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JCR glog - re-loaded.

This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Way to go jcr, now I don't feel bad for starting a
couple of more seeds and thinking about a few
more clones. Hope you are having fun moving
outside; nothing like nice weather!
 
I was reading your glog earlier, sounds like you had a rough day... haha to give away... I envision more frankenpeppers.

Thanks Paul! Yeah I'm enjoying it! Can't wait to hear about your cloning experiments. I might give it a go. But I don't have any plants I'm willing to experiment on just yet :). Maybe in a month or so.

The more seeds I start, the more I move away from peat pellets... The last 2 trays were in my mix, this batch is just in peat.

The galapagoense might take a while...

I hope not.

I have one more tray I think to start, and then I'm done with my personal garden :) I think. Unless something awesome comes down the pipe.

The garden center girl at home depot who was trying to sell me a heated jiffy green house (49.99, when they were 30 in november...) mentioned that there are 300 days to a veggie season in florida. Which at the time sounded high! But This year thats about right... the leaves started to fall off my plants in late december I guess. Planted out the stuff I started in oct in either Jan, or Feb... For the most part it was only cold in Jan, with one freeze around the 7th of Feb I'd guess.

I'm loving the weather right now though, mild temperatures not too hot, not too cold (though I do like it cool like this at night).

Allergies are killing me =( Might hide out indoors tomorrow as a result...
 
No news is good news right? Pods are growing... The sevin bomb I dropped seems to have killed off the bugs. Nothing new has germinated yet as of this morning. No new seeds (sad face). Begining to think my last BIG bag of seeds has been lost in the mail.

Decided to go out in the boat this morning :) later folks!
 
Well they are from someone reputable, and were a gift... So I'll likely just email him in a little bit. I'm not too worried... i just run out to the mailbox hoping they are there every day when the mail lady comes haha!

Graft is doing great, the baby true leaves have doubled in size. Stoked to see how they are doing. I'll put a picture up later!

Things were great on the boat - went out a couple of miles, swam for a bit, saw a bunch of stingray (was wishing I'd brought my spear... Stingray wing is great), a porpoise, and a school of about a thousand angel fish... Quite cool.

Came back by way of the Port, and had a beer + hot wings... Yup - definitely a good day to be in florida.

Thanks for stopping by Paul!
 
I feel your pain when it comes to grasshoppers. We get them in Biblical proportions here some years! Here is what I use to control them:

http://www.planetnat...opper-bait.html

It is rated for organic use. The only thing is it only works on the nymphs, so it has to be applied early in the season. It takes care of the population on our property. The problem I have here is that there are empty lots and open fields surrounding our property, so once the vegetation there dries out mid-summer, our place becomes an oasis in the desert for them. At that point, they are full sized, and it would take some pretty nasty chemicals to put a dent in the population. That's when I deploy the flip flop defense. Or if I happen to be deadheading flowers, I take great pleasure in cutting them in half with my snippers. Yeah, grasshoppers bring out my evil side ...
 
So far I haven't seen any more, which means that hopefully there were only a few hatchings of them this year... I've been checking morning and night for new clutches (or whatever they are called). I considered napalm... I'm told its quite easy to make... Let the grass grow back next year :D

I'll book mark that page, and if I have a re-sourgence next year, I'll be applying it to my yard, my neighbors yards, and the woods across the street... Infect as many of the little creeps as I can.

If you look up eastern lubers, you'll find its not uncommon for roads to be closed due to slicks created by these things migrating across. We haven't had them that badly here in my area for a long time... But I remember this one year they were terrible (that and frogs...). To the point where you couldn't go outside without walking on either a frog or a grasshopper.... With each step...

Deadheading flowers reminds me I want to look up how to propogate Roses from seed... I have this rose vine that is about 5 inches in diameter... Its about 27' tall... Its grown that tall just in the past 12 months... We didn't cut it back this year. It should be interesting.

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It has scores of these particularly beautiful yellow flowers... If you don't pick them while they are opening, they will be wilted within a few hours... But the ones you pick, bring indoors, and put in a vase stay nice for as long as a normal rose.

Thats a golf club behind the bush... It was the only thing available for a size comparison... I'll measure it if anyone is particularly interested.
 
That thing is a rose?!? W O W. Your first year from seed with the peppers. I'm am just amazed at your ambition and progress. Good stuff man. Good stuff.
 
Thanks Seth! I found my self with a lot of time on my hands :D

Pretty stoked to see how things are going this year... Next year I'm going to have the seeds to be able to start the superhots early... I might well be at grad school... but I can still grow a few in my dorm/apartment balcony or whatever.

Yeah its a massive rose vine... Largest I've ever seen. I think it may be crossed with Kudzu (lol). Thing just grows and grows and grows... It died off year before last - and was massive then too, but not this big. So we cut it off at the ground, and last year it exploded with more vigor than usual (which is saying a lot). You can see the results... its easily 4x larger in diameter than it was two years ago at its previous peak.

