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Essegi 2014: 1st grow! Winter is coming.

Ok, today i decided to plant seeds.
First of all i want to thank who helped me in a thread and Sarge in particular that helped me to decide what to do! :D And Lonewolf from pepperfriends forum that has helped me a lot!

My list, all from Semillas, begin of september 2013:
 
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  • Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Red
  • HP22B
  • Trinidad Douglah
  • Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
  • Fatalii
  • Fatalii White
  • Ferenc Tender
I've planted all but Ferenc Tender seeds, i'll plant them next month or in beginning of March. If i'll plant them.
11 per type.
I've treated seeds for 15 mins in a 3% bleach solution then i washed them very well in water before planting.
During that process i lost 1 seed of Trinidad Douglah and 3 of Chocoloate Bhut Jolokia (i suppose 2 of that lost seeds were too tiny anyway).
 
I've used plastic glasses with an hole:
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The soil, specific for seeds (here before planting):
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  • PH 6-7
  • C/N 25
  • 0,6 dS/m
  • organic ferthilizer
  • neutral peat 65% volume
  • organic carbon on dry content 35%
  • organic nitrogen on dry content 11%
  • fulvic and humc carbon on dry content 11%
hope the last 4 are translated accurately...
 
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So 62 plants in total. In a 60*100 cm table
  • I plan to grow them all by myself until i have to change the vase.
  • Then i keep 2 per type (12 in total) of them in a 2,4 L vase each (top external diameter 18 cm). It's ok for my table. The rest goes to friends and relatives.
  • Then 1 per type in a 15-20 L vase each and 1 per type in ground. Or all in vases, but probably half on ground. Of course the last vases will go outside, i have a nice spot of 15 m lenght along my house walls that is without wind and quite hot.
Room, that is heating room:
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That round thing in the left is warm... I've turned on radiator on right.
 
Here measured temps in center table:
 
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Considering some parallax error is 27°C or little more (hoping that thing is accurate) which is 81°F
In the night will be lower but i think still above 20°C (68°F)
There's some natural light, hope that helps.
I have to do some funny things for the light, unfortunately at home have prohibited to use drying racks that would have been perfect.
 
I've a 60*3 watts LED light, nearly 10K lumens. I've found a good price and more than half was a birthday present from friends...
 
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It's the round thing.
Well, no cats or dog allowed in growing room! Hope all goes well..
 
Thanks Devv!
 
cypresshill1973 said:
 
I have a convector hot air oven for pizzas !!! It is smaller than the link, but it works wonders. Even so, in my opinion are best made in a wood oven. 
 
 
My domestic oven while the outside is shaped domestic, inside is industrial and heavy construction. 
 
I bought it in a factory that made ​​industrial ovens. Industrial furnaces manufactured in small sizes for domestic use, but inside they are not. 
 
With this oven I can cook restaurant quality.  Reach 300°c (572°F) easily
 
Wow CH! That seems a nice oven! And of course your grill is more than deserving praises too! :D
Of course wfo are the best, but you need the place and money (or will to diy). For "Pizza Napoletana STG" (the official stuff) in theory you need 485°C floor temp and 430°C vault, 60-90s cooking... The oven i'm interested in reaches 450°C... It seems one of the best compromises about price, quality and ease to use. :P
Oh, and here there are loads of pizzeries, some good some not, but nearly no one make Napoli style and people ussully doesn't know and isn't used to that kind (that is the best i've tried until now and tre truest).
 
Today i visited my plants and you see some color! No pics today cause i forgot the camera, picked few pods, i hope to harvest soon some decent quantities!
Overall i think Moruga is the best plant, big, productive, very hot, i like their taste, strong plant. Also Fatalii is great, less productive but was hardened off later.
Choco bhut is great too but pods seems more inclined to rot. They are my fav looking of my pods btw.
Next week should be of full sun... 3 months that didn't happen that?
I've never used AC that summer... Maybe had some issues with sleep just 3 days due to the heat...
 
