ikeepfish said:
I'm a classical liberal, I support the right to carry and the right to marry
And less government (that includes taxes). I don't know what you would call what's happening in CA but it isn't exactly liberal. Disarming people violates the very principles of the liberalism that this country was founded upon.
I don't think you can actually get pistol grips for shotguns in Virginia, and we have some of the loosest gun laws in the country. Open carry here is legal without any kind of permit as long as it isn't in a bar or place of worship. You also can't buy shurikens (throwing stars) for some bizarre reason.
Ikeepfish, I think you are missing the fact that it still has a butstock. Pistol grips are legal on shotguns in VA as long as the gun isn't too short.
The applicable VA statutes are:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-299
§ 18.2-299. Definitions.
When used in this article:
"Sawed-off shotgun" means any weapon, loaded or unloaded, originally designed as a shoulder weapon, utilizing a self-contained cartridge from which a number of ball shot pellets or projectiles may be fired simultaneously from a smooth or rifled bore by a single function of the firing device and which has a barrel length of less than 18 inches for smooth bore weapons and 16 inches for rifled weapons. Weapons of less than .225 caliber shall not be included.
"Sawed-off rifle" means a rifle of any caliber, loaded or unloaded, which expels a projectile by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is designed as a shoulder weapon with a barrel or barrels length of less than 16 inches or which has been modified to an overall length of less than 26 inches.
"Crime of violence" applies to and includes any of the following crimes or an attempt to commit any of the same, namely, murder, manslaughter, kidnapping, rape, mayhem, assault with intent to maim, disable, disfigure or kill, robbery, burglary, housebreaking, breaking and entering and larceny.
"Person" applies to and includes firm, partnership, association or corporation.
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-300
§ 18.2-300. Possession or use of "sawed-off" shotgun or rifle.
A. Possession or use of a "sawed-off" shotgun or "sawed-off" rifle in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of a crime of violence is a Class 2 felony.
B. Possession or use of a "sawed-off" shotgun or "sawed-off" rifle for any other purpose, except as permitted by this article and official use by those persons permitted possession by § 18.2-303, is a Class 4 felony.
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.7
§ 18.2-308.7. Possession or transportation of certain firearms by persons under the age of 18; penalty.
It shall be unlawful for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly and intentionally possess or transport a handgun or assault firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. For the purposes of this section, "handgun" means any pistol or revolver or other firearm originally designed, made and intended to fire single or multiple projectiles by means of an explosion of a combustible material from one or more barrels when held in one hand and "assault firearm" means any (i) semi-automatic centerfire rifle or pistol which expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (ii) shotgun with a magazine which will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered. A violation of this section shall be a Class 1 misdemeanor.
This section shall not apply to:
1. Any person (i) while in his home or on his property; (ii) while in the home or on the property of his parent, grandparent, or legal guardian; or (iii) while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, and with the prior permission of his parent or legal guardian if the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property;
2. Any person who, while accompanied by an adult, is at, or going to and from, a lawful shooting range or firearms educational class, provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported;
3. Any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or going to and from a hunting area or preserve, provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported; and
4. Any person while carrying out his duties in the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard of this Commonwealth or any other state.
The above citation isn't my research. I swiped it from THR.
Also a stupid legal comment about your shurieken (sp) story: The wife and I came back from the camper the other day with a couple of dull kitchen knives. I put them on the dashboard while we drove home. My wife tried to grab them and put them in her purse because she didn't want anyone seeing them out on the dash. I had to stop her asking if she really wanted to commit a felony for carrying a concealed deadly weapon......Ohio has no statute dealing with concealed knives larger than pocket knives.
Funny thing is that the whole time, I had a loaded .40 right next to me. Perfectly legal. But the knives needed to be out.
