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This is late in coming, and I don't have pictures for everything... So bear with me.

Iive in zone 9b, and we had quite a mild winter, so I started germinating seeds indoors in october. I have a desk with a hutch and a built in Flourescent light... I also have a surround sound system with rather tall speakers that leave about 5 inches between the light in the hutch and my jiffy green house. I started 10 Orange Habs, 10 Long Thin Cayenne, 10 Thai Sun, and 10 Big Early Jalapenos, the seed was not isolated and was collected off my plants from last year. The cayenne was a sad plant, and only produced 3 or 4 pods all summer... The Habanero beside it produced enough to make gallons of puree'd Habs that I love to eat by the spoon full. The Jalapeno likewise produced pound upon pound of pods. I selected the biggest pods from each and saved the seed.

All 40 seeds came up, and this being the first year I've grown peppers out from seed, I was unprepared with something to transplant them into. I called up a few friends and had them save 2 ltr bottles, milk jugs, orange juice containers (plastic and sealed cardboard) and any other container in that size that they would be willing to spare. I also went to biglots and bought a ton of styrofoam cups at 51 cups for 1$. By the time they were ready for transplant I had aquired about 100 assorted bottles in the 2ltr and half gallon to 1 gallon range. So I ordered more seeds from amazon (yeah yeah I know... I ordered from Hinterlands, and it remains to be seen if they grow true or not), PepperJoe, regal seeds (free from posting links on facebook) and picked up some burpee bell peppers. My mother came over to visit one day, and I was re-potting my seedlings... Up till this point I had been using a map to know which seedling was which. Mom offered to help, and within just a few minutes I no longer knew which was which... All I know for sure, is that they are either Jalapenos, Cayenne, or Habaneros.

Feeling pretty confident, I picked up a couple of 72 cell jiffy green houses, and loaded them up with seeds. I had fantastic luck with the Trinidad Scorpions, and Bhut Jolokias (red) but terrible luck with the Chocolate Habs, 7pot, and a few others. I contacted the vendor, and was promptly re-shipped a new batch of seed with a BUNCH of bonus seed. That was about the time I discovered Garden Web, and began trading seeds. This too brought up my variety count.

Currently I have 48/50 varieties germinated at about an 70% success rate (including the bad seed from the one vendor, which for giggles is still in the jiffy green house on the speaker under the flourescent tube). Currently I have 141 plants in the ground, and another 50 or 60 in re-used foam cups.

Then I discovered Amishland seeds (or something like that, I forget the name) but they have an Oh My Aching Back pepper mix for 2.50$, could have as many as 20 amish varieties all with cool stories behind them... That sounded reasonable, so I ordered the 50 seed pack and recieved almost 150 seeds. Those are currently germinating on top of a speaker beneath the flourescent light.

About that time I discovered I had an advantage when it came to hybridization... Living here in sunny florida, I can get two, and possibly even three seasons in each year (it froze 3 nights in total last winter)... Which meant a long multi-year process would take much less time... So I started doing research into hybridization. I decided to cross my Habanero with my Thai Sun hoping for a couple of specific traits to pop up. These seeds are currently germinating along with some of the others. I then learned of making graft hybrids. My first attempt (of four thus far) was to graft a Trinidad Scorpion (scion) onto my orange Hab (host). Following the protocals of the mentor graft method (but lacking grafting tape) I used packaging tape turned inside out (so the sticky parts only touched the tape, not the plants). I did not yet know the full difficulty that one has when grafting pepper plants. This first graft failed. The second graft failed. But my third graft (approach grafted a scotch Bonnet onto an orange Hab - used these because I have the most of them, and if they failed, I had lots of seed/seedlings to replace them with) seemed to be successfull. the scion had begun growing a new leaf, and the host had put out blooms (which I snipped). However I left the project too low to the ground (apparently) and my neighbors Dog mangled it badly... It might or might not survive, however after discovering this, I approach grafted a Scotch Bonnet onto an unknown Annum - likely a Cayenne. The second graft is doing well - but it remains to be seen if it will take. It has only been two days thus far.

I had two Chile de Arbols come up today, which is faster than any of the amish (or my hybrid) seeds germinated. I started this last batch in a combination of peat pellets, and the starter trays that require soil on the 25th of Feb. I currently have expanded my varieties to nearly 100, and am expecting to plant about 400 before I finish.

