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Cartz's 2013-14 Glog - Video update - Waaay overdue

Hey all, I find myself with a couple of free hours and thought I would finally contribute something to the forums that I've been lurking around for the last 12 months.
 
My motivation for posting a grow log this season is simple - I need to restore some pride. To be blunt, last summer was my first time growing and I sucked pretty hard. I did somehow manage to pull a few pods amidst the carnage of being double teamed by my own stupidity and mother nature, but I'm determined to be more successful this season.
 
Given that I am still very much a rookie, please don't hesitate to offer any advice or criticism you have if you see me doing anything dumb on here.   
 
Living in Brisbane (AUS), I wanted to get things off to an early start this season. I purchased my seed stock from a couple of local vendors (JungleRain and the delightfully half-mad folk at The Hippy Seed Company) in early June, together with a couple of small heated propagators. I decided on a 100% jiffy pellet based propagation this year, simply because sitting on my couch with a steaming kettle and a bowl seemed like a cosier option than sitting on the floor up to my wrists in dirt filling up seed cells. 
 
On 28 June 2013 I planted the following seeds (4 per jiffy):
 
Biker Billy Jalapeno
Mucho Nacho Jalapeno
Bulgarian Carrot
Aji Lemon
Tabasco
Hot Fish
Super Chilli
Kanthari
Goatsweed
Orange Manzano
Scarlet Lantern
Choc Habanero
White Devils Tongue
Fatalii
Bahamian Goat Pepper
Bih Jolokia
Bhut Jolokia x Mayan Red
THSC Naga 7
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
THSC Trinidad Scorpion Chocolate 
7-Pod Primo x Choc Habanero f3
7-Pod Jonah
7-Pod Brainstrain
 
The jiffys were kept in a heated propagator with all the air vents closed in the dank spare bedroom. I resisted my usual OCD urge to look at them every 5 minutes and only checked on them twice a day to try and keep the temp constant. The $2 thermometer told me it stayed between 28-30 degrees in there. 
 
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Turns out the heated propagator was a good investment as I didn't have to wait nearly as long for some hooks as I did last season (when they just lived in a container under the sink). The next shot was taken 7 days after planting:
 
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It was 10 days after planting, and 4 days after the first hooks came through that I learnt my next lesson - I probably should have taken those jiffys that had sprouted straight out into some light. But I didn't, and they got reeeeaaaally leggy, real fast haha:
 
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10 days after sowing the seeds, and 4 days after the first hooks popped through, I decided to sow some more. There were a few different species I still hadn't planted, plus I was worried about the longevity of a few of the really leggy, pale seedlings. So on 8 July 2013 I planted the following (again 4 seeds per jiffy):
 
Biker Billy Jalapeno
Mucho Nacho Jalapeno
Aji Lemon
Orange Cobra
De arbol Blood
Blondie
Naga Morich x Tabasco
Bhut Jolokia
Pimenta de Neyde
7-Pod Jonah x Trinidad Yellow Scotch Bonnet (called a 'Nebru' by THSC)
 
I had pretty good germination rates for most of this second batch, with most species popping up between 7 and 10 days. However, by 23 July 2013 I decided what the heck and gave a few more of the slower varieties seeds a 24 hour chamomile tea soak before burying them. Interestingly, the only varieties that the soak reduced the germination time of by more then a day were the Moruga (from 9 to 6 days) and the Jonah (from 13 to 7 days). Don't know how typical this is?
 
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Here's a shot of the seedlings warming up in a sunny window taken about 30 July 2013. They are mostly looking pretty good and their will to live seems to have overcome my early negligence in letting them get so leggy. There's already some nice variegation in the first true leaves on the Hot Fish, although I'm sure that's more to do with the quality of JungleRain's seed stock than anything I've done:
 
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It was about the time of this pic that I had to start thinking about giving them some more room to grow. It's still mid-winter so there's no way they were going outside and I didn't have anywhere I could keep their feet warm yet. I started researching grow lights on the forums and was just totally overwhelmed by the amount of tech-jargon and seemingly contradictory information on there. I kinda gave up and just decided that any light would be better then none so I went to the local electrical wholesaler and picked up a couple of 38w fluoro's for only $20 a pop. I thought they were a steal compared to some of the prices I had seen. 1 trip to Bunnings and 2 hours of internet electrical wiring research later I had a very simple, rustic, but (hopefully) workable solution. They sit in the window of my north facing balcony so they get plenty of natural light already, and will hopefully appreciate just a little heat boost from the fluoro's until September when I'll move them outside.
 
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All things considered, my seedlings all seem fairly happy and I THINK I'm off to an ok start for my second season. I should note that I still have 0% germination on the following varieties, which is bit of a downer:
 
Bhut Jolokia x Mayan Red
Brainstrain
Bih Jolokia
Bulgarian Carrot
 
Any recommendations on how long I should keep them in the propagator until I give up on them?
 
