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If you need pods Denniz just let me know and I'll send a box out to you brother. It sucks to put all that time,and love in growing them and then you get hit with this.
Damn. That sucks big time
Lots of good advise.
I have a few plant with what i think is a leaf fungus. They are struggling to grow, but nothing like what you are experiencing.
Keep that head up! New plants look good!
Let me know if i can do anything.
Lots of good advise.
I have a few plant with what i think is a leaf fungus. They are struggling to grow, but nothing like what you are experiencing.
Keep that head up! New plants look good!
Let me know if i can do anything.
Happens to everyone. ALl you can do it start over and do better than the grow before! I learn more every year i garden.
thats what i suspected.. and seems like theres no win with any kind of mites...Boguspokus said:
thanks.. but know that even the cloned BBG even if they make it are contaminated..gnslngr said:
MITES or any pest sucks!! thats why we call them pests!!megahot said:
live to grow another day...DesertChris said:Dang! I am very sad to hear this
thanks walter... im doing what i can to ressurect the plantsVegas_Chili said:
THEY SUCKS arse!Boguspokus said:
already started.. i have 3 flats i got through PEPPERPRoBLEMS plants.. will keep those inside... seeds will be sowed.. and will hope to have some pods in november i guess ill look at it as a late startTrippa said:
calling it a season outside.. inside will continue...armac said:
I APPRECIATE everyones kind words... know i am not here to make a sad story of myself and get pods... ive put a lot of time.. blood.. sweat.. and money... and i wanted to be guys like ROMY and do giveaways and just give without asking for anything back... just bums me out and i wanted to share this will ya'll. if i can....i will grow and continue to attempt giveaways in november when everyones run out of peppers.. HAhHAHHAHHA...
so ... yesterday to brighten up my day .. i got some fruit plants ive been missing out on in the Philippines... SUGAR APPLE or we call ATIS... and STAR FRUIT.. hoping they dont get affected by broad mites... in a couple years hope to have fruits from these guys
millworkman
eXtreme
Wait it out bro. Dont toss anything just yet. Put them out in a corner and let nature take her course.
Waiting WAITINGGGGGGGSali said:Dont give up KD! hang in there..the yellow primo seeds are coming your way..and some others that you gotta try
Dont give up KD! hang in there..the yellow primo seeds are coming your way..and some others that you gotta try
ill let ya know... over 200 plants and only a couple small harvest.. kinda sucks.. but its what i can live withstandbyandfire said:
thanks....if needed will give u a PMGA Growhead said:
i saw spots of top of my Siling Labuyo...look at the undersides of leaves.. SPIDERMITES!!! ya... cant kill those guys... and no one local has supply of predatory mitesromy6 said:Peppers are tough D. I would not give up so fast. I have brought back many plants from almost near death. If it is mites give em a chance. I have some stuff that will kill dem basturds
Send me a pm I will hit you up with a cheap supplier if you would like.
got plenty of seeds.. its mature plants that i dont have..Scarecrw said:
Mike...already beganjedisushi06 said:
thats the problem.. i shouldve tossed the bad ones already.. but instead i kept the suspects far away... but i wasnt deligent on looking at all of them... some barely infected were next to healthy plants..and well. ya know what happened aftermillworkman said:
thanks buddy...buddy said:
just waiting for a couple more seeds.... and will sow them...i think i did tooo many varieties as well...hahah will limit to a dew.. MoA being top priority
If it is broad mites, according to NC State Ag they are very temperature sensitive. They suggest dunking the plant upside down in water heated to 45-47°C and leaving them there for 15 minutes. They claim it won`t hurt the plants, but will kill the mites.
Here is a company that specialises in biological pest control, including 4 or 5 types of predatory mites. The species Neoseiulus californicus is native to California, so may be a good option for you.
http://www.buglogical.com/product-index/
Here is a company that specialises in biological pest control, including 4 or 5 types of predatory mites. The species Neoseiulus californicus is native to California, so may be a good option for you.
http://www.buglogical.com/product-index/
I tried predator mites.
