Trippa's 2013-2014 ...its weird and wonderful ... for now..

Sawyer · Jul 22, 2013

Sounds reasonable.

PaulG · Jul 23, 2013

+1 Sawyer.

WalkGood · Jul 23, 2013

Trippa said:
To tell the truth I think a lot of times people also tend to harvest the pods a little early (as they would simply for eating a pod) and I always find for the best germination if you want to save seeds you should always let them go over ripe on the plant and then harvest for seeds ...

Very interesting theory which I tend to agree as Sawyer & Paul mentioned above, heck premature picked pods like the white Bhuts that came off my plant early due to the limb losses yielded beautiful seeds but while drying they turned black so I tossed them for being premature. The seeds off the fully ripe pods look great now and I'm starting to collect them as I will grow mas.

So when will the Trippa seed testing begin? Make sure you record all empirical data and time delayed grow videos

hahaha. I hope you know I'm kidding ...

Looking forward to some seed pic loving mon!

Trippa · Jul 23, 2013

WalkGood said:
Very interesting theory which I tend to agree as Sawyer & Paul mentioned above, heck premature picked pods like the white Bhuts that came off my plant early due to the limb losses yielded beautiful seeds but while drying they turned black so I tossed them for being premature. The seeds off the fully ripe pods look great now and I'm starting to collect them as I will grow mas.

So when will the Trippa seed testing begin? Make sure you record all empirical data and time delayed grow videos hahaha. I hope you know I'm kidding ...

Looking forward to some seed pic loving mon!

Haha I am methodical/OCD and sure I would do it ... if they somehow gave us 48hrs for use each day

...to tell the truth a lot of the time with observations I often simply go off gut feeling which isn't very scientific but growing up on a farm where my Dad knew most every nuance of the season and animal, and plant around him simply through experience and feel ... he was precise with measurements etc when building, or mechanics but when it came to nature and animals he just has some gut feel that he uses ... I guess its called experience and old age

Maybe one day I will get to that point with chillis/gardening ... I certainly hope so ... I tend to over analyse most everything in life and it would be nice to be able to step back from that and simply go with something ... it would do my whole being some good I think!!

Cheers for stopping in Ramon.

Seeds they may be coming on pot up ... not much to see at the moment .. they are getting there ... but nothing explosive yet. I just got my Myco's delivered today so the bigger plants will be being potted up to the first stage pots this weekend, will take some gratuitous seedling shots then!

In others experiences do they put the myco directly in the soil mix or water it in?? Instructions say to water it in (but they are mainly aimed at hydro growers) I got 200grams and you only use 0.5gms per litre of water at full size and at seedling stage 0.3g per litre... so for soil ??

romy6 · Jul 23, 2013

I usually mix it in my soil prior to replanting. I fill half the container full of soil . Then the top half I mix in the mykos. Usually about a tablespoon or more depending on size of the pot. . You can add more .It will only help . Replant then water in. For smaller seedling I just sprinkle around the roots and water in. Adding a little soil on top so it can do it's thang.

Does that make sense Trista it does to me

Trippa · Jul 23, 2013

romy6 said:
I usually mix it in my soil prior to replanting. I fill half the container full of soil . Then the top half I mix in the mykos. Usually about a tablespoon or more depending on size of the pot. . You can add more .It will only help . Replant then water in. For smaller seedling I just sprinkle around the roots and water in. Adding a little soil on top so it can do it's thang.

Does that make sense Trista it does to me

Sure does cheers Romy!!

stickman · Jul 23, 2013

Trippa said:
To tell the truth I think a lot of times people also tend to harvest the pods a little early (as they would simply for eating a pod) and I always find for the best germination if you want to save seeds you should always let them go over ripe on the plant and then harvest for seeds ...not saying this was the case with you but I do think with certain varieties where it may be difficult to tell the actual ripeness of a pod especially it is actually a quite common occurrence. I Know Brown varieties, and white varieties in particular I have seen many people say how much trouble they have with germination and I believe 80% of those issues are probably due to this phenomenon (in my opinion)

+1 on that! I'm going to make sure that I only pick the first few pods after they have obviously ripened, and started getting soft. I'll only be getting about a dozen ripe pods this summer anyway, and I want to ensure a seed supply for the future.