Well that's about it, apologies for this first Glog entry being retrospective, but I'll be keeping it current now that I've got it up and running.
 
Thanks for checking out my Glog and please feel free to comment/criticise/enquire... :dance:
 
No words can express the intense hate I feel for broad mite. Mate, taking into consideration the battle you have on your hands (trust me, I know!), you are doing an awesome job on your second grow. Just don't lose that fighting spirit... there is never an end to broad mite here in SE QLD. :(
 
Cartz said:
even if it did kill them I would still have the same issue as I do with the mite soap, which is that it works well but only if I get direct contact with the mites. And therein lies the difficulty when you have more than half a dozen plants - it becomes a massively onerous task to ensure that you've got a good covering under every single leaf. I just don't think a quick fix exists for these blighters.
 
Neoseiulus californicus predator mites. ;) Relatively quick fix. Set, forget and let them feast their little mite hearts out. Trouble is, as undeniably awesome as the little buggers are, they just won't establish themselves here permanently and I'm having to re-release a new lot every couple months if I want to keep on top of it. It seems after they devour all the broad mite in the realease area they either move on or die or stop reproducing due to the diminishing numbers of their favourite food (leaving the release area vulnerable again and thus it begins again). I tell ya, It's a grand couple months not having to worry about battling broad mite bastages though!
 
Cartz said:
The BB's look good don't they! I'm really keen to try them and see how they compare to the mucho nachos. Hopefully a touch hotter.
 
The BB's I grew last season were actually very mild but tasted fantastic. Much better flavour than the Mucho Nacho by my tastes. Have any of your BB pods ripened yet?
 
Jamison said:
Awesome update Cartz! Them Bahamian Goats are a thing of beauty my friend! Where in the US are you going? Congrats on the marriage! Here is a pic of my Goat's Weed from this year if you are interested.
 
 
Thanks Jamison, those bahamian goat pods have certainly got me feeling much better about things. Hopefully there'll be a bunch more waiting for me when I get home! Yep your goats weed looks like what I was expecting. Perhaps my pods will start getting vertical as the plant becomes more sturdy. 
 
Cheers for the well wishes. So far we've spent a week in NYC, 3 days in Vegas, and the rest of the time in Vancouver. We are driving down to Seattle tomorrow to go to the Sea Hawks game...I'm so psyched to go to my first NFL game. We did an NHL game at MSG last week when we watched the Rangers destroy the Penguins but I have a feeling tomorrow will top that!  :)
 
 
Devv said:
Nice update!
 
Congratulations! And enjoy the honeymoon, I've been on one for 34 years ;)
 
Cheers Scott! And I'm sure your better half would love hearing that. Hopefully she wouldn't disagree with you haha  ;)
 
 
ivplay said:
Looking good!  The Bahamian Goat is interesting; I haven't seen that before, and will have to research it a bit.
 
Hi Jason, the B-Goat has become quite popular here recently. You should definitely check it out, I doubt you'll be disappointed if you decide to give it a grow.
 
 
Sarge said:
Awesome dude. Really intrigued by the biker billy . Might have to get some seeds from you. I love my salsas. Hopefully your sis does a good job for you looking after the plants. If I lived close by id maintain them for you.

Enjoy your trip mate!
 
Hey mate, I'm curious about it too. I have a feeling it might become my go-to jalapeño. Barring any disaster I'll have a few ripe ones waiting for me to taste test as soon as I get home! I have loads of seeds so I'll set some aside for you. Appreciate the sentiment, I haven't got any more then a 'they are alive' comment from my sister...so I'm not exactly confident about how they are doing haha. Other than that, the trip has been great so far  :)
 
 
Bodeen said:
Really enjoyed reading through your glog.  Continued success to you and your plants.  I have a question about your staking technique.  I have never seen peppers staked in such a way or so low.  Not critiquing it, just don't know it.  I have been caging mine every year and was thinking if staking would be a better way to go.
 
Thanks!!!
 
Thanks for checking the glog out Jeff! I thought I'd change up my staking technique a bit this year to try and combat the damage my plants copped from storms last season. It's not always windy on my balcony but the occasional storm gusts are pretty strong and were snapping a lot of branches off. The twist ties I was using with the single stake technique were also doing a lot of surface damage to the stem. The idea with 2 stakes and the yarn is that the plant should still be able to bend and move freely in strong wind gusts, without being pushed past their limits and snapping. They shouldn't be staked so low though...that was just laziness and me not keeping up with their growth  :P
 
 
PIC 1 said:
It's nice to see others growing the Fish Peppers. I use them while they're still green mortared up with Ginger, Garlic, Green Mango, Vinegar and Salt...that would make a nice
condiment with fried or pickled Whiting...

