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StettoGro '19: In For a Dime

76....In English that would be ALMOST TWICE AS DAMNED MANY AS LAST YEAR.
 
Ah well, Last year I dwelled on downsizing, this year I must have assumed it would be automatic.
 
I argued with myself over whether to glog at all this year, other than to carry over noobishness from the last two seasons I don't have that much to offer...But everyone loves to see a Zone 3 die-hard gardener scratch and claw his way through a short season!!
 
Anyhow, this is how my week started---I was particularly proud of my innovative use of the pill caddy.... :idea:
 
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That was the first "load", almost all black seeds. The next day the yellow seeds went in while the black ones found their nests. The sad thing is the seeds I didn't put in; the Paprika and the Urfa Biber and the Aji Limo and the and the and the...Until that damned greenhouse gets itself magically erected I gotta limit myself.
 
OK, at least one of each Pubescen is going into fivers or larger containers. So will the best of the Pimenta De Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques and my Sri Lanka Chilli Red competitor and what long season peppers I can. What goes into the 8th acre this year will be treated to a till-less grow, it's at least worth a try. Most of the anuums will be out there.
 
For what it's worth, here is the current state of my grow....
 
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Pubescens:
CaneDog
Big Apple Red Rocoto--3
Mini Brown Rocoto--3
De Seda Yellow/Orange Rocoto--3
Costa Rica Red Rocoto--3
XL Brown Rocoto--3
Gelbe Riesen Yellow Rocoto--3
Gelbe Riesen Var--3
Arequipa Giant Red Rocoto--3
 
Greenchilemonster
Giant Yellow Rocoto--3
Turbo Pube--3
Ecuador Red Rocoto---3
Aji Largo Rocoto--3
Large Red Rocoto--1
 
Chinense:
Greenchilemonster
Aji Arnaucho--2
Papa Dreadie SB--3
 
PaulG
Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques Violet F6--3
Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques White F6--3
 
Anuum:
Pepper Guru
Sri Lanka Chilli Red Growdown --2
Sri Lanka Chilli Red Off-Pheno (?)--1
 
Devv
Jimmy Nardello--3
 
Moruga Welder
Aleppo--3
Antake--2
Antep Aci Dolma--3
 
Tradewinds Fruit
Big Jim--6
Sante Fe Grande--2
 
Costco (yup, seeds from store peppers)
Red Bell (for the Darlin' Bride and her stir-fry)--6
 
I still have the OWs, Aji Amarillo, Aji Mango, Turbo Pube, Large Red Rocoto, Rocoto Rojo (2), Peruvian Red Rocoto (2) Ecuador Red Rocoto, Large Orange Thai, Aji Oro, Rocoto Arequipena, but I didn't want to brag.
 
Let the love-hate begin! I'm gonna start it with a Voodoo Ranger....
 
 
 
 
 
 
PaulG said:
Wow, all that snow reminded me of Southern
Oregon back in the 60's, snow like that piled
up everywhere. Doesn't do that anymore. You
guys get all the fun!
Weather and seasons are cyclic. I remember huge snows when I was a kid, I remember winters when it hardly ever dipped below zero. This year we get both.

It can be really pretty when you aren't shovelling the stuff...

This morning out back--hoar frost doesn't get any heavier!

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A week two update, a few pics won't kill anyone, right?
 
New sprouts in bleu...

Pubescens:
CaneDog
Big Apple Red Rocoto--3 XXX
Mini Brown Rocoto--3 X
De Seda Yellow/Orange Rocoto--3 XX
Costa Rica Red Rocoto--3 XXX
XL Brown Rocoto--3
Gelbe Riesen Yellow Rocoto--3 XX
Gelbe Riesen Var--3 XX
Arequipa Giant Red Rocoto--3 XXX
 
Guatemalan Insanity Pepper
Ecuadoran Sweet Rocoto--2
Pineapple Rocoto--2
 
PaulG
Peruvian Red Rocoto--2
 
Greenchilemonster
Giant Yellow Rocoto--3 XX
Turbo Pube--3 XX
Ecuador Red Rocoto---3 XXX
Aji Largo Rocoto--3 XXX
Large Red Rocoto--1 X
 
Chinense:
Greenchilemonster
Aji Arnaucho--2 XX
Papa Dreadie SB--3 X
 
PaulG
Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques Violet F6--3 X
Pimenta de Neyde x Bonda Ma Jacques White F6--3
 
Anuum:
Pepper Guru
Sri Lanka Chilli Red Growdown --2 XX
Sri Lanka Chilli Red Off-Pheno (?)--1
 
Devv
Jimmy Nardello--3
 
Moruga Welder
Aleppo--3
Antake--2 XX
Antep Aci Dolma--3 XXX
 
Tradewinds Fruit
Big Jim--6
Sante Fe Grande--2 XX
 
Costco (yup, seeds from store peppers)
Red Bell (for the Darlin' Bride and her stir-fry)--6 XXXXXX
 
 
This early in the game it's all so innocent, unassuming, isn't it....By mid-July I will hardly recognize these guys...
 
