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HillBilly Jeff's 2014 Adventure - Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!!

HillBilly Jeff said:
 

Just throwing this up here to plan out my list for next year.  Looking at some changes to my grow next year.
 
Bodeen said:
Just throwing this up here to plan out my list for next year.  Looking at some changes to my grow next year.
 

Just throwing this up here to plan out my list for next year.  Looking at some changes to my grow next year.
 
Jeff, really, were I you, because I did, I kinda used Mel's mix amended. Try some Mom/Pop feed/seed/garden stores for perlite. I got two gonzo body-bags of it--honestly I needed the ex to help me carry it--heavy perlite?--yep, for 15 bucks. Now, they didn't KNOW what they had. (Shame on me for not telling them as that's where I get it now), but I used "black dirt" as you call it, and Black Kow, since I had no source of composted horse manure then, Azomite--eyeballed--probably for 5 gallon bucket into wheelbarrow--a quart, lol, hell, it's a mineral source, peat (3.8 cu foot bales), dolomite lime (got both at HDepot) to bring pH down from peat as I went nearly half peat for a reason: topsoil, even good stuff, BKow, is going away. Peat mix won't. You'll just have to top it off every year with some compost, Black Kow, composted horse "poopy," etc. Because the peat mix hangs out and supports the rest of the stuff ya put in beds. While at HDepot, I batted eyes, or just asked for like refrig box cardboard, and that's GREAT to keep down weeds, double cardboard up, wet piss outta it, let it sit, wet it again before filling. The initial cost is filling. I added bone and blood meal and kelp meal to the initial mix. Also, add some, again, Mater Magic--Home Depot has this, and is better imo, than new Tomato-Tone. Were I doing it now, I'd add Indonesian high phosphorous bat guano. But I just add that to specific hole, which given price of the stuff, may be best bet. Oh yeah, I added a little vermiculite, not much--1/3rd that of perlite. Got that at HDepot too because it helps beds retain more water than a container. But again, I'd go easy on it, but that's up to you. And when I build at least one asparagus and garlic bed this summer, am going with same mix and process as it astonishes me how little horse manure I need to top off each bed the next spring.
 
Good score on those timbers! You could do an internet search on Mel's Mix and amend it but I beg ya to keep the peat. Reason I like it is that it stays fluffy and is relatively self-maintaining aside from topping off in spring. Too much soil or topsoil (regardless of grade or value is less than cool idea if ya get rain, snow, freeze/thaw cycles as we do); a friend of mine couldn't figure out what was wrong with her raised beds: they sunk. As in Titanic, sunk. I asked what she put in mix. She and her husband used local Grade A garden topsoil and horse manure. Hell, too much trouble to go to NOT to make sure the foundation of the mix is gonna hang around. Just my opinion, sweetie. Hell, peat's inexpensive for a long term project. You gonna use lag bolts or rebar or other? I hope I didn't overstep bounds but that's my .02. Peace, hon.
 
Jeff,
 
I just used straight up potting soil in my raised bed. I would really have liked to put the bottom half in heavy soil to help with moisture, but it is what it is. We still want to build another, but roundtuits are hard to come by lately.
 
Found these at Rural King.  I think I will pick up a couple more my next trip down there fishing.
 
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I sure wish I could find more than MG products around here and that includes San Antonio. Maybe it's because as soon as I get there I want to go home...LOL
 
Just too many people, and too many crazy drivers. LB loves to shop, but nowadays she wants me to come along, hence the short trips...How's that song go...I'm a country boy.. :D
 
69/72 tomatoes germinated for me.  Some cells had doubles.  Planted 18 days ago.
 
 
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Jeff H said:
Looks like the raised bed will be coming along nicely. You've seen pics of the stuff I put in mine, but since I haven't grown anything in it yet, I won't give you advice.
 
Next on my list is composted cow manure.  I believe it is like a buck for a 40 pound bag.
 
Devv said:
I sure wish I could find more than MG products around here and that includes San Antonio. Maybe it's because as soon as I get there I want to go home...LOL
 
Just too many people, and too many crazy drivers. LB loves to shop, but nowadays she wants me to come along, hence the short trips...How's that song go...I'm a country boy.. :D
 
 
Excuse me ma'am, I saw you walk in
I turned around, I'm not a stalker
Where you going? Maybe I can help you
My tank is full, and I'd be obliged to take you

I'm a country boy, I've got a 4-wheel drive
Climb in my bed, I'll take you for a ride
Up city streets, down country roads
I can get you where you need to go
'cause I'm a country boy

You sure look good, sittin' in my right seat
Buckle up, I'll take you through the five speeds
Wind it up, or I can slow it way down
In the woods or right uptown
 
maximumcapsicum said:
Construction project is looking good HJeff! So do the maters. How far out from dirt day are we at this point?
 
May 20th is the earliest I will have them in the dirt.  First part of May I will start hardening them off.  
 
 
That oughta do it.
 
 
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Two raised bed 16 feet by 4 feet should hold me some peppers.  Plus another dozen around the front of my boat shop and the garden shouldn't feel too crowded any more.
 
Also going to slap together a raised herb bed.  I think it will be 8 feet by 4.  If I can squeeze in a third pepper bed, I will do it, but I don't think I have room unless I relocate my strawberry tractor tire raised bed.
 
