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Highalt's 2013 Grow - End of Season Wrap Up

I know some of you guys have already started seeds for next year's grow, and I should have started the Manzano's a month ago, but I am still working on finalizing the grow list.

Each year since I started growing peppers, the list has gotten bigger, and they have taken up a larger % of my vegetable growing space. I started working part-time 3 months ago, and I am a mother of three, so I am struggling with being realistic about how much time I can devote to pepper growing this coming season. Right now, I've got between 65 and 70 varieties on the list, and some of them I'd really like to have more than one plant. Last year, I ended up with about 50 varieties and a total of 75 plants. So you can see that I have some work to do before I start putting the seeds in the dirt!

I thought I would go ahead and put up my tentative list, and use the feedback I get from you guys to help me narrow things down a bit. Those of you that know me will notice that I still haven't gotten brave enough to add any supers yet ... maybe next year. :snooty:

So here's what I got so far:

Annums
Alice's Favorite
Alma Paprika
Ancho Gigantia, and/or Ancho San Luis
Barker (NuMex)
Biker Billy Jalapeno
Black Hungarian
Cayenne Thick (Can't remember who it was that was raving about this one this past season, but I don't have seeds for this one yet.)
Chilhuacle Amarillo
Chocolate Cherry
Cochiti
Cosa Arrugada and/or Pepperoncini
Costeno Amarillo
Fish
Fresno
Georgia Flame
Goat's Weed
Golden Cayenne
Hungarian Hot Wax
Jaloro
Jamaican Hot Yellow (Anyone have a source for these? It's confusing to me that the Jamaican Hot Choc. is a Chinense, but this one is listed as an Anuum!)
Jimmy Nardello
Leutschauer Paprika
Lumbre
Mulato Isleno
NuMex Pinata
NuMex Vaquero
Patio Red Marconi
Pusztagold
Sandia
Sante Fe Grande
Serrano (Not sure which one. May try the purple one this year.)
Tangerine Pimento and/or Yummy
Tobasco (Need seeds for this one.)
Zapotec Jalapeno

Baccatums
Aji Chinchi Amarillo
Aji Yellow
Birgit's Locoto
Bishop's Crown (Don't actually have seeds for this one yet. If anyone has some, I'd be willing to trade for them.)
El Oro de Equador
Inca Red Drop
Lemon Drop (Maybe. Last time they were bitter. May try a difference source.)
Pimenta Barro do Robiero
Purple de Arbol and/or Negro de Arbol (Which one is better?)

Chinenses
Aji Dulce (type 1 or 2 ?) Is this the same as Rocotillo?
Aji Limo Rojo
Bonda ma Jacques (Don't have seeds for this one yet either. May just grow Gold Bullet or regular yellow habanero as a substitute?)
Cheiro Roxa
Habanero, Peach (and maybe the Pink as well)
Habanero, White (I have the regular white, and White Bullet. Is the Peruvian White better, or are they all about the same?)
Jamaican Hot Chocolate
Purple Bhut (Okay, I don't have seeds for this one either. Maybe I'll substitute Condor's Beak if I can't find any.)
Scotch Bonnet Yellow (Have some labeled True Jamaican Scotch Bonnet. Should those be yellow? Or red?)

Pubescens (Yeah, I know I'm really too late on these, and probably won't get any ripe fruit this coming season)
Orange Manzano
Red Manzano
Yellow Manzano


Well, I think that's about it. I'm sure the list will change a few more times before it's a done deal, but at least it's a start!

So tell me what you think about the ones I have questions on, or let me know where to find seeds for the ones I'm missing, or tell me what I should have on the list and don't. Just kidding on that last one!!!
 
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Your not too far behind me Bonnie.  I am a bit behind this year.   My mother's dementia is getting worse.  She's 81.  Hard to keep
an eye on her and work in the garden.  I don't want to put her in a nursing home, they are terrible.  I am getting work done because
she has been sleeping a lot lately. ... I think your locoto is bigger than mine lol.
 
Devv said:
Wow such variety!
 
They look great and will soon be a kickin'!
 
Nice job on the video, what did you use to make it? I haven't even tried yet so you're way ahead of me!
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Hi Scott!  Thanks for watching the video!  It's a Nikon Coolpix L310.  I set it to record, but thought it wasn't running yet, so I apologize for the craziness at the beginning of the video.  I'll do better next time.   I started not to post it at all, but figured you guys could look past my mistakes.
 
Shane, I tried importing the video straight from the computer to the Window's Movie Maker, but it kept telling me that it wasn't a file type that is supported, whatever that means?  I don't remember having that problem last year when I made videos, so not sure what I did differently this time, other than I am using a different camera.
 