I put enough for 1/4 or 1/8th acre on my 200 pots.
They can't keep up with the broad mites once they are established.
Seems the predators are also heat and humidity sensitive,more so than other mites.
I hear you can't use them in a greenhouse in the summer( heard that from commercial growers here in Ca.).
Seems the same critters that like spider and broad mites like the predators better.
Lacewing Larva seemed to be the best for about ANY nasty that comes in my garden.
I found wasps,Nematodes and lacewings are the best thing to use.
I tried EVERYTHING known to man poison wise(from natural to systemics) on mites.
Heck,birds would fall out of the sky if they flew over my garden the poisons fumes were so bad. LOL
Lacewings and a fungal with 12%+ of sulfur work to keep my garden somewhat cool.
I haven't seen an aphid in a few years thanks to the wasps and I see a lot of Syrphid flies around too(look like mini bees but aren't striped the same).They have a line connecting the stripes of black.
The flie eats pollon but the larva eats ANY soft bodied critter on the plant.
I see the larva cruising around my plants from time to time.
They make a cacoon that looks like a mini butterfly cacoon.
I just need to find a bio cure for crickets and grasshoppers.
The only stuff I found comes in large bags and has a VERY short shelf life.Expensive too.
I need a critter that likes them.
My place is cricket heaven...
They love chewing the outside green bark off my plants and pod stems.
IF they find a small enough start they chop it down like a beaver drops a tree.
Fixed the Japanese beatle larva with nematodes and a mix of BT and Mosquito dunks.
I've only seen a couple moon craters in my pots this year where the grub came out or the adult dug in to lay eggs.
At one time I'd see a plant fall over all of a sudden with no roots left from the grubs.
Not lately.
A LOT of the good bugs find other places to go when your plants run out of stuff for them to eat BUT they come back when there are more things to eat.
I work nights,I have a semi controlled population of broad mites.
I see TONS of lacewing eggs all over the place and lots of adults flying around too.
I don't think the mites have a chance this year.
Screw poison.
Use sulfur and release the hounds. LOL
I think I did more damage every time I used even natural poisons than if I let my good guys do their thing.
Once the good guys get established they stay in the area,wether you see them or not.They follow the food and are VERY good at their job.
One mistake I did was introduce Mantis in my garden.
THEY EAT EVERYTHING AND ARE TERRITORIAL.
They ate my other good guys.
They don't eat mites when a fat juicey lacewing larva is there too.
Every time I saw a Mantis I brought it to plants far away from my garden for 2 seasons before I only had a couple here and there.
One mantis eats a lot less than a dozen lacewing larva,wasps or syrphid flies.
I'm sure lacewing larva eat a lot of syrphid fly larva but not like mantis do.
I think mantis go after anything in their territory that eats THEIR food.
They end up eating good guys and are too full to eat the nasty guys.
I think protecting their territory is more important to them than eating mite,aphids or whatever.If you have a lot of bigger bugs that are benificial,why eat other stuff that is smaller.
PS.
Ladybug larva can't come close to lacewing larva for chowing down on anything in the garden.They are snacks for Lacewing larva.
Lacewing larva are eating machines.
If they can catch it they eat it.
I've seen ladybug larva sitting around belching and farting with a full stomache with aphids walking on them.
A lacewing larva would find room for 1 more or just kill it for being stupid enough to come even close to it.
They are also called ant lions.They dig funnel shaped pits around ant trails and nests.Ants check in but don't check out.
Google it if you don't believe me.
Only thing is that adult lacewing have to eat pollen to lay eggs.
But I have a lemmon hedge that takes care of that if my peppers aren't budding and McD next door has tons of flowers.
As a side note,I released a whole container of predator mites indoors but they couldn't keep up with the spider mites.
I actually thaught about breeding the spiders for a flea circus to at least get something out of raising the bastards.
Then I thaught about breeding them for size as a crap substitute.