Wow what a score! I think those will get you started ;)
 
I checked their site and here $1.47 per and no online sales only at the store. Still a good deal, headed to SA after work!
 
I was able to order mine online for instore pickup.  They should let you do that too.  Even at 1.47 you're saving over 2 bucks a timber.  Wish it was 99 cents all over.  I liked sharing the good news so pepper people can cash in before other not as important as raised bed people bought them all :)
 
Slight dilemma.  My south end of my boat shop is 24 feet wide.  My initial plan was to make the beds 16 feet long by 4 feet wide. This would be 5 timbers per layer and 15 for three high.  I can squeeze 3 of these in leaving ample room in between to mow. I was going to set them in 4 feet from either end of the shop.
 
Now, I could make them 24 feet long using 7 timbers for a layer, 21 overall.  Two beds would give me the same space as 3 of the shorter ones and use 3 less timbers.  
 
Now my question is, would the 24 feet long ones look too long?  If I make them 16 and want to make them longer, then I can't center them on the south wall or I would have to add 4 feet to each end to make them right later on.  
 
Would two 24 feet long look better than 3 16 feet long?  
 
In reality, I can put all three in 24 feet long if I wanted to, but I don't want to use up all my timbers and not have enough left over to make the raised herb bed and I don't want to make another trip for more timbers lol.

Devv said:
I just tried the same, I have 50 reserved for pickup. Thanks for the posting! I saved $2 per, and here in Devine they're $5. Woot!
 
 
Wow, I just saved you like 100 bucks.  You could mail me 25 bucks and STILL have saved 75 bucks :)  LOL

BTW the Gigantic Bounty paper towel pack is a good deal too!!!
 
 
Wow, I just saved you like 100 bucks.  You could mail me 25 bucks and STILL have saved 75 bucks :)  LOL
I like ya Jeff! But not that much ;)  LB said you just cost us 80 bucks..LOL
 
I would go with the 24's or whatever is functional for you.
 
Devv said:
I like ya Jeff! But not that much ;)  LB said you just cost us 80 bucks..LOL
 
I would go with the 24's or whatever is functional for you.
 
First thing I need to do is get some laid out with a level and some shims and see how much fill I am going to need to level things up.  Adding is a lot easier than having to shave some down and if I go 24 feet long I believe I will have some shaving to do.  I got until the end of May to get these down, but I am usually like a dog with a bone and won't let it go until I get them done....unless fishing picks up.
 
I will lay out 24 feet and see how it looks.  
 
HillBilly Jeff said:
Home Depot, landscape timbers on sale 99 cents each.  I just ordered 50 more online to pick up in store and will return the 15 I just bought and rebuy them for 99 cents each.
 
 
HillBilly Jeff said:
I was able to order mine online for instore pickup.  They should let you do that too.  Even at 1.47 you're saving over 2 bucks a timber.  Wish it was 99 cents all over.  I liked sharing the good news so pepper people can cash in before other not as important as raised bed people bought them all :)
Thanks for the heads up Jeff. That is an awesome deal. Just ordered 25 more to finish some projects I have going on near the raised beds. Only cost me $26 something including tax.
 
I'll pick them up Saturday afternoon since we are going to the camper tomorrow to dewinterize.
 
LOL. You're giving that little 1/2 ton a real workout there aren't you.
 
If you keep going like this, one of these days, you'll need a bigger truck.
 
Of course, then you'll need a bigger boat since you can pull more. :dance: See where I'm going with this. :D 
 
Jeff H said:
LOL. You're giving that little 1/2 ton a real workout there aren't you.
 
If you keep going like this, one of these days, you'll need a bigger truck.
 
Of course, then you'll need a bigger boat since you can pull more. :dance: See where I'm going with this. :D
 
 
I already have three trucks :)  This one I bought just to pull the boat for better gas mileage to and from Canada.  Exst cab makes it nice since I am long legged.  The GMC is a full size, but standard cab cramps me up a bit.  Then I have the brown work horse Chevy.  Got a leak in the radiator somewhere on it that needs fixing, but it has extra heavy duty springs on it.
 
At 4 feet wide, I am thinking I can put two rows of peppers in the bed.  Thoughts?  I also thought about one row down the middle of the raised beds and perhaps some onions or lettuce along the outside of the beds.  Of course I have to be careful in this location as there is no rabbit fence.  The piny squirrels will try to do a number on the strawberry patch I know for sure.  I can cure them of that pretty fast :)
On my 24 feet long raised beds I am thinking about building the beds and then shimming them up to level, then level the ground out with black dirt I am having hauled in.  I think it will be easier and look better raising the low spots than skimming off the high spots.
 
Well I just got back from Home Depot, got my 50 and 10 bags of garden soil for 2 bucks each. I really like less than half price, my half ton had a bit of squat to it..LOL
 
For the strawberries we use the full length screens that came with our exterior doors to cover them so the Squirrels don't eat the fruit. Our intention is to build a raised bed and go a little higher possibly 8 high and still be able to use the screens.
 
Now I see those bricks...I'm NOT going back to town..LOL save that for next year...
 
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