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The Philster Splatocaster Rebuild

The Hot Pepper said:
Really? So you've never "felt" music or heard stuff in it that isn't actually there? You need some good records man. 

 
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Come on THP, I have been playing stringed musical instruments since I was 14 and I hear every instrument in songs note for note many times but that's not what I am looking for.
 
 
Nothing wrong with that! Take my wine example. If a wine has chocolate notes, and there is no chocolate in it, but people taste it, so it is perceived, then what is wrong with that? A computer could spit out a stat and call you crazy. Enjoy the wine. Enjoy the music. Let your ears tell you what you like. Not a computer.
 
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Once again it is not about enjoying the music as I do that already. I am looking for truth, that's it. This is a scientific argument not a subjective hearing argument.
 
 
Maybe a stat doesn't lie but it will also tell you frequencies you can't even hear on a record. I say open your ears and enjoy. Some people like their tone and swear by it.
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I am not looking for frequencies in the range outside the human ear, I am looking for the ones we do hear and whether they are true or not. This is about tone not sounds below or above our hearing spectrum.
I want to know if the wood really does make a difference or not objectively? That's all!
Phil said:
I was going to follow the video post with a comment saying....... I simply can't hear a difference. Hat tip to you, PMD. If the difference is so minute that it takes a machine to pick it up, then is it really that much of a difference? I posted the video as a way of saying you may have a point.

 
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I agree Phil. I heard very little discernible difference. I guarantee you if you played the same guitar and called it both Guitar A and Guitar B people would still hear a difference. :lol:
 
You're always going to have die-hard tone believers and those who don't believe at all. It's just another one of those never ending arguments with proof on both sides.
 
At this point, I'm not gonna swallow either argument whole. I strongly feel that materials make a difference... because they do in every other facet of manufacturing, right? But given this audio test, I couldn't hear much difference. Talk is cheap and people are.... people. After hearing this, I've decided my ears aren't trained well enough to tell a difference.
 
Phil said:
At this point, I'm not gonna swallow either argument whole. I strongly feel that materials make a difference... because they do in every other facet of manufacturing, right? But given this audio test, I couldn't hear much difference. Talk is cheap and people are.... people. After hearing this, I've decided my ears aren't trained well enough to tell a difference.
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I am on the fence as well but am leaning more to the wood doesn't matter argument as I don't think guitar strings sitting on a nut at the tuners and a metal bridge (floating on a FR) produce enough vibration transferred to the wood to cause any effect on sound. I guess we will wait until someone will do real tests. I wish we could get Brian May of Queen to do it with his knowledge. The smartest guitarist alive as I call him. :)
 
Phil said:
LSD  was great for that..... years ago! I swear, the best albums I ever heard were Hendrix and Pink Floyd's "The Wall" movie while hopped up on trippies. I swear, you could see the music coming from the speakers! Those days are long gone for me, though.
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Without LSD!!!!! Sometimes you'll swear you hear a keyboard or a voice that's the "magic of the studio" where you get all kinds of cool shit, even shit that doesn't exist, like....................
 
 
 
 
wood tone.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
lol.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
 
Without LSD!!!!! Sometimes you'll swear you hear a keyboard or a voice that's the "magic of the studio" where you get all kinds of cool shit, even shit that doesn't exist, like....................
 
 
 
 
wood tone.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
lol.
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Hahahaha!!!
 
Yeah, that's what I love about my new studio headphones. I'm hearing stuff I've never heard before. Especially old recordings like Zep's "Whole Lotta Love"
 
Yep. Started wet sanding Friday. Will be buffing soon!
 
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Weather here hasn't been very cooperative. Finally got a sunny day yesterday and today. And I had family over yesterday for a visit, so the one good weekend I had, I couldn't put much work into it. But it's coming along. I need to go get an orbital buffer to help with polishing. I'll be ordering the pups next week. Then I can start putting it all together.
 
Back of the neck isn't painted. Left it natural. Started polishing and putting it together today. Ordered the pups Friday... Fender custom shop Texas Specials for the neck and middle, Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates trembucker for the bridge.
 
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Had to drill new holes for the bridge posts and tuning machines. Still need to go do a little Dremel work on the electronics cavity so the pots will fit, and the pot shaft holes need to be enlarged a bit. Sucks having to do this stuff after it's painted.... I had to order a new nut because the one that came with the Rose is top mount, and the neck is already set up for bottom mount, so I found a bottom mount nut on ePray. It's just resting in its spot in the pic.
 
I am eager to see the finished results.  Is this something you do as a hobby and/or do you like it enough to do more of them?  
 
It's a new hobby I'm trying to pick up. I just needed something to do that I could immerse myself in. So far, I'm enjoying it enough to want to try more. This is going to be the first one I ever started and finished.
 
Phil said:
It's a new hobby I'm trying to pick up. I just needed something to do that I could immerse myself in. So far, I'm enjoying it enough to want to try more. This is going to be the first one I ever started and finished.
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Phil, looks great so far. Make sure to check the intonation. You're D string looks like it could be pulled back a bit. Once you do it, you'll truly appreciate how much of a pain in the ass it is to set intonation on a FR. Last time I did it, it took well over 1/2 hour.
 
New name for you: "Phil the Luthier"
 
 
We are expecting you to bust out a video playing some classic Maiden tunes when you're done. :party:
 
Thanks, Jeff & Smoke... Yeah, I thought that bridge looked way off. It's how it came out of the box. I will be setting the intonation. The high E looks like it might be way off, too. One thing I learned.... Floyd Roses are bitch to manage without string tension on them. Classic Maiden, huh? lol... I can do a couple of bars of Number of the Beast and the Trooper!

Did I mention that I HATE the little black string stop blocks vs. the old string through the saddle screws??
 
Edit.... LOL! the luthier???? Hardly!!! But learning!
 
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