OT: where i live ADSL has come! Italy is a bad place for connectivity... Till now i had a wisp so problems like jitter, frequents downs, more than sometimes slow (in a tiresome way), voip impossible, huge lag on online play even with good ping (when i have good lol) or huge ping... At least very cheap and a lot better than a 56k (symmetrical 2M)...
Like... 15 years i was waiting that (in my previous home i had it for 2 months).
So i should be really happy.
But lol i have downstream of 0,65 Mb/s lol (of 7Mb/s of contract)!!! I've tested all (changed modem, pc, cables, phone socket, adsl filters), no way...
Called assistance many times and they will verify, they say i'm within a km of cables (maybe 645m) from DSLAM that is very good and i should have good connectivity (easily up to 20Mb/s that is the fastest contract i can have, until they plant optical phibers...).
They doesn't find issues form remote, but i can't go above 80KB/s from Speedtest or Google Drive or on Debian/Slackware servers for downloading images... So technicians are on the way.
Hope issues resolves. Of course not that this is a tragedy and hopefully this will be fixed quickly, but i was very excited after all that years for that and i found all that slow! At least worth a facepalm! :D
 
For "scrocchiarella romana" and for most of our pizza makers is fine, maybe until 350... My cousin cooks pizza at 320-330 (he's a pizza maker). Not for the stuff i want to do! :D

EDIT: today's harvest:

3 white fatalii, 1 fatalii and 1 choco bhut...
And jujubes, maybe not fully ripen but i like them that way too!
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Essegi said:
OT: where i live ADSL has come! Italy is a bad place for connectivity... Till now i had a wisp so problems like jitter, frequents downs, more than sometimes slow (in a tiresome way), voip impossible, huge lag on online play even with good ping (when i have good lol) or huge ping... At least very cheap and a lot better than a 56k (symmetrical 2M)...
Like... 15 years i was waiting that (in my previous home i had it for 2 months).
So i should be really happy.
But lol i have downstream of 0,65 Mb/s lol (of 7Mb/s of contract)!!! I've tested all (changed modem, pc, cables, phone socket, adsl filters), no way...
Called assistance many times and they will verify, they say i'm within a km of cables (maybe 645m) from DSLAM that is very good and i should have good connectivity (easily up to 20Mb/s that is the fastest contract i can have, until they plant optical phibers...).
They doesn't find issues form remote, but i can't go above 80KB/s from Speedtest or Google Drive or on Debian/Slackware servers for downloading images... So technicians are on the way.
Hope issues resolves. Of course not that this is a tragedy and hopefully this will be fixed quickly, but i was very excited after all that years for that and i found all that slow! At least worth a facepalm! :D
 
Hey Essegi,
most probably you have a very very noisy line.
Last house I lived in, I had ADSL ~1km from the dslam + a very long wire crossing the whole garden from the distribution box to the house.
I had around 18Mb/s synchronized on ADSL2+, a very stable line, modem kept in sync for months.
Currently I'm 580m from the same dslam and a very short indoor circuit. Modem connects via VDSL2 (50 Mb/s :drooling: ), however the line noise is much higher on VDSL and I experience de-synchronizations more frequently.
 
I've yet to check snr values, btw the line itself seems stable, tomorrow i should check that. Isp has reset the line and nothing changed... Btw within 2 day they should tell me something.
 
Indeed, check snr and attenuation too, I have a feeling it might be fluctuating.
Check your indoor circuit, if it's old or so, check the wall mount plug etc.
 
If you have access to the wall mount plug or are able to modify the adsl cable to the modem,
I would try to decouple RD+ or RD-, depending on the wiring standard it might be pin 4 or 5 (blue or blue-white) assuming you have  RJ45 on the wall plug, if not, you'll have to identify the RX pair of the first line.
This will effectively make your modem loose synchronization.
Leave your modem on, do not reset it or so.
Let RX decoupled for a couple of seconds and put it back.
It will try to negotiate the synchronization protocol all over again.
It's worth repeating the procedure a couple of times and check your thought output each time.
However I suspect a noisy line or a very high attenuation, so I doubt resynchronization will have much effect.
 