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When I went to the community garden to check on everything, I found tiny little pods on the Costeno Amarillo, and one on the Ancho Gigantia!  Hopefully, all this crazy wind won't cause them to drop.  It's not like hurricane or tornado level winds, but even 20 - 30 mph, when it's for hours and hours at a time, can really stress the plants.
 
While I was there I fed the grasshoppers planted some pole beans.  
 
Back at the house, I sowed some cucumbers on the right hand side of the veggie bed.  I also sowed some Scarlet Runner beans next to a trellis in the main flower bed.  Chances are the grasshoppers will mow them down as usual, but I'm going to keep trying to grow beans here.  Yeah, I know doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity, but I refuse to give up on growing beans yet.
 
All that's left to plant now are the melons and pumpkins/winter squash.  First I'll have to clear the area along the fence of all the weeds that are growing there.
 
Gotta post some love in honor of your Hotties hitting the dirt, as you said they looked a little stressed but they’ll come back stronger for sure! Great pics and video … congrats on first pod \o/
 
 
 
roper2008 said:
Your not too far behind me Bonnie.  I am a bit behind this year.   My mother's dementia is getting worse.  She's 81.  Hard to keep
an eye on her and work in the garden.  I don't want to put her in a nursing home, they are terrible.  I am getting work done because
she has been sleeping a lot lately. ... I think your locoto is bigger than mine lol.
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I am sorry to hear about your mom, and don't blame you for not wanting to put her in a nursing home.
 
That Birgit's Locoto is going to take off as soon as it has time to spread its roots a bit.  Can't wait to see how big it will get.  My t-posts in the pepper patch are only 4' tall, so not sure what I'll do if it exceeds that!
 
WalkGood said:
Gotta post some love in honor of your Hotties hitting the dirt, as you said they looked a little stressed but they’ll come back stronger for sure! Great pics and video … congrats on first pod \o/
 
 
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I stopped by the C.G. on the way to drop the kids off for their last day of school, and head to work, but only had time to hit the rain delay on the soaker hoses. We actually got 1/10th of an inch of rain overnight!  Woohoo! No time for pics though, maybe I can get a shot of the baby pods tomorrow.  The wind is back and it looks like it will be around for another day or two at least.  Guess the plants are just going to have to tough it out.  If I waited for no wind to plant out, I'd have to settle for an indoor grow till mid- June!
 
Here is what is leftover after planting out!  
 

 
 
That's  ~ 30 peppers, and maybe 15 tomato plants.  I sent a list to a couple of gardening friends, so they can pick what they want, and then I'll give what's left away at church.  Well, I might save just one or two in case I need replacement plants.    ;)
 
I only got to watch a couple minutes of your video so far, but everything I saw looked great :)
I'll make time to watch the rest in the morning. Hopefully the wind gives me a break, i'm spending way too much time fixing things it is breaking...lol
 
Sanarda said:
Loved the vid Bonnie. Your variety is spot on. Getting pods so early is an awesome feeling. Means you did well. Congrats.
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Thanks, Pia!  The plants were getting so tall right before plant out that I was beginning to wonder if starting them so early was a mistake, but now I'm glad I did.  Hoping for some earlier harvests this year!
 
DesertChris said:
I only got to watch a couple minutes of your video so far, but everything I saw looked great :)
I'll make time to watch the rest in the morning. Hopefully the wind gives me a break, i'm spending way too much time fixing things it is breaking...lol
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I hear ya on the wind!!!  Every time I think we are going to get a break from it, the forecast changes again.  Now they are saying 40 mph gusts today and tomorrow, and now the low is predicted to be 39 degrees the next two nights.  That's a little too close for comfort!  There's no way to cover the CG plot, so I'll just have to hope for the best.
 
I sure hope the temps don't get too low. Is the dew point low?
 
Thanks for the video info, I'm trying to decide what camera to get when some $$$ are free.
 
The dew point is 24 degrees, and the low is now pred. at 38 degrees.  So is that a low enough dew point, or are we likely to get a frost?  There is some cloud cover.  Isn't a frost more likely with a clear sky?  Trying to remain hopeful!
 
With the winds, I'm not sure a row cover wouldn't do as much damage as the frost.  Sure wish I had Rick's hoop set-up right about now!
 
highalt said:
The dew point is 24 degrees, and the low is now pred. at 38 degrees.  So is that a low enough dew point, or are we likely to get a frost?  There is some cloud cover.  Isn't a frost more likely with a clear sky?  Trying to remain hopeful!
 