Enjoy your honeymoon, 31 yrs here...and still taking about the great times then and now.
 
Hi there Greg! There are many reasons that I try hard to keep up to date with your glog, one of those being your obvious skills in the kitchen. You do amazing work and I really appreciate guys like you, Ramon et al. sharing your creativity and knowledge. I'll be sure to give that condiment a go with some whiting just as soon as I've got a few more unripe Hot Fish pods to play with  :)
 
 
gasificada said:
No words can express the intense hate I feel for broad mite. Mate, taking into consideration the battle you have on your hands (trust me, I know!), you are doing an awesome job on your second grow. Just don't lose that fighting spirit... there is never an end to broad mite here in SE QLD. :(
 
gasificada said:
 
Neoseiulus californicus predator mites. ;) Relatively quick fix. Set, forget and let them feast their little mite hearts out. Trouble is, as undeniably awesome as the little buggers are, they just won't establish themselves here permanently and I'm having to re-release a new lot every couple months if I want to keep on top of it. It seems after they devour all the broad mite in the realease area they either move on or die or stop reproducing due to the diminishing numbers of their favourite food (leaving the release area vulnerable again and thus it begins again). I tell ya, It's a grand couple months not having to worry about battling broad mite bastages though!
 
 
The BB's I grew last season were actually very mild but tasted fantastic. Much better flavour than the Mucho Nacho by my tastes. Have any of your BB pods ripened yet?
 
Gassy, old friend, good to hear from you! Thank you very much for the kind words. I know no one understands and hates the broad mite quite like you...and I appreciate that haha. I thought this year if I was more proactive than reactive I might have more luck with them. And I have...but the buggers still got the jump on me in the end. Next year, neoseiulus californicus for sure! Are you growing this year? Glog?
 
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the BB, I thought they were supposed to be a little hotter than the Mucho Nacho, but I'm stoked to hear you liked the taste. Very keen to give these a taste when a get home. Although having a Facebook newsfeed full of insane storm photos and tennis ball sized hailstones hasn't left me convinced that I'll actually have a garden to return to... :confused:
 
Hey there everyone. I got back yesterday after nearly 4 weeks of honeymooning in the lands of apple pie and maple syrup. I had an absolute blast but it's great to be home. It was stupidly cold and I was stoked to come back to a hot and humid Brisbane Spring. I was pretty nervous about what state my plants would be in given there had been a heap of crazy storms here, coupled with the fact I was relying on a sister to come over and water the plants. 
 
Happily I had no reason to worry. My plants are pretty much thriving right now. :dance: There are a bunch more pods, and even the sickly ones have put on heaps of growth. 
Here are a couple of group shots that show just how crowded the balcony is becoming:
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My Jonah 7-Pod was doing nothing when I left, but now it's bushed up a lot and put on a few pods. These are the first superhot pods from this year's grow :)
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The White Devils Tongue has ripened its first set of pods and round 2 have also set and are putting on size. These are probably 'off-white' but I'm not complaining. 
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My very first Fatalii has now put on a few pods. Can't wait to give these a taste test.
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The Pimenta de Neyde is now officially the tallest plant on the balcony. It's a bit over 4ft and counting. It's got decent pod coverage too. 
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This is one of JungleRain's hybrids, a Primo x Choc Hab. It's an f3 so I'm expecting plenty of variation but so far I see tails and the pods look like they are gonna be BIG. If I start seeing bumps I'm going to be thrilled, but probably too scared to taste-test it. I dunno, maybe after a couple of drinks.
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This is the straight up Chocolate Hab. Never tried these but I'm expecting good things.
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My Bahamian Goat Pepper looks to have stayed healthy and has now ripened a few of its first pods. I really like the look of the scorpion-ish one to the left. Another that I'm excited to taste-test. 
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Completely white Hot Fish anyone? (Just for you, Jamison!)
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I've got a few more pics that I'll put up shortly. Stay tuned for a confused (as in RED) Aji Lemon and an OW Ghost that's come back from the dead...
 
Thanks Ramon.
 
