...and others are getting planted in the ground elsewhere.

My plants are about 2ft apart (stem to stem). I leave myself enough room between isles or rows to harvest or trim. You do need air circulation.

I would plant in rows, staggered, unless you need to get inbetween each plant. The closer the plants the better it is for the mid season fruit. The plants not only support each other but shade the peppers from sunscald. Which can be a bigger problem with the thinner leaved larger inter spaced branched Annuums.

30 x 30 is a nice size for the garden. Although 165 plants sounds like alot, not all plants grow wide. Find which plants grow the tallest and plant them in the back row so they don't shade the smaller sized plants (depending which way the sun travels proportionally to the garden).

Good luck with the layout and the plantout.

Greg
Hi Greg. I was standing in the garden today and I have to say that being able to compare plants that were planted single and loads of space vs plants planted double and closely... the plants planted closely have much bigger yields. I was expecting the opposite, but it is clear as day and night to me. I think this is down to the fact that they support and almost create that micro climate for one another when they grow closely together. It is true however that trying to harvest plants that are so dense is a nightmare lol
 
Thanks for the info. I have a lot of work to do in the next few weeks to make a plantout diagram. Going to try the walmart bags as well on a few that I have multiple of.
 
Whew! I just finished going through the entire glog! Okay, I'll admit I didn't read every post. Mostly scanned looking for pictures, which did not disappoint.

So as I'm flipping through the pages a couple of thoughts occurred to me. What does this guy do for a living? First I'm thinking chef because of the incredible foodie shots, or maybe pepper farmer due to the large volume of pepper plants. Or maybe he's a professional photographer since he has mad camera skills! So I go to your member page out of curiosity, and was a little shocked to see "Electrical/Mech." Hmmmm ....

My next thought is "I wonder how high this guys electrical bill is every month."
 
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