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Wild, Indeed, Community Thread

Just getting this started so I can get a url.
I will post more about this in a couple of days.
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Happy New Year, 2021!
 
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Earlier in the year I took pollen from this flower which was on the variegated section that appeared on one of my C.flexuosum plants. There were also some flowers with white pedicels, I took pollen from those too.

This most highly variegated section of the branch died off as the temperatures increased outdoors and was too small to sensibly clone.

Anyway, back to the pollen. I used several pollen batches to cross into some other C.flexuosum plants. I then collected and labelled all of those harvested berries.

I started a selection of those recently to get some F1s underway. Multiple as I don’t know which pollen sample, if any, might pull the variegation trait through. I also won’t find out until F2, so it’s a long wait. First of the F1s appeared after 18 days.

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New development on this search for C.flexuosum variegation. I have lots of these F1 seedings up now based on different pollen samples from the highly variegated section of my plant before it died off.

Today, after moving various plants, I was able to get round the back of the original plant and have a good look at the branches. Tracing back from where the variegation had broken out I found this and took it as a cutting before the cold weather gets it 😀

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Worth a shot and will be an easier starting point than a big C.flexuosum F2 growout I’d think. I managed to get two small sections plus I took the biggest node further back towards the origin.

Now to see if they take in a heated propagator indoors.
 
C.rabenii x C.tovarii, ripe F1 berry and F2 seeds. I have more berries now starting to turn colour gradually.

In a major annoyance, one isolation bag was lost to a storm earlier in the year and all I have in my remaining isolation bag is aphids! 😡

The plant is still flowering but I doubt it will set more in these temperatures and light levels. I have LOTS of berries on the plant so I’d be very unlucky if they are all cross-pollinated and the plant was self-incompatible. I have multiple backup plants indoors which I’ve kept small and not flowering. I probably worry about such things too much but 🤷‍♂️

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I dropped a compilation of photos from my F1 grow of C.rabenii x C.tovarii into a single video. I had zero luck finding reference images for this hybrid when I was researching it originally. Hopefully someone might find them useful in the future, I've posted many of them in this thread and my crossing thread in the past year. I'm not a click-bait YouTuber so no need to watch, like, subscribe :lol: Logging it here so people can find it via the site search.

 
Plants looks cool. The plant around 1:00 has tovarii branching and pubescence of rabenii and leaves of it also. Then the two plants after looked almost identical to a standard tovarii. You do really nice work and documentation.

I really have no interest in hybrids but tried a few over the years. Tried tovarii with a baccatum and also flexuosum a few times with no luck. Rhomboidium x lance I had success crossing but the seeds did not germinate. 3 or so years ago I was successful with eshbaughii and pubescens I think a couple people got the seeds but I had no interest in the project.


Again,absolute class work there mate.
 
Pr0digal_son said:
I really have no interest in hybrids but tried a few over the years. Tried tovarii with a baccatum and also flexuosum a few times with no luck. Rhomboidium x lance I had success crossing but the seeds did not germinate. 3 or so years ago I was successful with eshbaughii and pubescens I think a couple people got the seeds but I had no interest in the project.
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For wilds I only really do crossing to try and understand compatibility and see what types of traits are dominant. I don’t have any grand plans for them and people confuse species enough without lots of random wild hybrids circulating.

Funny you should mention Rhomboideum and Lanceolatum. I noticed in the big compatibility study from a couple of years ago they excluded Lanceolatum entirely, along with Pubescens.

Based on that gap I made some C.lanceolatum x C.rhomboideum attempts this year to see how it went. Some seed batches did nothing but I had germination on one batch. I have 4 of these potential F1 seedlings running, too soon to know if they are valid yet or an accidental self.
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ChilliCrosser said:
For wilds I only really do crossing to try and understand compatibility and see what types of traits are dominant. I don’t have any grand plans for them and people confuse species enough without lots of random wild hybrids circulating.

Funny you should mention Rhomboideum and Lanceolatum. I noticed in the big compatibility study from a couple of years ago they excluded Lanceolatum entirely, along with Pubescens.

Based on that gap I made some C.lanceolatum x C.rhomboideum attempts this year to see how it went. Some seed batches did nothing but I had germination on one batch. I have 4 of these potential F1 seedlings running, too soon to know if they are valid yet or an accidental self.
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I hope you have success. I have photos somewhere of my attempt. In the end I let the seeds go for 30 days and then tossed them as it was spring and everything was going outside.

C.rhom and C.lance overlap in situ.It's amazing that rhomboideum stretches from Mexico to Southern Peru. C.lanceolatum and C.geminifolium along with a few others seem like they should be very compatible by visual inspection.

A lot of random wild hybrids circulating that people don't even know are. And then the dregs of society claiming wild hybrids that are certainly not.It's not even worth sharing your work because someone will benefit financially from it. Or more deceit will ensure.
 
Hi everyone,
Was inspired to sign-up after reading all 64 pages of this awesome thread. I used to grow a fair few wild / bird types when I was growing seriously 8 or so years ago - hot peppers all through the conservatory the toddlers play in ain’t great so things went by the wayside but I’m starting to get back into things. Anyway whilst reshuffling some stuff in the house I found this pepper grinder my folks got me back in those days full of my own dried tepid and pequins. Spent last night harvesting a lot of seed. It’s 8+ years old but I have lots - do we think I have any shot at germination at all? Any tips for triggering ancient seed? Thanks all and looking forwards to joining in next year.
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Drunken Bee said:
Hi everyone,
Was inspired to sign-up after reading all 64 pages of this awesome thread. I used to grow a fair few wild / bird types when I was growing seriously 8 or so years ago - hot peppers all through the conservatory the toddlers play in ain’t great so things went by the wayside but I’m starting to get back into things. Anyway whilst reshuffling some stuff in the house I found this pepper grinder my folks got me back in those days full of my own dried tepid and pequins. Spent last night harvesting a lot of seed. It’s 8+ years old but I have lots - do we think I have any shot at germination at all? Any tips for triggering ancient seed? Thanks all and looking forwards to joining in next year.
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Given your mild climate, you certainly stand a chance to get something germinating.
 
Go for it! Sow a bunch so you have a chance
of getting some plants. Welcome back to the
pepper growing community!
 
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PaulG said:
Go for it! Sow a bunch so you have a chance
of getting some plants. Welcome back to the
pepper growing community!
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Thanks - I figure I have nothing to lose! I’ve had a couple of plants growing for a while but nothing much on the wild front. I did grow this Cumari pollux a year or so back but to my surprise it didn’t overwinter
 

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Good luck with the flexuosum. I had good germination,
but they took so long to ripen I didn’t get many berries.
 
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