I live in an area that is extremely high in lime. IE you can't dig without pulling up huge lime rocks, or hitting even larger lime stone beds. With that in mind I needed to work to bring my PH down. I picked up a bale of peat moss (low ph), coffee grounds (un used), hard wood ash (burned oak to get this), Black Cow, Egg Shells, and my sister found a 3cu bale of perlite in the garage of the house she purchased... She had no use for it, so I put a good bit of this in as well (after tilling the rest Together, I ran the hoe the length of where I would be planting, and placed a little of the stuff across the bottom of the hoe'd row, then pushed the dirt back over.... for each 10x20 garden, I mixed in 1 cu ft of Peat, 12 40lb bags of composted black cow, about 1/8th inch covering of oak tree ashes, 1lb of coffee (sprinkled everywhere), and of course the perlite rows. My PH meter says that the soil is now 6.8, and I am hoping it holds. I suspect the egg shells aren't needed in light of all the lime in the soil... But I save and use them any way.

I did have one frost AFTER I had planted about 65 plants... I really didn't have anything to protect them with, so I cut down a few pieces of Bamboo and made a bivouac with a sheet of painters drop cloth (the edges held down by rocks). It worked out pretty well, except the wind blew a section of the middle back and exposted 3 plants to the elements. all but one look like they will make it. Here is the bivouac:
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. Finally I noticed that I have pods on one of the plants that I started back in October. It is nearly twice as big as anything around it. I think it could be a hybrid because of its speed of growth, however, I'm told that cayennes are just a particularly quick growing variety. I took the rest of these pictures on my iPhone, so please excuse the depth of field... Any way, here is my first Pod - I saw it on the 25th of Feb.
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See the size difference between this plant, and the plants around it?

The pod is probably 10x larger now, nearly the diameter of my pinky. and around 4 inches long.

*UPDATE 3/8 updated grow list*

Grow LIst:

C. Chinense
Aji Limo Rojo
Paper Lantern
Billy Goat (habanero type)
Bahamanian Goat
Dominican Red Habanero
Peruvian White Habanero
PI 260595 (Chinense)
Mayan Red
Habanero de Arbol
7pot BrainStrain
7pot White
7pot Red
NMSU Bhut Jalokia
Yellow Fatalii
7pot Primo
Yellow Bhut Jolokia
Orange Hab
Tazmanian Hab
Datil
White Hab
Bhut Jolokia / Naga Morrich
Trinidad Scorpion Butch T
Trinidad Scorpion
Jamaican Chocolate Hab
Red Savina
Scotch Bonnet
7pot Douglah
T.S. Moruga Blend (brain strain?)
Trinidad Perfume
Chocolate Bhut Jolokia
Dorset Naga
Hinkelhatz (red)
Hot Lemon Hab
Red Congo Trinidad
Red Savina

C.Annum
sonoran Chiltepin (hand picked in Mexico)
Habanero de arbol
japones
Hawaiian sweet hot (possibly Wailua)
Pulla Pepper (bolivia or Brazil)
Sunset (F1 hybrid)
Cascabel Chili (rattle, mirasol, bola, Ball. From Mexico)
Thai Super Hot (hybrid F1)
Florida Wild Bird
Numex Lumbre - 1-5k scu
Giant Sweet (bell?)
Numex Big Jim Legacy
Sandia A -Anaheim Type
Santa fe grande - usa
Ciliegia Piccante (Baccio di Satana aka Satans Kiss) - Italy
Chilhuacle Rojo (Chilguacle) Pablano type - Mexico
Black Scorpion Tounge
Peter
Wild Texas (Tomato? from the swap)
Fresno
Serrano
Cosa Arrugada
Big Dipper (bell)
Big early Jalapenos,
Long Red Thin Cayenne
Thai Sun
Chimaya
Pretty in Purple
Black Pearl
Purple Glow in the Dark (possibly the same as black pearl)
Yatzy aka Yatsufusa
Chili de Arbol
Anaheim
Cubanelle
Firecracker Piquin
Peppermania's Big Ass Cayenne AKA Pepper Joe’s Cayenne
Golden Cayenne
Orange Cayenne
Mulato Isleno
Punjabi (Cayenne type I think)
Hot Banana Pepper
Sweet Banana Pepper
Big Bertha
Super Heavy Weight
Bangalore Whippets Tail
Las Cruces
Filius Blue
WM Brand Chili Peppers
WM Brand Mammoth Jalapeno
Pimiento Pepper
Chiltepin
Hot Cow Horn
Pablano
var. glabriusculum
Texas Chiltepin