So here is a curious one. It's definitely an Aji Lemon but the pods forming on one of the forks are turning red instead of yellow. This plant really suffered from a lack of water while I was away and all the pods have shrivelled and gone mushy, so I won't be tasting this batch, but if the next set puts out red and yellow ripe pods again I'll definitely be testing them to compare taste. Has anyone else had an Aji Lemon put out ripe red and yellow pods of the same plant?
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Here's one of my Hot Fish plants showing the cool colour change from green and yellow through to ripe red. Nothing unusual about this one, just thought it was a nice example (please excuse the mite damaged plant - it's trying hard to bounce back!). 
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Next up is an OW Ghost that I'd all but forgotten about. It did nothing at all last year but out of the blue put on size while I was away and now has some awesome looking pods on it. A good example of some chinenses taking a while to hit their stride I guess. There are also upwards growing pods on one of the forks which seems peculiar to me, but this is my first Ghost so I don't know if it's normal or not.
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This is one of my Naga Morich x Tabascos (another of JungleRain's creations). The first half a dozen pods are much more naga-ish, but it's just started to put on a few that look more nipple shaped. I'm very curious to see what it settles on.
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This is my straight up Naga Morich OW. Similar story to the OW Ghost. Did nothing at all last year, stayed small and never even looked like setting pods. It's now shot up and has put on its first few pods.
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No pods on the next few, but I wanted to show a few of the stragglers that have really bounced back nicely from the mites.
 
First up is the Nebru (Jonah 7-Pod x Trinidad Yellow Scotch Bonnet)..
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Next is the Kanthari. I'm really glad this one bounced back as it was more of a curiosity grow and if it didn't give me some pods this season it would be a waste to grow it again next year if it turns out I didn't like it.
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My only Trinidad Scorpion Moruga looking much happier.
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My humble little Tabasco. Easily my favourite tasting of the 'normal' heat range chillies. Hopefully I get a stack of pods from her and her sisters this season.
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Last photo for this update is of my first ripe (well, harvested) chillies from this seasons grow - a few Biker Billy Jals that I was very keen to try. To be fair they were probably at their best a week before I came home but I had to give them a go anyway. They do have their own flavour that is distinct from the standard jalapeno. To me they were more mellow with a very pleasant sweet vs salty thing going on. No real heat to speak of but I liked the flavour a lot. These were very early pods so the heat might go up a notch, but I can't see them rivalling a Mucho Nacho for heat. That said, there's definitely a place in my garden for both of these.
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That's it for now, thanks for stopping in everyone :)
 
Absolutely amazing dude. That brilliant. When we watch our plants grow its like watching grass grow. When we turn our back and turn again look what happens! You've got some really funky looking pods there man brilliant stuff. I might have to exchange seeds with you if you'll be saving some this year!
 
Sarge said:
Absolutely amazing dude. That brilliant. When we watch our plants grow its like watching grass grow. When we turn our back and turn again look what happens! You've got some really funky looking pods there man brilliant stuff. I might have to exchange seeds with you if you'll be saving some this year!
 
Cheers Sarge! I know right, I'm really happy with them - I should go on holidays more often haha.
 
Yep I'll be saving seeds from all of the best looking pods as I get much better germination rates with saved seeds (as opposed to seeds bought retail). I'll have plenty to share around :)    
 
Cartz said:
 
Cheers Sarge! I know right, I'm really happy with them - I should go on holidays more often haha.
 
Yep I'll be saving seeds from all of the best looking pods as I get much better germination rates with saved seeds (as opposed to seeds bought retail). I'll have plenty to share around :)    
 
Too true man. I saved seeds from a Red Hab from a friends plant. Threw 10 in the dirt and got 10 plants. No attention was given to them at all. I need to go on vacation!!!
 
Sawyer said:
Great looking grow, Cartz.  That Fish is showing some of the best variegation I've seen on one.
 
Thanks for stopping by John. I really do love my Fish, they are the first to catch the eye when you look out at the balcony.
 
 
Devv said:
Very nice Nathan!
 
Those plants are surely happy! You should have an excellent season this year.
 
Once again congrats on getting hitched!
 
Hi Scott, I'm doing my best and am so glad the plants are reciprocating the love at the moment!
 
And thanks again, it was the smartest thing I ever did. She's surely the hot sauce on my taco  :lol:
 
 
Now this is hardly the gallons of pods that many of you pull, but it's my first mini-harvest for the season, so I have to put it on my glog...
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The Bahamian Goats are in the freezer awaiting more friends, and the Devil's Tongues are in the dehydrator getting crispy and improving the aroma of the spare bedroom :)
 
Happy weekend everyone!
 
Man they look nice and crunchy! How do you know when your pods are ripe for picking? I picked a black off of my plant but unfortunately it was still green inside and was still too earthy.
 
Sarge said:
Man they look nice and crunchy! How do you know when your pods are ripe for picking? I picked a black off of my plant but unfortunately it was still green inside and was still too earthy.
 
Yeah some pods take months to ripen, it can be a painful wait! For varieties that don't undergo a final colour change to let you know they are ripe (although most will - even if it's only a subtle darkening), you just need to give the pod a very gentle squeeze. If it is ripe, it will give a little. If unripe, it will still feel completely firm and solid.
 
Good to know. My pods went from green to black in one go. They just seem to get a little fatter every day. Will try the squeeze test!
 
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