Thanks for suggestions! I have tripolar plug on wall and i tried also other wall plugs, disconnetted all phones on other plugs and so... I hope it's not an indoor problem since circuit is quite complicated but it's not old, It has 8-9 years.
 
Sun is doing his work: shining! And some more colour is available!
 
Reapers:
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They seem quite slow. Small but decenmt production.
 
Then choco bhuts, morugas and fataliis:
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Small today harvest:
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Hoping next will be bigger. Also some douglahs on the right...
 
lucilanga said:
Indeed, check snr and attenuation too, I have a feeling it might be fluctuating.
Check your indoor circuit, if it's old or so, check the wall mount plug etc.
Lol today has come a technician in home (and luckily today i wasn't at work), he just connected his modem and said that the sync values were ok, checked the line from remote with another technician (they already made that at least 5 times) just that, no download test or else, just opened the tripolar plug and checked for some seconds, and said that the line is ok, the wall plug is ok, all is ok but maybe the pc... I have explained al my tires, he said ok, it's not the pc but didn't care at the least... I haven't even insisted and let him go... Today also has passed the commercial guy that made the contract and has seen for himself the situation... Called back assistance and they'll check the line from cabinet to home and i must leave the modem on... I still believe house wires are ok since the problem is also on the plug nearest of isp line. Telecom isn't cheap but at least you don't pay technicians (maybe just when it's completely your fault) so let them do their work then check home cables later (but they aren't old at all). :)
Also the line is dangerously near at 640 Kb/s in downstream that was an older contract speed...
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Upload is as it should be...
 
Here values like snr and the rest:
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Now i have to wait until 2 days and if noone contact me and the situation is the same i'll call back assistance and maybe my cousin too that made the circuit (he's a full time job professional electrician). :P
 
Other than your noise that seems a bit higer (3-4 times my noise and I have a noisy line), everything seems fine.
Is that a stable 640k ?
I'm willing to bet they forgot to uncap your line from your old contract.
 
I used to own an ISP in the modem days (don't laugh) and out here in the rural areas the buried copper is terrible. I'm sure they're multiplexing over the analog dial tone, at least that's how they do DSL here. Don't know if it holds true fro your situation but I used to tell customer pick up the phone and hit one key. You should here dead silence.
 
Our telco to the school is a PRI sent over a T1 (2 copper pairs) every few years we have issues and they need to find cleaner pairs.
 
Here in the US we have what the telco's call a Dmarc (it's where they connect to us, and their responsibility ends), and the way it's setup is a rj11 ties the house to the telco line. So I was always able to go outside and eliminate the house from the circuit. If you're not setup like that and there's no other testing you can do, try and disconnect all other devices from the circuit like phones and fax machines.
 
Thanks Devv and Lucilanga!
Lucien here those values are considered good (just imagine others... I know a guy that wasn't able to surpass 200kB/s with a 7 Mb/s connection, some friends of mine doesn't go higher than 4 Mb/s).
Cool story Devv!
Commercial guy said that 640 here doesn't exists... But it's around those valours (not dead stable but always between 70-80 kB/s, rarely a tad more).. I've seen in the net that in 2011 that happened to a guy (that had a sync of 6Mb/s more or less) and was a pain to make the isp believe that. I had that contract 8-9 years ago in another house for 3-4 months before transfering (they "transfered" the line too).
Btw i want to go to the isp cable and connect from here. I must ask my cousin where it is, i don't know if it arrives in a room (it's not impossible and if this is the case it would be comfortable) in the house or outside. I believe that isn't home circuit fault, but i must check to be sure. I've a pretty big circuit (6 wall plugs in all house, in series) but if i remove all devices but the filtered modem in the nearest plug or in the farthest nothing changes (downlaod and ping, i didn't check snr and the rest).
 
