STC3248, Just Another Grow Log! Holiday Harvest!

stc3248 · Mar 8, 2012

Getting a little sun today...

These guys had enough for now...soaking up some shade.

Top to bottom...Trinidad Scorpion, Fatalii, and Caribbean Red. the specks and leaf curl are from the recent aphid battle.

A little more aphid damage on my Purple Bhut...

If you look closely in the new growth you will see the little bastards...a couple near the stm in the upper most new leaf and a couple in the outer leaves as well.
Those poor little guys didn't make it once I nuked them today!

In spite of a few aphids, The plants are all doing really well. I now have pods on all my outdoor plants with the exception of the Pequins and they have open flowers so it wont be long. Pods include a couple dozen Jalapenos, several Mucho Nachos, a couple Poblanos, 1 Anaheim, a couple Bells and 1 Goat's Weed. I know I am forgetting some but oh well...

80 here today with a nice light breeze so they are soaking up some rays.
Thanks for looking,
Shane

Oh yeah...about a dozen Cayennes!

stc3248 · Mar 8, 2012

New grafting attempt...
I had a Fatalii that fried in the greenhouse some time ago that lost all its leaves, I thought it was a gonner, but it just started putting out new growth at the node. The scion is a Yellow Bhut that germinated a few days ago. I have 3 other Yellow Bhuts up and running so I thought what the hay!

Here they are with what is either the creators tool or the murder weapon???

The scion or victim...time will tell.

The Fatalii parent plant...this time I made the groove pretty deep.

You can see where I started to slice away material from the scion...I ended up cutting deeper than is shown (maybe too deep).

The two young lovers ready to be joined forever...or until one or both die.

Together at last...fingers crossed!

This one should tell me pretty quick if its gonna make it...I brutalized that poor little Yellow Bhut. The little fatalii though it will be stunted I thought would be the perfect host. Hopefully it continues its recovery and the new leaves finish forming. I moved them out of the direct light for the next few days. I may add a rubber band around the graft site to make sure its nice and tight.

Thanks for looking,
Shane

jsschrstrcks · Mar 8, 2012

They are just leaning on each other where you made the cuts? No tape, or anything else to hold it all together?

Ken

TheAmatureGreenThumb · Mar 8, 2012

Just think if you get good enough at grafting you could have a multi-Bhut plant. Choc, Yellow, Purple, Red, and White. That would be sick. Can't wait to see if your experiments work!

jsschrstrcks · Mar 8, 2012

Also I have that same Buck Knife!

stc3248 · Mar 8, 2012

jsschrstrcks said:
They are just leaning on each other where you made the cuts? No tape, or anything else to hold it all together?

Ken

I got tape (the blue that you can see in the last photo) a rubber band and a two wire twist ties holding it together...they ain't coming apart unless I want them too! If the little scion is still alive tomorrow, I think this one is money...no sign of wilting yet! I took almost half the stalk away from that little dude.

TheAmatureGreenThumb said:
Just think if you get good enough at grafting you could have a multi-Bhut plant. Choc, Yellow, Purple, Red, and White. That would be sick. Can't wait to see if your experiments work!

That's the plan! Got to get it down first! Although a plant containing fatalii and yellow bhuts will be pretty killer to! Both yellow and of a similar size and shape...I will really be able to mess with some folks on that one! If that plant does take, I think I will try white habs on it next???

jsschrstrcks said:
Also I have that same Buck Knife!

Yeah, I have a couple of those knives. I think the one pictured is a Border Patrol commemorative. Has a BP badge engraved into the brass on the other side...

Thanks for looking fellas,
Shane

romy6 · Mar 8, 2012

Everything is looking good Shane. I can't wait to see your plants on a few months. They should be 6 fee tall and full of buds!

stc3248 · Mar 8, 2012

Final list...I still have the ungerminated seeds on the heat mat, but don't expect any more.
Manzano 4 (2 more that had shown taps are out in the garden, we'll see if they sprout.)