Trippa · Jul 24, 2013

Yeah Rick ... Best err on the side of caution I think when harvesting for seed ... No harm in a slightly over ripe pod except for little loss of heat in some cases.
One of my originally planted Nebru's popped up yesterday !!! Super excited about that .. I can't to get those bad girls growing and podding. So only waiting now on Primo x bhut jolokia yellow f2 of my must grow original starts ... And the others I put down in the second starts will all be bonus material now for gifting ? We shall see

I certainly have too many plants for my original plans which I have to stick to for production sake.

Devv · Jul 24, 2013

Just catching up, very interesting discussion on the seed harvesting!

Glad your babies are a poppin'!

Trippa · Jul 24, 2013

Devv said:
Just catching up, very interesting discussion on the seed harvesting!

Glad your babies are a poppin'!

Cheers Devv!!
Yeah my germination rate is getting right up there now which I am pretty happy about. But due to my impatience I wasted a few seeds in the process but I figure I can harvest that many seeds again from one pod so no big deal.
(By wasted I should say have spare plants of for gifting

)

Devv · Jul 25, 2013

Reading about your new season is making want to sow prematurely, especially with my late start this year. I must wait...I must wait...

Can't wait to see what's next!

Trippa · Jul 25, 2013

Cheers Devv ....

My little babies are enjoying the warm sunshine (about 24C and in the dead of winter

.. winter meh

) in a sheltered area and have just had little soaking of Seaweed and a spot (literally) of Organic 5 in 1 Searles liquid fertiliser just to give them a few nutrients until I pot them up (they are still only in jiffy's and can't run on a sterile mix so I just give them a little taster to ease them into some new boots proposed for Sunday) ... after there pro-biotics and seaweed a few days ago there are some nice fuzzy white roots coming along so they are almost ready for the pot up.

The F1's of my own cross are looking quite exciting ..... will be interesting to see how they continue to grow and once they start podding what form they take

Will try to get a couple of snaps of them today

Trippa · Jul 26, 2013

Just noticed that one of the new Hot Fish Pepper sprouts isn't like any of the other ones I have grown this season or previously .... its cotyledons are already variegated and its only a couple of days above ground (hasn't even been upright for more then a day) ... I think I will be keeping that one somehow. ... I know I know ... photos or it didn't happen ... coming soon ....

Sawyer · Jul 26, 2013

That Fish definitely sounds like a keeper.

Stefan_W · Jul 26, 2013

Trippa said:
To tell the truth I think a lot of times people also tend to harvest the pods a little early (as they would simply for eating a pod) and I always find for the best germination if you want to save seeds you should always let them go over ripe on the plant and then harvest for seeds ...not saying this was the case with you but I do think with certain varieties where it may be difficult to tell the actual ripeness of a pod especially it is actually a quite common occurrence. I Know Brown varieties, and white varieties in particular I have seen many people say how much trouble they have with germination and I believe 80% of those issues are probably due to this phenomenon (in my opinion)

Just getting caught up here. This is a great discussion on seeds and seed collecting.

I almost always let peppers fully ripen on the plant before harvesting, the exception being sampling peppers or times when I just get impatient and pick a couple to munch on. I've heard people say they pick pods early so the plant keeps producing and doesn't close down. Living in a short season climate that sort of thing is irrelevant to me, so I never bothered testing to see if the theory is true.

I think you are right about seeds germinating better if they ripen or over ripen on the plant. As I see it, we do our best to copy what happens in nature. In nature pods will be eaten by birds or other critters once they are very ripe, and the seeds are spread by those critters. It makes sense to me that the seeds are perfect for germination right at that point, because the ones that are right at that time would have been the ones that have been selected by nature over the course of thousands of years. So what you are saying makes a lot of sense to me.