Indoors clearing out my shelves solved the problem.
Outside sulfur and lacewings got rid of the spider mites pretty fast but broad mites are still around.
Sulfur and my good guys keep them on only 1 or 2 plants BUT I spray everything with Safer Garden fungacide concentrate.
12% sulfur
16oz. bottle was $12,+
Makes about 8gal. of spray.
A quart of the same stuff ready to use was a buck more.
Bayer makes the same stuff(3 in 1) but they didn't have it in a concentrate.
Another company makes another 3in1 that is neem,sulfur and soap but the nursery changes stuff all the time and didn't have whatever it was I bought before.
I spent an hour looking today.
I guess I should have written down the nome etc before I tossed out the container.They would have ordered it for me.A bag of peppers or smoked manzano powder goes a long way there.
Guy is going to find me some wetable sulfur.
Gave him a small zip worth of Safi red and surinam habs,a few Kalia mirch and a few Chile Pajarito,Rammelette and chiquito peppers.Added a taste of smoked Manzano powder.
The guy didn't know how to act.
They like this aging,bearded,long haired Chile Freak over there sometimes. LOL
Hell,I bank there...
I put enough for 1/4 or 1/8th acre on my 200 pots.
They can't keep up with the broad mites once they are established.
Seems the predators are also heat and humidity sensitive,more so than other mites.
I hear you can't use them in a greenhouse in the summer( heard that from commercial growers here in Ca.).
Seems the same critters that like spider and broad mites like the predators better.
Lacewing Larva seemed to be the best for about ANY nasty that comes in my garden.
I found wasps,Nematodes and lacewings are the best thing to use.
I tried EVERYTHING known to man poison wise(from natural to systemics) on mites.
Heck,birds would fall out of the sky if they flew over my garden the poisons fumes were so bad. LOL
Lacewings and a fungal with 12%+ of sulfur work to keep my garden somewhat cool.
I haven't seen an aphid in a few years thanks to the wasps and I see a lot of Syrphid flies around too(look like mini bees but aren't striped the same).They have a line connecting the stripes of black.
The flie eats pollon but the larva eats ANY soft bodied critter on the plant.
I see the larva cruising around my plants from time to time.
They make a cacoon that looks like a mini butterfly cacoon.
I just need to find a bio cure for crickets and grasshoppers.
The only stuff I found comes in large bags and has a VERY short shelf life.Expensive too.
I need a critter that likes them.
My place is cricket heaven...
They love chewing the outside green bark off my plants and pod stems.
IF they find a small enough start they chop it down like a beaver drops a tree.
Fixed the Japanese beatle larva with nematodes and a mix of BT and Mosquito dunks.
I've only seen a couple moon craters in my pots this year where the grub came out or the adult dug in to lay eggs.
At one time I'd see a plant fall over all of a sudden with no roots left from the grubs.
Not lately.
A LOT of the good bugs find other places to go when your plants run out of stuff for them to eat BUT they come back when there are more things to eat.
I work nights,I have a semi controlled population of broad mites.
I see TONS of lacewing eggs all over the place and lots of adults flying around too.
I don't think the mites have a chance this year.
Screw poison.
Use sulfur and release the hounds. LOL
I think I did more damage every time I used even natural poisons than if I let my good guys do their thing.
Once the good guys get established they stay in the area,wether you see them or not.They follow the food and are VERY good at their job.
One mistake I did was introduce Mantis in my garden.
THEY EAT EVERYTHING AND ARE TERRITORIAL.
They ate my other good guys.
They don't eat mites when a fat juicey lacewing larva is there too.
Every time I saw a Mantis I brought it to plants far away from my garden for 2 seasons before I only had a couple here and there.
One mantis eats a lot less than a dozen lacewing larva,wasps or syrphid flies.
I'm sure lacewing larva eat a lot of syrphid fly larva but not like mantis do.
I think mantis go after anything in their territory that eats THEIR food.
They end up eating good guys and are too full to eat the nasty guys.
