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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
So last night one of the group of us that's going seems to have developed either food poisoning or else have the flu, so we are back on hold. We were all together yesterday so if it is flu we don't want to be half way into the trip and get sick.

In an impatient moment I picked two of the upright growing hybrid seeds. From two different plants ( I have four).

The first pod tasted like green beans with less heat than a jalapeño. The second had a similar taste to a jalapeño - but slightly different - this pod was nearly heatless. Both pods were completely filled with placenta. Maybe a pinging ball sized gob of it in the smaller one. The larger one was equally full. I will upload the pictures and post them from my laptop

The pods were just starting to change color.
 
Well I am back!!

Things went well with Grad school, I think I'm going to be able to get in with no problems.

peppers are looking good too - have another harvest coming up soon I think (annuums).

C. Praeternissum is going like crazy despite it being neglected by my helper while I was out of town.

The graft is going well also... I am begining to think about taking the plastic, and twistie tie off.

The grated branch is nearly as tall as the host was when I did the graft, and the host has quintupled in size... It has some blooms on it (host) thinking about leaving them go for a time and seeing how it does.

Also the Scotch Bonnet is either not really a bonnet, or else has developed the growth pattern of the annuum its grafted too since its growing lie crazy (and like an annuum).

Pictures to follow :)
 
Well as you can imagine, MOST of the seeds I got from Amazon (Hinterlands) were NOT what they were advertized to be.

So far all of them have been jalapeno or Cayenne. Fortunately that was only 10 or 12 varieties. =(
 
I am growing a couple scotch bonnet annuums...didn't even know there was such a thing, but there is. Evidently nothing like the chinense variety. They are a mild which is about half the size of a Bell Pepper with the bonnet shape. I had one pod that just set, so I will take a pic once it drops its flower. I have 3 of the real deal going to, but they're only on their first set of true leaves...

Hope you like Jalapenos! Looking forward to some pics of the graft!

Shane
 
I have some seeds for that in the jiffy greenhouse, the little roundish ones are Thai Sun IIRC. They have an interesting growth habbit in that their stems lignify quickly. It is a very woody plant.

Hmm... I'll look up alma paprika... That could be interesting. It is QUITE mild. But its an interesting shape and growth habbit... I'll leave some on there until they are fully ripe, and then try one... Hopefully it has a bit more heat to it. but if not, i'll just make paprika out of it :)

Thanks for stopping by Bonnie!

Hum... Mild Scotch Bonnet... Not sure I'm too keen on that, but I'll give it a try. My scotch bonnet seeds came from Hinterlands as well :K I have some others from another source. I'll have to keep an eye on the both and compare once the other batch germinates :).

How is your second graft doing shane? I guess I need to get caught up on my GLOG reading. haha.
 
I gave up on them and put them outside and they fried...I have some seeds starting for the expressed purpose of grafts. So maybe round 2 will be the ticket!
 
Need to take a graft pick for you shane... But until I get around to taking one, here are a few pictures of the harvest and a spiffy pod.

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Ok top middle is Banana Peppers, left is cayenne, to the right is Jalapenos of a few varieties, and the bottom middle are Thai Sun.

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This is the same batch - unsorted.

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This one is particularly cool I think... It spirals around a few times, and then travels up the side of the pepper towards the top, doubles under the pedicel, and then comes out the other side!

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Same pepper but on the other side :).

I figure I picked about 7lbs of peppers... It will take me some time to smoke them all down... :D
 
I'm going to wait for my cayennes to redden on the plant from here on out. I had a small harvest a few weeks back, and they're starting to load up again for the next round. How many Cayennes plants do you have? I gave away all but 2 of mine. Wish I would have kept more now for filler/flavor in my super powders.

That is one cool pod! Do you know what caused it? Are the rest of the pods on that plant "normal"? If you that plant produces more than one that way, I would isolate some seeds!
Great stuff man, haven't been getting on here as much. Looks like you haven't either. Too much going on at work to be able to break away.

Take care brother!
Shane
 
I have a sauce that I make for the women of the familly... They cayennes are rather mild while green, so I use those for them.

In theory, I should have only had 5 Cayenne plants... Looks like I have more like 15. A number of other varieties that I purchased from Hinterlands on Amazon turned out to be not what I purchased. (surprise surprise). Fortunately I like cayennes and Jalapenos.

No clue what caused it... Its been growing in circles for a lonnggggggggg time now... The other pods on that plant (and those around it) were more or less straight (well as straight as cayennes usually grow). They all had the same soil, nutrients, amount of water, and more or less the same amount of sun. Perhaps it is a genetic thing?

I will go ahead and save a few seeds from it.