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I'm always in awe of the differences...That PdeNXMaJacque is just precious, ain't it? Of course the Papa D speaks for itself, and I'm kinda hoping that one of my Sri Lanka Chillis is a hybrid, but I'll certainly love it no matter how normal it winds up...
 
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I do have a few other varieties that haven't popped, like the Jimmy Nardellos and the Allepos, but these Big Jims really disappoint. I went ahead and found some seed from the original vender pack and replanted, we'll see how many of those sprout. I replanted the Nardellos and Allepos as well.
 
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And the Rocotos, what a season for Rocotos, eh? The only original planting that hasn't popped at all are the XL Brown. I did replant with the few I had left, let's cross our fingers, shall we?
 
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So far, so far. We have what the alarmists are calling a "bomb cyclone" going on outside, which from my front door looks exactly like a strong windy day. These weather people really need to think about consequences when ginning up panic....My pepper plants don't know a thing, and I'm going to keep it that way.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
stettoman said:
...then it dawns on me: It's only been 16 days.

I should know better, shame, shame, shame...
 
Seems like things are going reasonably well for you and if the season were longer there'd be plenty of time to wait, but that's just not the case for most of us.  My last round of rocotos is a few days behind yours, but I'm going to deal with the stragglers now myself. The XL Brown is among only a few that haven't sprouted yet (I planted 4 seeds 11 days ago) and I'm dropping the last few remaining seeds I have now - just put them down to soak this AM.  Most of my rocotos pop between days 8 and 12 and everything that's from my own seeds is up already.  Maybe the XL Brown just takes longer, but I'd rather have to cull a few if I have too many than end up way late with them.  Just one plant and I should have all the seed I'll need again this fall. No point in hanging onto the last few at this point!
 
Glad to see the Antake and AA Dolma are up. Hope that Aleppo gets with it as well.
 
Guatemalan Insanity Pepper said:
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i failed at removing a helmet head on Peru Bitdumi   :mope:
 
 
 
but, i noticed an extra sprout in that cell this morning and no helmet  :dance:
  

I've found a few helmets too, and though I have in the past done what I could to save them, my germ rate is outrageous this season, so I'm letting them go or just snipping them out. I did lose a Pimenta de Neyde X Ma Jacques to helmethead though, and only this morning caught site of that coveted replacement hook. I'm golden!

CaneDog said:
Seems like things are going reasonably well for you and if the season were longer there'd be plenty of time to wait, but that's just not the case for most of us.  My last round of rocotos is a few days behind yours, but I'm going to deal with the stragglers now myself. The XL Brown is among only a few that haven't sprouted yet (I planted 4 seeds 11 days ago) and I'm dropping the last few remaining seeds I have now - just put them down to soak this AM.  Most of my rocotos pop between days 8 and 12 and everything that's from my own seeds is up already.  Maybe the XL Brown just takes longer, but I'd rather have to cull a few if I have too many than end up way late with them.  Just one plant and I should have all the seed I'll need again this fall. No point in hanging onto the last few at this point!
 
Glad to see the Antake and AA Dolma are up. Hope that Aleppo gets with it as well.
You keep me abreast of your XL Brown, I really wanted at least one to pop! I do have a Mini Brown, that's cool!

The Aleppos I got last year I dried for powder, but the Moruga Welder noted on the seed pouch he sent that they're stupendous filled w/cream cheese and wrapped in bacon. I have a desire for that this year....
 
Devv said:
Looking good Eric!
 
My Nardello's were slow to pop this year, really slow. So in my infinite wisdom, I thought I needed to plant more...well they all finally did pop and now I have like 40 :shh: :shocked:
Boy, they're sure taking their sweet time here, Scott! But I had another Papa Dreadie and two PaulG Peruvians pop overnight, so I'll just wait these Anuums out, patience or no....
 
My Antep Aci Dolmas have MANGE!!!
 
They're all looking like this, cotys browning up and getting a tad wrinkly...
 
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The lighting sucks, and the resolution ain't great, I know.
 
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At least what true leaves are coming look to be healthier. But this affects every Aci Dolma, and out of almost 80 sprouts, ONLY the Aci Dolmas. My suspicion is a seed-borne disease, but not (so far) contagious...
 
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It's disheartening, but they did germinate 100%, and I have a few of the original seeds that Frank sent me last season, in case these do fail. But. As long as the true leaves look good, they will be treated just like the normal children....
 
Can't be BLS this early in the game, can it? a Turkish-specific BLS?
 
...Oh well, kiddies, stay tuned!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
stettoman said:
I have 100% germ on those Peruvian Rocotos you mailed.
If hell meant only being able to grow one
pepper, it would be the Red Rocoto.
 
But wait a minute. It would be too hot
for Pubes   :onfire:  
 
That really would be hell   :twisted: 

I think the Chinese got it wrong: it's not the Year of the Pig, it's the Year of the PUBE!!
That made me laugh, Eric  :rofl:
 
stettoman said:
My Antep Aci Dolmas have MANGE!!!   Eeeeewwww  :sick: 
 
They're all looking like this, cotys browning up and getting a tad wrinkly...
 