Cuttings seem pretty easy... Going to try to take a few. See how it goes. Seeds for it are in the fridge as we speak, in addition to a few in the ground...

Your grow is looking nice this year as well!

I never ever thought I'd find my self in a position where a chainsaw was needed to prune a rose...
 
Would love to figure out exactly what type it is...snap a few pics of the flower if you could. I used to have roses years ago, a little too much of an investment for me to go into living in a rental property. Once I get out I plan on having a nice rose garden. That is where grafting is really the way to go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq2SEOeAf8Y
 
WOW!!! That thing is unbelievable!

At our last house there was a ginormous shrub rose, and it was extremely thorny. I had little ones at the time, and wanted to replace it. It took me a whole day to chop that thing down, and dig out the roots, They were as thick as tree roots! We ended up moved a couple months later. :banghead:
 
Looks like losing the one coty to the pest hasn't slowed down the scion on this graft :D leaves are growing fast now.

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Hardening these off... Full sun for the first time today... So far so good.
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Three of my grafts... Unknown Annum(long thin cayenne, big early jalapeno most likely) x Scotch Bonnet is the one in the gallon jug. The other two are from the "oh my aching back" seed mix, and are likely annuums, but the possibility exists that their is the odd chinense in the mix. They have been tied together since they were just little cotyledons... Hoping their growth is a good sign. I have a couple more that I didn't take pictures of yet. They are still in the foam coffee cups, these were potted up a few days ago (quite carefully).
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This is marked as a Pablano... But I don't think the leaves are right... Any ideas? It was from a pepper that came from the store. Three of the seeds from the green pod germinated, and this was the result from all three.
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Looks like cilantro??? Pretty sure that its not a pepper. Any chance there were some other seeds in the soil that sprouted?
 
Cilantro is unlikely, I have a single cup of Coriander (cilantro) growing, and its marked coriander... I suppose a seed could have accidentally ended up in one of the other cups, but three seems a stretch? Anything is possible I suppose.

The leaves are slightly different between the coriander that I planted, and this whatever it is :). I guess I'll wait till it grows out a bit and pull a leaf off, see how it smells and tastes.

Oh! one of my 7pot's and a Douglah x Butch T have popped up.

Found some lady bugs on my peppers today, happy to see that, even if I haven't seen any aphids yet (though now I'm tempted to use my camera as a magnifying glass and see what there is to see).

Update (3/17 4:45pm) on the last seed order. As it turns out, I'm the chief idiot. I was cleaning off my desk and found the list of seeds that was supposed to go with the envelope to the vendor. IF I ever sent the envelope (something I am doubting at present) I never sent the list of what I wanted, which could explain the confusion...

All my annuums and chinense that were started back in October are loaded down with fruit... the Cayenne that I've been showing you will need staked up tomorrow... its slowing falling over because of the weight of the chilies :D

My C. Praeternissum has sprouted! No hook yet, but the seed has a root thats broken out... Just a matter of time now I think...
 
Got confirmation that those are coriander... Despite what the label says... My helper tossed a few seeds in some cups to "help"... Atleast we know what they are!! Going to start a bunch, and plant them around the perimeter.

Also, there is a 20% chance I'll need to go to the hospital to have this kidney stone of mine dealt with...

Hopefully not.
 
Got confirmation that those are coriander... Despite what the label says... My helper tossed a few seeds in some cups to "help"... Atleast we know what they are!! Going to start a bunch, and plant them around the perimeter.

Also, there is a 20% chance I'll need to go to the hospital to have this kidney stone of mine dealt with...

Hopefully not.
Sometimes I wish there was a dislike button! Hope you feel better soon! I know that kidney stones are terribly painful to deal with.

At least you have some extra cilantro!!!
 
I agree were is that damn dislike button.... Sorry bout the stones... but the plants sure are looking good! The grafts are looking great! They must be strong is they could already come back from a bit of pest damage! Little extra cilantro just means more fresh salsa :)
 
Well good news, so far I think I'll be able to stay out of the hospital.

Better news! 8 chocolate bhuts came up that I'd given up on earlier in the season.

Bad news, they were only watered because the roof in my garage has started to leak.

I also had 8 more come up in the super hot tray (well all super-hots and Bolivian rainbow). half were the douglah (which IIRC means mixed) cross.

Came out to most of my plants being desperately thirsty, and turned the water on, then promptly fell asleep in a lounge chair I'd brought out with me so I wouldn't walk away and forget the water on... They got a thorough soaking... Is what it is I guess at this point.

The little ones I was hardening off are doing fantastic. I had to bring a work bench out of the garage to put the rest of the seedlings that needed hardened off on. Plus the 20 or so that are still in the garage window.
 
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