C. Fructescense
Tabasco
Kung Pao
Pimiento de Padron
Thai Long
Wild Grove
Guam Boonie (guam)
zimbabwe Birds Eye Chili

C. Baccatum
Aji Yellow (Peruvian)
Bolivian Wild (TALL)
Inca Red Drop (peru)
Aji Lemon Drop (aka Kellu Uchu - Long Season. Origin: Peru)
Birgits Locoto (Bolivia)

C. Galapagoense

C. Chacoense
Unknown Cultivar

C. praetermissum
Cumari Pollux


Confirmed Hybrids
Thai Sun x Orange Habanero F1
Orange Hab x Scotch Bonnet F1
7pot Douglah x Butch T Scorpion F2
Thai Super Hot F1 (parents unknown - seed swap)
Sunset F1 hybrid (Parents unknown - Seed swap)

**After the 3/8 update I now have 108 varieties**

The list is bound to grow! I have a number of varieties on their way that are not yet listed (but I will update the post as they arrive).

Also non-pepper plants I have green beans, canteloup, coriander, watermellon, summer squash, kale, lettuce, eggplant, and tomatos.

Edit: Changed tags, updated growlist 3-8
 
Man, you got nowhere to go but up! Hope you can resolve the KS issue.
You can feel good that your plants look so great. The grafts are just too
cool. When you twist the young ones together, do you scrape the stems?
The graft in the first picture looks really good. Can't imagine it's not a go!
You and Shane are becoming the Gurus of Graft! Really fun to watch the
grafts take hold!

Okay, jcr, have a good week; hope it's all good news!

Sorry, Shane, took your spot at the top of a new page! Yahaha :D
 
Thanks for the support guys.


Praying I'll be back to normal soon.

Ken

Oh lest I forget - yes I did scrape the seedlings that I tied together... gently though, not as deeply as maybe I should have... But I wanted to put them out in the weather, and figured they'd have a better chance of survival if they were only moderately weakened by my knife.

I use an exacto knife... It works pretty well, I have better control over it than one might with a bulkier blade.
 
Thanks brother!

I am hoping to be over this tomorrow... Or at least up and around again. IF so I'm going to expose the roots of the scion, and see how the little guy does. The host is just exploding with new growth.

Its looking good.

Pictures tomorrow!
 
Feeling better and better!

I decided to cut the umbilical today on my graft.likely I have killed it... Bt we shall see. I gave the leaves a lite misting of water, and then broke out the exacto knife. A few seconds later the deed was done. I have pictures but my Internet is down and I have to post this for my iDevice.... I will have to post the pictures later.

I have a cayenne pepper pod nearly as big as my hand... Things enormous.

Lastly I had about 8 more hatchings of lubbers today.... My 3 1/2 year old nephew was over and had just finished watching the movie any bully... I tried my best to get him to squish grasshoppers with me but he said "I am sorry uncle Kenny but that wouldn't be good for me"...
 
OK... Here is a shot taken pre-segregation.
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Looking happy and healthy. All things considered, pretty nice.

Then I pinched the stem off.
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Here is what it looks like currently +36 hours... No misting or anything involved... Simply left on its own, in the relative darkness of my dining room (~73 Degrees F) which has a north facing window, with a large porch + roof over it... Probably got most of its light from the short periods of time the dining room light is on (not much... its a room less used).
Apologies in advance for the blurry picture... Taking pictures with my iphone again.
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This is what my seedlings looked like after nearly a week of neglect =(
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Lastly for those interested in my rose bush:
Here is a bud:
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The flower:
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Spent Flower:
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Anyone know what variety?
 
Looking good on the graft...but your poor little seedlings don't look happy at all. :( Post a recovery pic on those guys soon! Don't know that rose???
 
yeah. I bought it as a yellow climbing vine... It doesn't really climb, or vine, nor bush... mostly just tries to reach the sun... it might succeed.

Thats the one I took a picture of with a golf club in the background, and the trunk was nearly the size of the head of the club... I think that was my GLog that I posted that in...
 
All 3 grafts are looking a little upset with me this morning...back in the dark they went. lol Obviously its going to be a waiting game. The light must be trying to promote more growth and the grafts aren't quite able to pull enough from the host to support yet. Every time I give them light the coty's are curled the following morning, so got me thinking that they're pulling from the coty's to try to support the growth the light is promoting....only problem is the little bhut dropped its cotys before I cut it loose. Still too early to call it...
 