At least what true leaves are coming look to be healthier. But this affects every Aci Dolma, and out of almost 80 sprouts, ONLY the Aci Dolmas. My suspicion is a seed-borne disease, but not (so far) contagious...
 
It's disheartening, but they did germinate 100%, and I have a few of the original seeds that Frank sent me last season, in case these do fail. But. As long as the true leaves look good, they will be treated just like the normal children....
Can't be BLS this early in the game, can it? a Turkish-specific BLS?
 
 
I would separate those from the rest of
the seedlings if you can, Eric. It's not
worth taking a chance on infecting the
rest of your crop.  If it really is no big
deal, they will still be okay. If it is a problem
for real, then the other plants will be safe.
 
I doubt BLS, but its is certainly possible.
 
If the true leaves are healthy, then I
wouldn't do anything drastic at this
point other than isolate them..
 
I hate this kind of @^!@#$$*
 
stettoman said:
My Antep Aci Dolmas have MANGE!!!
 
They're all looking like this, cotys browning up and getting a tad wrinkly...
 
It's disheartening, but they did germinate 100%, and I have a few of the original seeds that Frank sent me last season, in case these do fail. But. As long as the true leaves look good, they will be treated just like the normal children....
 
Can't be BLS this early in the game, can it? a Turkish-specific BLS?
 
Hey Stetto,  The AA Dolma you shared with me have popped 4/5 so far at currently 4-1/2 days since planting.  The one that popped yesterday is open already and looks great - see below.  No sign of mange or any issues.   FYI - I did do an H2O2 soak on everything before planting which could effect pathogens, but I only treated at 0.75% for oxygenation purposes, not at the higher concentration I'd use if I were specifically trying to kill germs.
 
By the way, from what you shared with me the Ecuador Roc's went 8/8, Dreadies 6/6, and Turbo's Pube's 7/8, all from earlier plantings.  The rest are at the 4-1/2 day mark, with Atake at 3/3 already and I'm waiting on Big JIm's and Aleppo to show hooks.
 
Just super impressed with how well your seeds have performed.  Much appreciated!
 
EDIT: So I guess what I'm saying is maybe and hopefully it's not bacterial, but perhaps just some funky and temporary environmental response...?
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PaulG said:
That made me laugh, Eric  :rofl:
 
 
I would separate those from the rest of
the seedlings if you can, Eric. It's not
worth taking a chance on infecting the
rest of your crop.  If it really is no big
deal, they will still be okay. If it is a problem
for real, then the other plants will be safe.
 
I doubt BLS, but its is certainly possible.
 
If the true leaves are healthy, then I
wouldn't do anything drastic at this
point other than isolate them..
 
I hate this kind of @^!@#$$*
 
Yeah, I dunno, Paul. The true leaves are fine as they emerge. Still pretty small though. The cotys, well, obviously another story. I did separate them from the others, still have that luxury at this stage.
 
I'm having trouble with the P'de N X Ma J white pheno seeds, they remain dormant after a replant over a week ago. I have a violet F7 that is the cutest little purple thing! I'm going to make sure I planted all that you sent (nursery is in a bit of chaos this time of grow) before I ask if you have more...
 
CaneDog said:
 
Hey Stetto,  The AA Dolma you shared with me have popped 4/5 so far at currently 4-1/2 days since planting.  The one that popped yesterday is open already and looks great - see below.  No sign of mange or any issues.   FYI - I did do an H2O2 soak on everything before planting which could effect pathogens, but I only treated at 0.75% for oxygenation purposes, not at the higher concentration I'd use if I were specifically trying to kill germs.
 
By the way, from what you shared with me the Ecuador Roc's went 8/8, Dreadies 6/6, and Turbo's Pube's 7/8, all from earlier plantings.  The rest are at the 4-1/2 day mark, with Atake at 3/3 already and I'm waiting on Big JIm's and Aleppo to show hooks.
 
Just super impressed with how well your seeds have performed.  Much appreciated!
 
EDIT: So I guess what I'm saying is maybe and hopefully it's not bacterial, but perhaps just some funky and temporary environmental response...?
20190318_AADolma.jpg

 
 
'Dog! I'm having the same luck with everything but the Big Jims and Aleppos (and my Jimmy Nardellos, which I don't think I sent you). This was my first planting with heirloom seed from a harvest, and it was fantastic! BTW, the PDreadie seed I sent you was from either a pouch of seed from Greenchilemonster or seed I harvested from an SFRB of perfect pods I received from Windchicken hizzeff. Mine germinated well, at about 75%, but the little darlins are so waifish coming out of the ground that I fear for their survival...I've never had the best of luck growing the PDreadie brand.
 
I'm still waiting on an XL Brown to surface, and I planted all you sent. I did get one Mini Brown to hatch, so I'm giddy about it...
 
I soaked in chamomile, and gave all my seed a good heat mat assisted bath for 36 +/- hours before going to coir and Root Riot pod. I almost used peroxide until my Darlin' Bride found my tea stash. This is the highest % germ I've had the pleasure of, Big Jim/Jimmy Nardello/Aleppo/Pimenta de Neyde X Ma Jacque/XL Brown aside...
 
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