I think protecting their territory is more important to them than eating mite,aphids or whatever.If you have a lot of bigger bugs that are benificial,why eat other stuff that is smaller.
PS.
Ladybug larva can't come close to lacewing larva for chowing down on anything in the garden.They are snacks for Lacewing larva.
Lacewing larva are eating machines.
If they can catch it they eat it.
I've seen ladybug larva sitting around belching and farting with a full stomache with aphids walking on them.
A lacewing larva would find room for 1 more or just kill it for being stupid enough to come even close to it.
They are also called ant lions.They dig funnel shaped pits around ant trails and nests.Ants check in but don't check out.
Google it if you don't believe me.
Only thing is that adult lacewing have to eat pollen to lay eggs.
But I have a lemmon hedge that takes care of that if my peppers aren't budding and McD next door has tons of flowers.
As a side note,I released a whole container of predator mites indoors but they couldn't keep up with the spider mites.
I actually thaught about breeding the spiders for a flea circus to at least get something out of raising the bastards.
Then I thaught about breeding them for size as a crap substitute.
Indoors clearing out my shelves solved the problem.
Outside sulfur and lacewings got rid of the spider mites pretty fast but broad mites are still around.
Sulfur and my good guys keep them on only 1 or 2 plants BUT I spray everything with Safer Garden fungacide concentrate.
12% sulfur
16oz. bottle was $12,+
Makes about 8gal. of spray.
A quart of the same stuff ready to use was a buck more.
Bayer makes the same stuff(3 in 1) but they didn't have it in a concentrate.
Another company makes another 3in1 that is neem,sulfur and soap but the nursery changes stuff all the time and didn't have whatever it was I bought before.
I spent an hour looking today.
I guess I should have written down the nome etc before I tossed out the container.They would have ordered it for me.A bag of peppers or smoked manzano powder goes a long way there.
Guy is going to find me some wetable sulfur.
Gave him a small zip worth of Safi red and surinam habs,a few Kalia mirch and a few Chile Pajarito,Rammelette and chiquito peppers.Added a taste of smoked Manzano powder.
The guy didn't know how to act.
They like this aging,bearded,long haired Chile Freak over there sometimes. LOL
Hell,I bank there...
I know I have posted this 2 times already but I believe with broadmite and mites in general being such an issue its well worth a read and its an experiment directly on Pepper/Chilli/Capsicum plants.
(If you don't feel like reading go straight to the table where it shows the efficiency of different products in stat form and keep in mind that Azadirachtin is the active in neem products )
http://www.pvamu.edu/Include/TEXGED/Journal/Biology%20and%20control%20of%20the%20broad%20mite%20Polyphagotarsonemus%20latus%20(Banks,%201904)%20(Acari%20Tarsonemidae).pdf
I know it certainly opened my eyes , so basically if you want to stay organic and spray for quicker results then natural predators you use Sulphur (My personal choice) and if you couldn't care less about organics you go with Abamectin.
Interesting thing is if you went with Sulphur and sprayed again around the 11th Day you would have almost identical efficiency then the Non organic product
(If you don't feel like reading go straight to the table where it shows the efficiency of different products in stat form and keep in mind that Azadirachtin is the active in neem products )
http://www.pvamu.edu/Include/TEXGED/Journal/Biology%20and%20control%20of%20the%20broad%20mite%20Polyphagotarsonemus%20latus%20(Banks,%201904)%20(Acari%20Tarsonemidae).pdf
I know it certainly opened my eyes , so basically if you want to stay organic and spray for quicker results then natural predators you use Sulphur (My personal choice) and if you couldn't care less about organics you go with Abamectin.
Interesting thing is if you went with Sulphur and sprayed again around the 11th Day you would have almost identical efficiency then the Non organic product
I have seen people breed lizards in greenhouses to control hoppers and crickets.
The link is similar but more in depth than one I posted not long ago about mite control in another post...
As I said,mites are too adaptable, for EVERYTHING I tried in 4 seasons of trying to get control,let alone getting rid of them completely.