Well lots of good news today!

Graft is looking awesome! Hope the youngins make a turn around! And stop the seedling neglect!
haha, I would love to! I've just been so sick =( Still not feeling my self. Stone turned into Kidney infection, which hasn't cleared up... Quite an uncomfortable process... It takes the wind out of my sails going outside in this humidity and heat... Bad excuses all, but I digress.

looks a lot like this one labeled simply "yellow climbing rose"

It has a really pretty bloom. I think its ugly once the flower is spent though... If you pick them before they get to the ugly phase, they stay pretty inside for days. Also I know nothing about training. If its something that requires work, I've not tried anything... it never actually tried to climb anything, just grew like mad for the sun.

All 3 grafts are looking a little upset with me this morning...back in the dark they went. lol Obviously its going to be a waiting game. The light must be trying to promote more growth and the grafts aren't quite able to pull enough from the host to support yet. Every time I give them light the coty's are curled the following morning, so got me thinking that they're pulling from the coty's to try to support the growth the light is promoting....only problem is the little bhut dropped its cotys before I cut it loose. Still too early to call it...

Welllllll by the age of your host plant, they have all lost their coty's. So its natural for them to fall off... Just need to make sure there are some true leaves first I should think, and then let them fall :).

Going to give mine an hour of sunlight this afternoon if I feel like being outside that long =(.

Also my C. Praeternissum is up!!!!
had 1 white 7pot, and 2 zimbabwe Birds come up as well.

All the wilted plants are looking good, except those that were pulled out of the foam cups by the rain and left to dry out, roots exposed on the side of the cup... Considered taking pictures of this, except I didn't want to scar the pepper community with the ugliness of the scene... Only lost a few that way though (4), and 3 to the drought. Considering I have ~150 or so that are hardening (hardened by now but that I can't plant) off, losing 7 is ~4%?

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Also saw this in my garage (Where some of my plants are growing. Is it a concern?
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Hey jcr! Your graft looks great even with the fuzzy pix! I'm 'rooting' for it to take hold and take off!
Looks like your seedlings on the carousel stand are coming back okay. You've got a lot goin' on
here, man! Keep up the good work and good luck with Spring coming fast! Sorry can't help with
bug i.d. Some kind of moth?
 
Thanks brother. Its still looking more or less the same with a little bit of new growth... thing has exploded with growth since I cut the stem... So happy with the result!

Also I took second place in PepperJoe's contest for suggestions regarding the new (possibly) hottest pepper in the world... My suggestion was Vesuvius, and I won 13 packets of pepper seed, 8 packets of tomato, 2 ghost peppers and a number of herbs and spices :D
My iphone focuses on the weirdest things.... But I digress.

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Thinking of changing the thread name to "Some people call me the graft guru". haha bonus points if you catch the song reference :)
 
..and I'm a midnight :high:

Kidney stones .....that sucks. Good to hear they are ..on the way out :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ....sorry, couldn't help it-hope ya get better quick, you have some seedlings to save!
 
Seedlings are looking pretty good, got them in out of the weather tonight (rain forecast for the weekend).

I'm not a :high: . But I do like the song :).
Pretty happy about the seeds my self Paul! There is a little bit of overlap - 2 or 3 of the baggies are the same jalapeno, and there is the obligatory orange hab seed packet... But all in all its a fantastic prize. I'm really happy about the tomatos... I have I think a dozen tomato plants at present. My mother has been hounding me to grow more tomatos so that she can can them (for her and dad). I put in a few (and only the seeds she provided), but my main thrust is peppers. Her Birthday party is tomorrow, so I'll tell her the good news then...

haha I'm glad they are on their way out too gnslngr! Actually they have been evicted... Just cleaning up their mess now (infection).

Both are horrible things to experience... IF never drinking another soda as long as I live will prevent this from happening again, I am willing to make the sacrifice. That was what the Dr atributed the stones too - too much soda (sugar) not enough water, and too much time in the sun. Kept me a little dehydrated, made my kidneys work over time, and then not enough water to remove the byproduct of filtering my blood (Stones). At their most swollen my right kidney put my second from the bottom rib out of place... That still hurts as well. But not anything like the kidney pain... Its a welcome relief.

Anyway, enough about my health... On to happier subjects... Like having about 30 cayennes to harvest in the next week or so... I was out there today, and noticed that they are starting to turn colors! If there is a break in the weather tomorrow, I'll get some pictures :)

Thanks Paul!
 
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