Fish 2/2

Wild Brazil (Cumari) 2/2
Tepin 2/2
Aji Omnicolor 2/2
Yellow Scotch Bonnet 2/2
Goccia d'Oro 2/2
Red Lantern Habanero 2/2
Brain Strain 1/2

Billy Boy Douglah 2/2
Peruvian White Bullet Hab 4
Kaval F-1 0/2
7 Pot Primo 2/2
7 Pot Monster Infinity 1/2
Devil's Tongue Brown 2/2
Bhut Jolokia Orange 0/2
Black Naga 2/2

Bhut Jolokia Purple 4/4
Bhut Jolokia White 4/4

Bhut Jolokia Red 4/4
Bhut Jolokia Yellow 4/4
Bhut Jolokia Chocolate 4/4

7 Pot Red 4/4
7 Pot Lg Yellow 4/4
Fatali 4/4
Chocolate Hab 4/4
Bishops Crown 4/4
Pequine 4/4
Trinidad Scorpion 3/4

Established Plants:
Caribbean Red x5
Black Cobra (Goat's Weed) x6
Jalapeno x8
Mucho Nacho Jalapeno x8
Cayenne x6
Bell x4
Poblano x3
Anaheim x1 (lost 2 I tried to rip out of topsy turvy's from last year)

jsschrstrcks · Mar 8, 2012

Nice list - do I see a few hybrids on there? Billy Boy Douglah sounds like biker billy Jalapeno x 7pot douglah!

7pot monster infinity sounds like it could be a hybrid as well.

Also if you graft all those bhuts together, you might well get some interesting gene material flowing through the plants... You might try grafting them all together all at the same spot (even if you do just one at a time.

stc3248 · Mar 8, 2012

jsschrstrcks said:
Nice list - do I see a few hybrids on there? Billy Boy Douglah sounds like biker billy Jalapeno x 7pot douglah!

7pot monster infinity sounds like it could be a hybrid as well.

Also if you graft all those bhuts together, you might well get some interesting gene material flowing through the plants... You might try grafting them all together all at the same spot (even if you do just one at a time.

Billy boy is a strain of Douglah...not a hybrid.
Don't know the history of Monster Infinities vs Infinities??? Maybe someone could chime in with that one. Maybe it was just isolated for larger pods???
I have a few others that very well may be hybrids my Scotch Bonnets are at the top of the suspect list. They're growing too much like an annuum. I thought my Tepins might be as well, but I found some images online that look similar to mine, so I think they may be pure. Most of my seeds were OP so there is no telling what type of bhut/7pot/fatalii or whatever else crosses I might have. Will be fun to see what shows up come pod time in the Chinenses!

As far as the multi graft goes...I gotta learn to walk before I run, and crawl before I walk. If this one gets going it will be kind of scary cutting the stem off the scion! I know I could just leave both sets of roots attached, but I wouldn't consider that a successful graft no matter how well they were stuck together. Once I am convinced they are joined I will cut the little guy loose. I may then decide to try some more grafts to the same plant. We shall see. Got a whole lot of what ifs to worry about before we get there.

I put my paper lantern/Jalapeno graft under the lights for a while this morning and the scion started to shrivel a bit so I moved them back out of the light. I may have messed that one up...Hope it makes it!

romy6 said:
Everything is looking good Shane. I can't wait to see your plants on a few months. They should be 6 fee tall and full of buds!

I sure hope so! I really can't wait for the chinenses to start producing...There will be tons of satisfaction once the first pod sets! I am about to have a ton of ripe Jals, Mucho Nachos and Cayennes that's for sure!

I am not keeping all the plants, sorted them all today and took inventory. My original list was pretty accurate. So my record keeping has been better than I expected.

The two soil test Manzano's almost doubled in size since I took that pic yesterday, Their first set of true leaves wasn't even finished opening in the pic, they are now open with second set pushing through. Crazy fast growers! I think the one in my mix might be taking a slight lead! Long race though.

Thanks for the confidence boosters fellas!
Shane

stc3248 · Mar 9, 2012

The little graft attempt is looking healthy this morning, so far so good! That's a really good sign of potential success with only half its stem thickness remaining its pulling what it needs from somewhere. I have it on the shelf below my grow station getting very slight indirect light. The Red Lantern Hab/Jalapeno graft is looking better. The scion had wilted pretty bad after I gave it some light but it bounced back and is looking healthy again and starting to push out some new leaves. I am going to set up their own little grow area and give them a single CFL to begin with. I am potting everything up this weekend, and my Jalapeno overwinters are going in the ground!!!

jsschrstrcks · Mar 9, 2012

Just be careful about giving it too much light too soon.

As you say it causes wilting fast, and if the graft site drys out, it causes death within a day or two.

stc3248 · Mar 9, 2012

If they start to die...I'm going to set them on fire in front of the next two volunteers so they understand the consequences of failure! The next volunteer is a peruvian white hab...just sprouted and now I have 4 of them. I think that will be a nice addition to the frankenpepper plant. Fatalii/yellow bhut and Peruvian Whites. Once it gets going (notice the cofidence in that statement) I may germ a purple bhut or red brain strain to add to the "family tree."

stc3248 · Mar 9, 2012

Who can tell me about Tepin #2? That is what the Tepin seeds I planted were labeled...any info would be greatly appreciated!