They either hibernate and or get immune.
I don't remember the recent post.
My best results were as I posted above,a combination of sulfur and good guys(sulfur,so far doesn't seem to mess with lacewing larva OR I lucked out and I have too many adults laying eggs every night so what gets killed is replenished.
Once you even see mite damage you are already screwed.
Your post is xlnt.
I'll let ladybugs,predator mites etc in my kitchen but lizards taste funny when they fall into my Chile.
Outside there are a lot of Aligator Lizards but they are out in the day,Crickets rule the night.
Grasshoppers aren't near as bad as the crickets so far.
Grasshoppers I find on the ground at night on the asphalt trying to keep warm.At night they have a bad case of the slows.
Heidi loves stomping them.
She can't catch Crickets,they jump in all directions,grasshoppers can only jump straight forward.
Crickets don't care about warm.
They eat cloth,plastic,you name it.
My front door has an inch air space all around.I get crickets in my hallway at night.
I use a Bio thing that they walk over that messes with their genes or something.
Doesn't kill them but you see a lot of the next generation deformed and sterile.
There is a similar stuff for roackes.
Thing is it doesn't kill them.Takes seasons to get all the crickets to walk on the stuff you spread out...
The stuff doesn't even make a dent.
It just makes me feel good every time I see a wierd looking cricket.1n out of a gazillion...
I've been here 18 yrs.Got rid of the giant roaches but crickets are forever.
Not as bad as mites though.
As I said,mites are too adaptable, for EVERYTHING I tried in 4 seasons of trying to get control,let alone getting rid of them completely.
They either hibernate and or get immune.
I don't remember the recent post.
My best results were as I posted above,a combination of sulfur and good guys(sulfur,so far doesn't seem to mess with lacewing larva OR I lucked out and I have too many adults laying eggs every night so what gets killed is replenished.
Once you even see mite damage you are already screwed.
Your post is xlnt.
I'll let ladybugs,predator mites etc in my kitchen but lizards taste funny when they fall into my Chile.
Outside there are a lot of Aligator Lizards but they are out in the day,Crickets rule the night.
Grasshoppers aren't near as bad as the crickets so far.
Grasshoppers I find on the ground at night on the asphalt trying to keep warm.At night they have a bad case of the slows.
Heidi loves stomping them.
She can't catch Crickets,they jump in all directions,grasshoppers can only jump straight forward.
Crickets don't care about warm.
They eat cloth,plastic,you name it.
My front door has an inch air space all around.I get crickets in my hallway at night.
I use a Bio thing that they walk over that messes with their genes or something.
Doesn't kill them but you see a lot of the next generation deformed and sterile.
There is a similar stuff for roackes.
Thing is it doesn't kill them.Takes seasons to get all the crickets to walk on the stuff you spread out...
The stuff doesn't even make a dent.
It just makes me feel good every time I see a wierd looking cricket.1n out of a gazillion...
I've been here 18 yrs.Got rid of the giant roaches but crickets are forever.
Not as bad as mites though.
We have tons of crickets but I have been slowly seeing a population increase in leopard geckos which is good because they are nocturnal and not really a nuisance and are cricket chomping machines!!
Can I trade ya some seeds for a live female and male Gecko?
Horney and hungry ones I hope...
I got a lot of smoked manzano powder...
If I just put them in my shed they would think they were in lizard heaven,let alone my garden.
Horney and hungry ones I hope...
I got a lot of smoked manzano powder...
If I just put them in my shed they would think they were in lizard heaven,let alone my garden.
I don't even know how to go about sending live animals but actually pet stores in California carry a lot of lizards most likely natives too and I don't know if they are as good as leopards but they are a lot cheaper to buy green anoles are cool and usually cost 8 bucks a piece to buy.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_anole
I could ask the local store that sells the green anoles if they could ship them or how I could?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_anole
I could ask the local store that sells the green anoles if they could ship them or how I could?