Trippa · Jul 26, 2013

Sawyer said:
That Fish definitely sounds like a keeper.

Yeah I hope so ... will post some gratuitous (some might say boring) sprout shots in a minute

Stefan_W said:
Just getting caught up here. This is a great discussion on seeds and seed collecting.

I almost always let peppers fully ripen on the plant before harvesting, the exception being sampling peppers or times when I just get impatient and pick a couple to munch on. I've heard people say they pick pods early so the plant keeps producing and doesn't close down. Living in a short season climate that sort of thing is irrelevant to me, so I never bothered testing to see if the theory is true.

I think you are right about seeds germinating better if they ripen or over ripen on the plant. As I see it, we do our best to copy what happens in nature. In nature pods will be eaten by birds or other critters once they are very ripe, and the seeds are spread by those critters. It makes sense to me that the seeds are perfect for germination right at that point, because the ones that are right at that time would have been the ones that have been selected by nature over the course of thousands of years. So what you are saying makes a lot of sense to me.

Kind of obvious in some ways but in others many people pick pods just before they fully ripen on a plant and so it isn't so obvious ... if that makes sense??

Anyway Cheers for stopping in Stefan ... I like your comparison with nature ... Indeed the crows around here wait for any Red chillis to be bang on ripe before swooping in for the chomp ... bastards ... has led me to pick a lot of chillis lately still slightly underdone .... I think because its cooler here at the moment there isn't so much food around on plants and the chillis stand out like dogs bollocks

Trippas+Mystery+Cross+top+view+closeup.JPG

These are the ????? x ????? F1's or as shane said the WTF's

shaping up nicely so far liking them a lot

Hold on for a little repetition of this cross and the hot fish with the variegated cotyledons ... I don't have too much to take photos of this season yet ... apologies in advance ... also still haven't got a macro lens and thought it may have been a birthday present but apparently not ...

WalkGood · Jul 26, 2013

Trip I was only jesting about empirical data and time delayed grow videos, hehe, I prefer your dads method of gut feeling but in my case I search the net and ask you guys when in doubt.

Devv said:
Reading about your new season is making want to sow prematurely, especially with my late start this year. I must wait...I must wait ... ...

Premature sowing hahahaha you made me spit my coffee mon, this sounds like a youth issue to me

... funny I find myself resisting to start new plants every day.

Edit: I was busy typing while you posted the pics and did not see till after posting. Great pics \o/

Trippa · Jul 26, 2013

Some more of those damn crosses

WalkGood said:
Trip I was only jesting about empirical data and time delayed grow videos, hehe, I prefer your dads method of gut feeling but in my case I search the net and ask you guys when in doubt.

Premature sowing hahahaha you made me spit my coffee mon, this sounds like a youth issue to me ... funny I find myself resisting to start new plants every day.

I know you were jesting .... but sometimes I wish I had the time and patience ....

Seriously I do

Right enough pictures of the cross .. onto the cool variegation on the cotyledons of the Hot Fish Pepper

Found it quite hard to pick up on the camera but it is more obvious in person ... take a look and tell me I am not going mad :rofl:

... they are much different at this stage then the others in the jiffy that's for certain

Hot+Fish+variegation+in+cotyledons+2.JPG

Hot+Fish+variegation+in+cotyledons+3.JPG

And a few random shots to round out my musings

jalapeno's looking happy and 2 of my White Fatalii from GNSLNGR

Butch T x Douglah F3 from GNSLNGR and the Hairy little Orange Rocoto's from PaulG

Thats the lot for now ... have more random shots but I always do ....but with all this Pod Porn flooding in from the North its hard to hold an audience with baby sprouts

so that will do for plant shots for another couple of weeks I think unless I see some freaks about

meatfreak · Jul 26, 2013

Looks like the germination is going very well for you, Trippa. Keep it up!

Devv · Jul 26, 2013

The babies are looking real healthy!