2 (1 sweet, 1 hot) Banana Pepper plant, about 20 Jalapenos, 15 Cayenne, 3 of the mystery hybrid, and 3 Thai Sun, and 5 (probably) orange Habs have identified themselves in my "little" garden of 65 plants. The rest don't have pods yet, or at least not ones that are big enough to look like anything in particular.

Yeah things have been busy - I was out of state (up to north carolina) for a few days, before that in quarentine because I had been exposed to swine flu, and prior to that I was sick (kidneys =( )...
Should be back to my usual amount of posting though.

Oh, one other thing to report in... While I was harvesting peppers, I noticed that there apparently was /some/ damage done by the high winds we had some time back. Most of the stalks of the pepper plants have little loops in them where it looked like they had been bent over flat, and then grown back up... All lignified (I think thats the right word for the stems becoming more and more wood-like) in that part of the plant...

Fortunately it doesn't look like any serious damage was done to them... But this is the cause of my plants tipping over under the weight of their fruit. I'm going to have to cut a bunch of Bamboo stakes and stake them all up I think.
 
No doubt!

One is still tipped over laying on the ground... I need to get that fixed up this afternoon... But we'll see. Perhaps tomorrow.

Ken
 
Sounds like things are rockin' in the sunbelt! Your harvests look great, man!
Hope you have a good weekend messin' with the peppers.
 
Did have! I called around and found out both my sister and mother have about a gallon of sauce already, so I smoked the peppers down (over cumquat wood) dehydrated them, then made a powder... I added a little bit of garlic to it, and some black pepper... smells like a bowl of chili haha.

I put some on my mashed potatos last night and it was fantastic - if not that spicy.

I need to encourage my superhots to put out pods :D then I can spice it up a bit. 7lbs of pepper made about 1/5th or so of a gallon of powder.

ALSO! I have pods on my graft - I'd take pictures but my phone was stolen =/ picking up another one this coming month. I'll get my digital out and take some pictures... the scion still hasn't produced an pods - and I don't have any pods coming from the union site - yet. However, its still early :)
 
Sweet harvest! Will you harvest all your cayennes green? Never have tried them green i dont think. Those Thai sun are some tiny little peppers! Are those the first harvest of that plant? Will they get any larger?
 
That is the first harvest this year, last year the largest (and I only had one pod that grew to this size) was about a half inch long by a quarter inch in diameter.

They are quite tasty... I find my self eating them while harvesting... one for me, one for the bag, and so forth haha.

Their growth habit is different as well... its branches are wood like twigs, rather than the soft herbaceous branches that we normally expect. Its branches are almost like those of a mature Habanero.

I harvested all the cayennes that I had at that time green. I will wait on the rest and get them red... I'm trying to slowly work on the women in my families tolerances haha.

feed them green powder now, then later, start mixing red in, and as the pickle jar of seasoning starts to run out, I'll begin adding smoked ripe Cayennes. later still, I'll toss in a few Habs. I don't know if I will push it with any super hots... but we shall see.

my explosive ember is laden with fruit... I need to take a picture :)
 
Nice pull of cayennes, I won't chirp the pickem red mantra.....hehe.
The snail or rams horn is kinda cool....I probably couldn't resist letting it turn red and pulling a few legs with my "Rams Horn Cayenne" hehe...but its from oneside growing faster than the other-the slow poke causes the curling.I always save seeds from the wierdos....but they all have ended up normal on the grow out, so they are probably just a dna anomaly.

You better hurry up and get going on your trip before you really get sick!Congrats on the grad school angle too :dance:
 
Thanks man :). Yeah depending on what I'm doing with them, I'll pick them red or green (or purple :P).

As it happened by the time someone had mentioned saving seeds, it had already been in the oven dehydrating over night ;) So I wasn't able to save any seed from it.

But its good to know that it wouldn't have grown out any way.

Also, how would you explain the end of the pepper growing back into the side of the pepper back up by the top, then crossing under the pedicel (the thing that holds the pepper to the plant), coming out the other side, and growing the other direction a little bit? was it just taking turns in allowing one side to grow faster than the other?

haha its too bad I didn't think of it... I might still post a thread in the hot pepper talk forum... :fireball:

Super Hot Rams Horn. I'll post that its a joke right at the end of the first post... Don't want people to think I'm one of those that sees a pod variation and make a new name haha.

Maybe I'll call it Jsschrstrcks Super Hot Rams Horn.

People will hate the name xD

Also I was able to go on my trip!! It was great!

Loved checking out the grad school!!

Thanks for the grats on that too btw :)
 
Well, I picked another handfull of Thai peppers!

Yet another super tiny one. I'll take a picture... Its certainly the smallest chili i've ever seen, or heard about.

Its about .3 mm if I had to guess... Much smaller than the head of a pencil. Smaller than a seed really. I'm tempted to try and plant it (or eat it).

Also pictures of the graft are being taken right now!! cutting the plastic stuff off!!!!!
 
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