With the winds, I'm not sure a row cover wouldn't do as much damage as the frost.  Sure wish I had Rick's hoop set-up right about now!
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I hear ya sister... we're pulling for ya here!
 
If you do go with that kind of setup next year, you'll have to pull up the T posts before you can set up the hoops. Then when it warms up and the hoops come out, you can put them back again. Cheers!
 
Way to go with the plantouts Bonnie !
Great idea to support the lower part on the stems on those taller plants, you sure do get the wind gusts in that area.
Ya did a better job pronouncing the varieties than I could. I'd be turning the plant tags 180 deg to see if the lettering made more sense.... :D 
Good luck with the podding up, I see numerous buds and flowers developing...
 
Fingers crossed on your weather! Sounds like you should be ok...can't post emoticons from my phone but picture the one repeatedly clasping hands praying (here)
 
stickman said:
I hear ya sister... we're pulling for ya here!
 
If you do go with that kind of setup next year, you'll have to pull up the T posts before you can set up the hoops. Then when it warms up and the hoops come out, you can put them back again. Cheers!
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Yeah, I thought about that.  Sure don't want to pound all those in again!  What if the hoops ran across the rows instead of down them (north to south, not east to west).  Do you know what mean?  So there would be 4 short sections that covered all three rows, instead of three 20' sections.  Not sure if that would work, it's just a thought.
 
stc3248 said:
Fingers crossed on your weather! Sounds like you should be ok...can't post emoticons from my phone but picture the one repeatedly clasping hands praying (here)
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Now one forecast is calling for 37 tomorrow night, and clear skies.  That is a bit worrisome.  I know last year when we got that late frost it was kind of patchy, hit some things and missed others, so chances are it wouldn't kill everything off, but it would sure set the plants back that are hit.  Sure don't want a repeat of Dshlogg's experience this season!
 
On a brighter note, I did get a few pod and bloom pics this morning on my way to work.
 
The tiny little pods make my fingers look ginormous!   :rofl:    This one's Costeno Amarillo (at least I hope this year's is really Amarillo!)
 

 
Ancho Gigantia
 

 
Aji Chinchi Amarillo
 

 

 
Cochiti
 

 
Cheiro Roxa
 

 
"The" Fatalii
 

 
... and Pimenta Barro do Robiero
 

 
If everything makes it through till Saturday, the weather should start to warm up again, and I can relax a while.
 
highalt said:
 
Yeah, I thought about that.  Sure don't want to pound all those in again!  What if the hoops ran across the rows instead of down them (north to south, not east to west).  Do you know what mean?  So there would be 4 short sections that covered all three rows, instead of three 20' sections.  Not sure if that would work, it's just a thought.
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Sure it'll work! Just make sure you leave yourself a way to get in among the plants to water and fertilize. If you use 10 foot sections of half inch PVC pipe or bent conduit for the hoops you'll be able to span 5 feet with them and end up with the hoops about waist high. Use 15 pound weights on the edges of the plastic sheeting to hold them down. The structure is low enough to the ground that it'll take high winds without blowing over if you do. You just can't let the wind get under the edges of the plastic.  The other advantage of using weights  is that it's easier to just move them aside and throw the plastic over to the other side of the hoops to get access to the plants for watering or whatever. At my age, I don't want to be crawling inside on my hands and knees in that cramped space with a watering can that I have to fill multiple times. Lol!
 
Nice looking pics of your in-ground plants and pods! Keep up the good work Bonnie!
 
Thanks Rick, and JJJ!!!
 
Went by the community garden this morning, and after a low of 38 degrees, NO FROST!    :dance:    A few missing leaves from the winds, but lots of tiny pods, and tons of blooms.  Pretty much everything is blooming, except the Goat Weed, True Jam. Scotch Bonnet, and the last Peach Habanero to sprout.  I took the camera with me today, but since it was the weekend, there were other gardeners down there, and I didn't want them to know what a weirdo I really am, so I left the camera in the car!
 
Took the training wheels off the tomatoes this morning and removed the wall-o-waters.  The plants that have been inside them for the past 2 weeks, are twice the size of the ones planted last weekend!  I will be buying more of those next season for sure!
 
This picture of Geum 'Fireball' (also known as Grecian Rose) is a test.  I am having to switch to another photo hosting site, since my photobucket account has reached it's limit, and I am not willing/able to pay for that service.  This pic was uploaded to imgur, based on Shane's recommendation.
 
 
 
Think you're gonna like imgur Bonnie...took me a while to take the bait when the IT folks at work recommended it, but glad I finally did.
 
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