Returning to peppers... Hoping to harvest some tomorrow or saturday...
Also Semillas has something new interesting to sell: 7pod Bubblegum and Caramel Moruga. Moruga Brown and Jay's Peach should arrive too from Semillas...
At the moment i plan for next year Moruga Caramel, Brown and Yellow, Jay's Peach, 7pod BBG and Rawit... Not much stuff but i plan to keep all in back of the house that isn't huge and there's other stuff...
Also i must overwinter Rocoto, it still has no pods...
 
Essegi said:
Lucien here those values are considered good (just imagine others... I know a guy that wasn't able to surpass 200kB/s with a 7 Mb/s connection, some friends of mine doesn't go higher than 4 Mb/s).
 
One thing I notice your modem connection rate that is 8125 kbps out of 21212 kbps.
Have you tried hitting telecom it's pages directly ? Eg. measure the d/l speed on one of their sites.
Perhaps it's only egress cap.
 
 
Essegi said:
Also Semillas has something interesting to sell: 7pod Bubblegum and Caramel Moruga. Moruga Brown and Jay's Peach should arrive too from Semillas...
At the moment i plan for next year Moruga Caramel, Brown and Yellow, Jay's Peach, 7pod BBG and Rawit... Not much stuff but i plan to keep all in back of the house that isn't huge and there's other stuff...
Also i must overwinter rocoto, it still has no pods...
 
Lol, I keep the same eye on semillas. Those varieties are available but only on the german part of the site, including some varieties we've seen disappear in 2014. They're still available on german side, I'm not sure why so I threw Peter a line 'bout it.
 
I haven't plan the overwinters yet, the aphids and broadmites I had this year with my overwinters don't really make me eager about it either.
 
lucilanga said:
One thing I notice your modem connection rate that is 8125 kbps out of 21212 kbps.
Have you tried hitting telecom it's pages directly ? Eg. measure the d/l speed on one of their sites.
Perhaps it's only egress cap.
Telecom pages are so slow that seems incredible! :D Also they have a "custom" speed test (that by their own statement Ookla one rebranded) I suppose it's capped to Mb for contract. I've verified that isp cable enters in my garege. Maybe my cousin will take a trip here within an hour, i hope so because while i know something of pc i know nothing of electronics. Btw there are tutorials on how work with tripolar plugs. Maybe i should consider myself lucky since that is educational, but i didn't feel that way! :D
Btw if nothing solves i'll try Ne.Me.Sys. software that is a tool from the communication authority, it do extensive tests during 1 to 3 days and if it's not a rubbish statement it has a legit value...
 
lucilanga said:
Lol, I keep the same eye on semillas. Those varieties are available but only on the german part of the site, including some varieties we've seen disappear in 2014. They're still available on german side, I'm not sure why so I threw Peter a line 'bout it.
 
I haven't plan the overwinters yet, the aphids and broadmites I had this year with my overwinters don't really make me eager about it either.
For Semillas stuff i have the impression that Peter just doesn't want/have the time to keep eng pages updated. Maybe he's mantaining the site alone... Last year i ordered from german pages and all was ok (i asked for confirmation to Peter and as always he responded very quickly). Until the day before i didn't found hp22b on en pages. Of course the day i ordered there was hp22d in en pages, i just didn't check that exact day. :D Also i've seen some people complaining that expeditions took a while and they don't got some responses last year and that was in december time... Maybe he took a vacation or just there were too orders, so i'm ordering as soon as seeds that interests me are available, hopefully within 2 weeks.
Do you have any plan for next year?