From what I can tell, its going to be really bushy...anyone know how tall it might get first season or what size container it might need? I don't want to put it in a 5 gallon container if I can help it. I am trying to save those for the big supers. I am wondering if a hanging basket would be a good place for it???

Shane

PaulG · Mar 9, 2012

Hey, Shane! Your plants out in the sunlight look great! We have another sunny day here, so it's above 70 in the greenhouse. Still too cold at night to put pepps there. I get vicarious thrills from looking at your beautiful plants! Glad to hear the new graft is perky. You will be a great contributor to the grafting/cloning thread at the end of the season! It's been great following your progress in S.D. Those tepin #2's are the cat's a meow! Dude! Just from glancing at your germ table, I'd say you are close to, or over 90% w/o doing any calculation. Ya did good!

stc3248 · Mar 9, 2012

PaulG said:
Hey, Shane! Your plants out in the sunlight look great! We have another sunny day here, so it's above 70 in the greenhouse. Still too cold at night to put pepps there. I get vicarious thrills from looking at your beautiful plants! Glad to hear the new graft is perky. You will be a great contributor to the grafting/cloning thread at the end of the season! It's been great following your progress in S.D. Those tepin #2's are the cat's a meow! Dude! Just from glancing at your germ table, I'd say you are close to, or over 90% w/o doing any calculation. Ya did good!

Well the seeds did good anyway! lol...yeah one batch must have been old or something...other than that one I was at almost 100% I'll take what I got, which is way too many anyway...I'm giving some of my babies away this weekend. I think I might have postpartum depression.

PaulG · Mar 9, 2012

There's always valium :high:

jsschrstrcks · Mar 10, 2012

BTW!!! Secondary growth on the host now as well as flowers... Going to pick them off I think... But still!! Exciting stuff.

I am taking the new leaves on my scion, coupled with the new growth on the host to be a good sign... going to start letting the roots of the scion dry a bit... going to put the peat pod in a piece of tupperware for a few days... first sign of wilting, I'll re-plant it.

This is after ONLY 6 days as well.

For the grafts that involved cutting the cotyledons off, and grafting it onto the host, the benchmark was a week... if it made it a week, I knew it was a success. Only one lasted that long, and then was mauled.

So we'll see. Thinking about putting it in the garage as well... letting it get more light. Sitting where it does on my desk, it gets cfl light from 8 feet or so, and a sliver of light that makes it past my blinds in the late afternoon and evening (even that is filtered by trees).

In the garage, in the south facing window, I'll get more like 6 + hours of direct sun... More depending on where I put it.

PaulG · Mar 10, 2012

Looks like we may have a graft?!
Good work, Shane, great fun watching
this.

stc3248 · Mar 10, 2012

PaulG said:
Looks like we may have a graft?!
Good work, Shane, great fun watching
this.

Too early to call either one...Looks like the scion might not make it on my first attempt and the hose may not make it on my second attempt. The good news is there is some new growth on both scions. The little fatalii host I used in graft #2 isn't looking as promising as it once was. (note to self don't intentionally stress an overstressed plant). I am hoping that on that graft maybe the host can start pulling a little from the scion since it still has a rood system, coty's and first leaves forming. Might actually work in my favor both plants needing to pull from each other. The host still has a large healthy root system, but no leaves???

On to bigger and better things! PLANT OUT BABY! Finally rolled those dice! Sorry for the crappy pics...was busy and didn't take my time on the pics. Once I get everything done I will take some good ones tomorrow.

Here are some of the annuum's. Anaheim, Mucho Nacho Jals, Jalapenos, and Cayennes.

These guys got some 5 gallon shoes...Scorpion, Fatalii, Bishops Crown, some 7's and Bhuts of different colors, and 1 foot.

These guys are going to a new home today...couple Mucho Nachos, Purple Bhut, Bishops Crown, a couple Goat's Weeds, Cayennes and a Pequin. Kinda like sending your kids off to college...sad yet satisfying.

A mess! lol Still not done here. A few more annuums. Poblanos and Jalapenos.

Here are some of the supers in the ground! I may have overdone it on the holes, about 2 ft deep each. Filled each with compost/potting soil. Wanted to make sure the roots had room to roam! There are a few hiding behind that tree that I really want to remove...I hope it dies.

Pequin

Goat's Weed.

Purple Bhut and a Bishops Crown.

I still have tons of room, and tons more to plant. 30 went in the ground and 8 into 5 gallon containers. I finished the soaker/drip system for now. I may add another station for the containers later. I got a ton more to do, just paused for a beer and to upload. I'll catch up on everyone's stuff later.

Shane