EDIT: all ok now!
Some tech guys called and admitted that in some part of the net there was a cap of 640 Kb/s!
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I've seen 800kB/s form Slackware servers. Probably i've never seen a Telecom 7Mb so fast! :D
Thanks all for the interest! ;)
 
RI-EDIT:
another small harvest:
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I know it's ridiculous compared to other crops... Reaper on right, for error i picked it.
I don't know if i am right, i'll harvest as soon as available, i don't wait for many pods to be ready together. I know i harvested a bit too early, i should wait 2-3 days more...
 
Now i'm drying all, i believe moruga powder standalone, maybe i'll join reaper powder with wrong pods and 7 pods, maybe i'll join white and yellow fatalli and mayne douglahs and choco bhtus too... I'll see...

Also i'm conisdering just to store dried pods and crush them on need, not make powder now.
 
You may want to dry the pods and flake them rather than turning them into a fine powder.
Find a good auger type spice/peppercorn grinder to use.......turning those flakes into freshly ground powder...in  a few twists.
Fresh ground right on top of the food brings not only the scent but the fresh taste...on....salads, pasta's pizza's
 
Thanks, that's a fine suggestion. Now that i think about that i want some fine powder to make a spiced pizza dough (i believe it would be better than flakes for that), but the tool to make fine powder has recently broken and for the moment i don't plan to buy another one since i can live without (also i want more the oven pizza! :D).
 
I haven't seen one of those rulers in 40+ years, my Dad had one when I was a kid. I'll bet it's a collectors item to someone ;)
 
Glad you're getting your 7mb, woot! I pay for 2mb over wireless, it's the fastest thing out here in the sticks. I tested today and got 1.96mb on a pull. This guy who owns the wireless company used to have his dialup hardware in the rack next to mine at the colo noc. I bailed from the business and he continued, and now is doing really well! Funny I'm HIS customer now..LOL
 
Glad to see you're still pulling! How much time left in your season?
 
Ha ha thanks! That stuff is surely older than me, i've ever seen it around!:D Now i see more the 2m size and made of plastic.
Btw, i believed you had much better connection, so also on your places there are not so fast areas.:p
 
For the time... Who knows? 2-3 years ago was nearly hot till end of novemeber, definetly not the norm.... Maybe that year will be cold earlier, maybe not. Weather is mad those years. I hope at least till the end of october, but mainly to ripe exiting pods, plants are getting to the yellow side. And also if during the day is hotter than August (really, never seen that since i was born) in night is colder, so summer is ending. If we admit it really started here this year.:p
 
Devv said:
How much time left in your season?
Now i have a reply... They'll plow soil within a month... I hope most of pods will ripe. If many pods are left whe they'll plow is a good idea to eradicate plants and let the pods be on them as longer as i can?
Btw another small harvest today:
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Moruga,  fatalii, 1 white fatalii, 1 choco bhut, 1 wrong pod, and a nice shaped reaper (the second from bottom right).
 
1 fatalli was a bit rot and a the choco bhut nearly all (i suspect also douglah and a moruga) so i kept good part and made a simple bruschetta, i had some new cheese to taste: 
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Cheese are from a small local producer, it's a nice thing since they are genuine not too expensive (and an aged one imho is a true bargain). There's mozz wich is nice and a cheese with local black truffle. Then fatalii and choco bhut. Of couse grilled bread rubbed with garlic. Nor evo nor tomato that time, i usually use them for that. Later topped with Crudo di Parma.
Good!
 
I have the impression that brown varieties are less resistant to rotting.
 
You had me at cheese with local black truffle!!! Drooling......
Yesterday I bought Tom with black truffle but I havent tried it yet, and I also have salami with black truffle waiting to be enjoyed!!!

Your bruschetta looks delicious!!
 
Hey Essegi,
how's life @ 7Mb/s ?
Is is stable enough?
 
Your early picked reaper pod look very similar with my reapers.
I had no tail all season long :(
That's the closest I could get to a tail:
 
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Very nice taste though, heat wise perhaps closer to a brainstrain.
Will you save a couple of seed from those two true pods for me ?
 
 
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